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« Reply #460 on: October 28, 2019, 10:20:32 AM »
I found this out myself by going through the archives of my local hospital. My active B12 has been tested numeral times by different specialist and always turned up elevated. They didn't tell me. My liver flares up now and then yes. I one time had an intense acute flare up that spiraled out of control. I did take an oral hydrogen peroxide solution because this had helped me with other things before and to my surprise this made me better on the same day, this was basically desperation mode the pain was that bad.

Doctors don't seem to care digging further into this matter. Hospitals have turned into production centers over the years, quantity over quality.
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« Reply #461 on: October 30, 2019, 06:23:29 PM »
You are from India, right aswinpras06? Have you considered contacting Geetha Desai?

MEDICALLY UNEXPLAINED SYMPTOMS EXPLAINED!!!! A CASE OF POST ORGASMIC ILLNESS SYNDROME
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« Reply #462 on: October 31, 2019, 04:14:40 AM »
You are from India, right aswinpras06? Have you considered contacting Geetha Desai?

MEDICALLY UNEXPLAINED SYMPTOMS EXPLAINED!!!! A CASE OF POST ORGASMIC ILLNESS SYNDROME

Thanks Muon.  I am hearing about a doctor in India knowing about POIS for the first time.  will try to contact her if possible, as she is in another city from where I live.  It requires some planning and arrangement.  If I get any useful info from her it will be great for us.  Will post once I meet her.

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« Reply #463 on: November 27, 2019, 03:56:55 PM »
Does anyone else think that !!!! in a presumably scientific/medical paper headline can be considered suspect? Or is this a cultural deviation? A typo? I think it’s the same exclamatory-language emphasis that we see in suspicious, e.g., quackery-based, advertising.
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #464 on: November 30, 2019, 02:47:39 PM »
Human mast cell activation with virus-associated stimuli leads to the selective chemotaxis of natural killer cells by a CXCL8-dependent mechanism

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2545.0

Does the IFN-g indicate a viral infection? Does the elevated 11b-PGF2-a indicate some mast cell activity? Are the low NK cells and elevated IL-8 due to selective chemotaxis of NK cells by an IL-8 dependent mechanism?

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« Reply #465 on: December 08, 2019, 02:05:48 PM »
From The relationship between serum sex steroid levels and heart rate variability parameters in males and the effect of age:

In conclusion, serum sex steroids may have important effects on cardiac autonomic function in addition to their effects on reproductive function. While physiological levels of androgens were positively related with parasympathetic activity, estrogens were positively related with sympathetic activity in men. In contrast, decreased androgen levels in aging males have controversial effects on autonomic function. However, adrenal androgens seem to be more important for cardiac autonomic control. Further large-scale studies may shed light on the effect of adrenal androgens on autonomic functions.

From Gender, sex hormones and autonomic nervous control of the cardiovascular system:

Experimental data indicates the presence of receptors for gonadal hormones in the CNS, including in regions relevant for the functioning of the autonomic nervous system. Central administration of oestrogen enhances parasympathetic activity. In addition, there is evidence that testosterone enhances NA and NPY synthesis as well as reducing activity of NA clearance. Conversely, oestrogen enhances the activity of choline uptake and acetycholine synthesis. Studies with peripheral tissues also indicate that oestrogen is associated with increased synthesis and release of acetylcholine. All these observations are consistent with the previously discussed observations that, in general, parasympathetic responsiveness is greater in females and sympathetic responsiveness greater in males. Recent developments indicate that oestrogen may also modulate nerve density and survival via effects on nerve growth factor. In addition, the anti-apoptopic effects of oestrogen may explain why age related decline in autonomic activity is more evident in males than females.

Go to the supplementary data eTable1: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2050116118300199

Estradiol which is high, is positively related to sympathetic activity. Testosterone is low, which is positively related to parasympathetic activity. The net effect is sympathetic dominance/overactivity. This data could indicate that the patient's ANS balance is disturbed towards a sympathetic state.

The prevalence of (lifelong) premature ejaculation in poisers could indicate a sympathetic overactive ANS:
Autonomic nervous system dysfunction in lifelong premature ejaculation: analysis of heart rate variability

The argumentation above does not apply to females and could therefore explain the prevalence of POIS in males compared to females.

Some poisers are mentioning that their POIS symptoms are less intense at an old age compared to when they were younger. Autonomic activity of males seem to decline with age.

Chronic SNS activity could alter immune homeostasis and affect GI inflammation/blood supply/motility leading to altered microbiome/leaky gut/IBD. Neural regulation of gastrointestinal inflammation: Role of the sympathetic nervous system

Ejaculation could activate the SNS even further and induce low grade neuroinflammation by releasing peptides like Neuropeptide Y which could be responsible for burning sensations: Neuropeptide Y: a new mediator linking sympathetic nerves, blood vessels and immune system?

The neuroinflammation could demyelinate nerves in the urinary tract sensitizing them to neuropeptides in seminal fluid leading to a myriad of new symptoms. Perhaps SNS activity over a long term could prime mast cells to be more reponsive to elements from seminal fluid as well.

''Conclusion: An unfavourable shift in the cardiac autonomic tone in men with lower testosterone levels was observed in response to a stressor. Understanding the role of sex hormones in modulation of cardiac autonomic tone may help guide risk reduction strategies in men.''
Testosterone is associated with the cardiovascular autonomic response to a stressor in healthy men

Sympathetic activity should be measured in poisers and needs to be objectified. Once that is established we can go from there on forward step by step.
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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #466 on: December 11, 2019, 06:52:56 PM »
My brother: Elevated IL-8, Elevated Lp-PLA2 activity
Me: IL-8 which doesn't seem to respond to POIS and is always high as in chronic.

Lp-PLA2 activity and Ox-LDL could activate mast cells ---> IL-8
Is IL-8 a sign of artherosclerosis/microvascular dysfunction/mast cell activity?

Mast Cell Activation by Lipoproteins

Mast cells in vulnerable atherosclerotic plaques ? a view to a kill

Relationship of lipoprotein-associated phospholipase A2 and oxidized low density lipoprotein in carotid atherosclerosis

Oxidized Phospholipids, Lipoprotein(a), Lipoprotein-Associated Phospholipase A2 Activity, and 10-Year Cardiovascular Outcomes

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #467 on: December 11, 2019, 07:25:16 PM »
I got a vaccin to see if I have enough antibodies against Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus). The immunologist said that could be the reason why I have a lot sinititis. I also did a test for hiv, IgM, IgG (1, 2, 3 and 4) and IgA.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #468 on: December 14, 2019, 11:12:02 AM »
Hiv came out negative, so that’s good. IgM was a bit low (like before). For Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus) I will get another blood test to compare it to the previous test.
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POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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« Reply #469 on: December 14, 2019, 11:34:40 AM »
HIV...I could tell you right away that was going to be negative. Why are these doctors stuck in the same testing algorithms? This isn't going anywhere. What is the next doctor going to do test IgA again? I've got some abnormal parameters which you can check out why don't they do that? Testing the same stuff which turned out negative over and over again.

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #470 on: December 14, 2019, 05:36:50 PM »
Before spending money on medical test, it may be wise to review the following page:
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2695.msg24788#msg24788

A good POIS test in my opinion is to repeat the lymphocyte/orgasm test from P. Haake, et al. (2004):
"the orgasm induced a moderate but statistically significant transient elevation of the cytotoxic/suppressor T cell (CD3+CD8+) numbers (Fig. 2). In contrast, the absolute numbers of T cells (CD3+), T helper cells (CD3+CD4+), and B cells (CD3-CD20+) were not affected by sexual stimulation...the levels of LPS-induced proinflammatory cytokines (IL-6, TNF-alpha) remained unaffected by masturbation-induced orgasm...The effects of orgasm on peripheral lymphocyte subsets were restricted to NK cells and had minor or no effects on T or B cell subsets and showed no effects on (IL-6, TNF-alpha) cytokine production, indicating limited and selective effects of orgasm on immune system functions in parallel with its selective and short-lived neuroendocrine effects." -Effects of Sexual Arousal on Lymphocyte Subset Circulation and Cytokine Production in Man (P Haake, U Hartmann, et al., 2004)

Another good test is to measure blood urea levels outside of POIS (immediately before sexual activity) and then again about 10min after orgasm. Try not to urinate between the two test.
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« Reply #471 on: December 19, 2019, 12:00:51 PM »
It may be possible that one of these Interleukins could have dropped into normal range after orgasm just like TNF-alpha did:

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2684.msg32284#msg32284

Suggestions: Check IL-6, VEGF, IL-33 and Substance P out of POIS.

Scroll all the way down to Table 4. Triggers of Mast Cells Without Degranulation:
Recent advances in our understanding of mast cell activation - or should it be mast cell mediator disorders?
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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #472 on: February 05, 2020, 07:28:37 PM »
Hiv came out negative, so that’s good. IgM was a bit low (like before). For Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus) I will get another blood test to compare it to the previous test.
Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus) was the same before and after I got a vaccin. I do not know what that means? Should it go up because of the vaccin? I have to wait a few weeks before I see the immunologist.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.


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« Reply #474 on: February 07, 2020, 01:56:52 PM »

The patient tested negative for HIV.
Table 1 shows an immune deficiency of natural killer (NK) cells and B cells. Also there is an over expression of CD56- NK cell subclass, showing impairment of the innate immune response. The overexpression of monocytes relative to the healthy controls show increased adaptive immune activity.
"When a detailed evaluation of the effector cells involved in the immune response was performed, a monocyte increase and an NK cell decrease were observed in the patient with POIS in comparison to the controls, with a reduction in total B cells and normal T cells count. Some studies have shown a decrease of NK cell percentage in association with a reduction of activity of these cells in peripheral blood of patients with depression. Other mental disorders such as mental stress, autism and obsessive-compulsive disorder have also been reported to present lower NK cell activity."
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"To investigate potential drivers of the mild monocytosis frequently seen in MCAS [25]...":

Table 5. Common abnormalities in routine hematologic and serum chemistry tests found in the study population:

"WBCs: Monocytosis (relative or absolute)   44%"

Characterization of Mast Cell Activation Syndrome

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From Post-orgasmic illness syndrome: a case report (AM Attia, 2016)

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From same link:  "  ↑ ALT      38%,   ↑ AST   40%"
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Compare Aswinpras06's results closely with Table 5. Much overlap. Coincidence?
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« Reply #475 on: February 07, 2020, 02:14:05 PM »
This is my Urine test showing elevated mucus levels: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1voKz6VVCs0umbO-G9ShNOGP5Qu9JTkn5
I usually get Urethritis after ejaculation.

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« Reply #477 on: February 08, 2020, 04:23:25 PM »
My brother's hematologic abnormalities. Quite mild and always ignored. Compare to table 5 again.

Also my ALAT levels were elevated multiple times, I believe ASAT has found to be elevated once.

My aunt got persistent leukocytosis.

What you can do is creating a matrix where the first row represents +200 mast cell mediators. The first column your hematologic/chemical abnormalities. And find out whether mediator X can drive abnormality Y up or down. With sufficient hits in a single column you could theoretically pinpoint a potential mediator(s) that is causing havoc.
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« Reply #478 on: February 09, 2020, 10:28:53 AM »
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2684.msg32993#msg32993

"Human beta-defensin 2 is produced by a number of epithelial cells and exhibits potent antimicrobial activity against Gram-negative bacteria and Candida, but not Gram-positive S. aureus.". Ref

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Re: Gather and Post Here Your Medical Tests Results - Discussion Thread
« Reply #479 on: February 22, 2020, 01:05:08 PM »
Vitamin b12 and D are low:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H-Gx4YaeMJTJiiQSertvGyHSLSmZx24f/view?usp=drivesdk

"Other observed deficiencies include copper and assorted B vitamins."

"...vitamine D deficiency by laboratoria criteria is often present in MCAS [192], though often with no clear correlation to clinical effects..."


Presentation, Diagnosis, and Management of Mast Cell Activation Syndrome

Thyroid (My results indicate subclinical hypothyroidism that does not require treatment):
THYROID STIMULATING HORMONE * 5.83 mIU/L 0.27 - 4.2
FREE THYROXINE 18.0 pmol/l 12.0 - 22.0
FREE T3 3.2 pmol/L 3.1 - 6.8
Antibodies were negative for autoimmune thyroid disease.

"Hypothyroidism (including Hashimoto's thyroiditis) and elevated levels of TSH are often seen in MCAS patients."
https://www.mastattack.org/2014/10/metabolic-issues-associated-with-mcas/
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