Chart of POIS Types and Their Possible Relief Methods (ongoing project)

[certainlypois2]

You fogot one group: desensitization treatment. I have 70% less symptoms and only 1 day of POIS. And I am not the only one.

And also cbd oil. Zero POIS with highly pure (20%) cbd oil. Unfortunatly because of an overdose I developped an allergy for cbd oil.

One big difference in POIS types is guys with and without NE/PE.

Another difference is guys who don’t get POIS if they have sexual activity but don’t ejaculate.

Can someone explain what is NE and PE, please? I understand that PE= POIS post-ejaculation?

NE = Nocturnal Emission and PE = Premature Ejaculation

[ste]

Dear friends,I also suffer from very severe "pois" related symptoms (they last 5 days) but i'm sure this condition does not exist per itself, but is created when exceeding with masturbation. Exagerate in anything in the long term will almost always bring a pathology.Human body is designed to cum only a few times a year(0-10), not continuously as most do(f.e 1000 times per year).Some people take a few minutes to recover this lost energy, others, like us, several days but it is worth knowing yourself perfectly and acting accordingly by reducing or completely stopping masturbation. Orgasm drains an huge amount of vital energy and the key for stay well in this experience we call "life" is equilibrium.

Then i suggest you to stop wasting time to investigate a syndrome that doesn't exist to mask it with worthless methods such as supplements,drugs and so on..after an orgasm the body needs to rebuild itself on its own,and it knows how to do it;but it requires a long time because you have abused it over so many years

[BoneBroth]

Hi ste!

Yes, the body will repair after som days after a POIS, but it will happen again and again and you cannot repair forever. Your body might not last as along as someone who dont have POIS. For me MB is not a problem since I dont do it, but I cannot stop nocturnal emission from happening and those are as worse. My view of the supplements is to restore the body to its initial strength so NE will not cause POIS at all. Of cource natural supplementation will also strengthen your body in a million of other ways.

[Muon]

Norethisterone could be added:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3028282/

[Quantum]

Here is a quick link to the POIS Types Chart itself, which is at the beginning of this thread:
POIS TYPES CHART is found at  https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg19448#msg19448

This chart is also a great place to find what methods have proven to be effective for other members in relieving their POIS symptoms.

[Quantum]

Hi everyone,

I have just added two new entries in my Chart of POIS Types: Type 15 ( Milnacipran) and type 16 ( prednisone/dexamethasone), from members inputs in 2020.  There are now 16 referenced methods of POIS symptoms relief that has been shown effective for at least over 3 months, for at least one member ! 
This list will still expand, and is a good source of information for those who have not found anything yet to relieve their POIS symptoms.  I also hope it will help us understand the multiple faces of POIS.I hope you will find something to help you in this chart.  See the complete chart at the top of this thread. 
Direct link :  Chart of Pois Types and Possible Relief Methods

[certainlypois2]

what do you think about solutions from like reddit, i can look through their  post and compile some.

[Muon]

what do you think about solutions from like reddit, i can look through their  post and compile some.

If you find solutions anywhere then please place the links in the comment section of the thread below. It is not as detailed as Quantum's thread but the aim is to give you a quick overview. Quantum can cherry pick stuff from that thread as well and incorporate into his own thread based on 'types'.

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3551.msg37338#msg37338

[Quantum]

what do you think about solutions from like reddit, i can look through their  post and compile some.

Hi CP2, and Muon,
Do not hesitate to share here solutions form reddit, facebook groups, or elsewhere.  As a matter of fact, you can see that in 16 - POIS type: Responding to oral corticosteroids ( prednisone or dexamethasone), I have included a reference member from the POIS reddit page, aquantiV , because he had made a very complete post, enough to meet my criteria for the POIS Types Chart.
Again, for inclusion in the chart, I look for solutions that bring 75% or more relief of POIS Symptoms, a method that is described in details ( dosage, timing, and any relevant information necessary to "duplicate" it ), and that this solution have been effective for over 3 months or more, so that it is clear that it is not a placebo effect neither just a temporary relief that will fade for an unknown reason.   I also prefer not to include extreme or controversial solutions, as I want the chart to share rather easily accessible, and safe, methods.
(Muon, I am not sure that I have read all the threads you are linking to in your list. If I have missed some methods in your large list that meet those criteria, just let me know ! Sadly, what is often missing is a long term follow up by the member who shares his success after a few weeks or so, and does not come back after some months to confirm that his solution is still effective )

[Muon]

It's a dumping ground Quantum. It's not based on criteria in terms of a certain amount of relief. Some threads need follow ups if relief holds up and/or are place holders for the time being, relief is highly variable. I cannot keep track of these threads to ask if relief holds up so some are there as a reminder. I think I've emailed at least a dozen of POISers over the years if their method holds up but most don't respond. Temporary relief doesn't mean it's placebo. It's pretty common in neurosomatic disorders that people develop tolerance, I still take a note. 

[Quantum]

It's a dumping ground Quantum. It's not based on criteria in terms of a certain amount of relief. Some threads need follow ups if relief holds up and/or are place holders for the time being, relief is highly variable. I cannot keep track of these threads to ask if relief holds up so some are there as a reminder. I think I've emailed at least a dozen of POISers over the years if their method holds up but most don't respond. Temporary relief doesn't mean it's placebo. It's pretty common in neurosomatic disorders that people develop tolerance, I still take a note.

Sure, Muon, no problem.  I sometime put a question in a thread to get a follow up, and rarely get one.  So, do not worry, and do not invest time in this.  Just collecting those case who are already clear and complete is fine.

[Quantum]

Norethisterone could be added:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3028282/

Sorry Muon, I have missed this great suggestion you made last summer... I was busy with the pandemic.   I have just added it as type 17 in the chart.  It is very valuable, since it is a published medical article, so physicians will feel more secure about this source of information.

As I have noted in the chart, it sure looks like a POIS case, even if the author refer to it as a benign coital headache case, adding that headache is just one of the symptoms in his syndrome.  I think the author was not aware of a rare syndrome called POIS when he published in 2010.
See the result of this addition at Chart of Pois Types and Possible Relief Methods

[Muon]

Yes nanna1 pointed this out to me via PM.

[kasra]

I read in pois related articles that some patients have been treated with SSRIs but I haven seen them in the topic,has anyone ever got relief with a SSRI?

[Quantum]

I read in pois related articles that some patients have been treated with SSRIs but I haven seen them in the topic,has anyone ever got relief with a SSRI?

Many doctors have tried it on POIS patients, but I have never seen a testimony here that a SSRI have been effective to relieve POIS symptoms.  The only related account I read on the forum is the success of one member with Prozac totally preventing his rather frequent nocturnal emissions. But this is not what can be call a treatment for POIS, only a method to prevent NE.
If you find a written account of success in relieving POIS symptoms with a SSRI, let me know.

[Meshal]

I read in pois related articles that some patients have been treated with SSRIs but I haven seen them in the topic,has anyone ever got relief with a SSRI?

I have been taking SSRI for over a year now. It's exactly as Quantem mentioned, a method to avoid frequent NE's. It did not relief my POIS symptoms whatsoever. However It helps me avoid NE's for more than two weeks which is super useful in a poiser lifestyle.

[kasra]

I read in pois related articles that some patients have been treated with SSRIs but I haven seen them in the topic,has anyone ever got relief with a SSRI?

Many doctors have tried it on POIS patients, but I have never seen a testimony here that a SSRI have been effective to relieve POIS symptoms.  The only related account I read on the forum is the success of one member with Prozac totally preventing his rather frequent nocturnal emissions. But this is not what can be call a treatment for POIS, only a method to prevent NE.
If you find a written account of success in relieving POIS symptoms with a SSRI, let me know.

I found this guy on the forum who got relief by SSRIs,but his pois was psychosomatic:
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2841.msg26009#msg26009

[Quantum]

I read in pois related articles that some patients have been treated with SSRIs but I haven seen them in the topic,has anyone ever got relief with a SSRI?

Many doctors have tried it on POIS patients, but I have never seen a testimony here that a SSRI have been effective to relieve POIS symptoms.  The only related account I read on the forum is the success of one member with Prozac totally preventing his rather frequent nocturnal emissions. But this is not what can be call a treatment for POIS, only a method to prevent NE.
If you find a written account of success in relieving POIS symptoms with a SSRI, let me know.

I found this guy on the forum who got relief by SSRIs,but his pois was psychosomatic:
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2841.msg26009#msg26009

Interesting, Kasra, but in this case, his latest follow-up is two weeks after initiating his therapy. Also, I do not see details on his POIS symptoms or history, which would make for better information.  Anyway, for making it in the chart, it takes a follow-up showing that the method or therapy is still efficient after 3 months or so.  Many therapies or methods are efficient for a while, in the beginning, and then effects fade away after some weeks.  It may be because of some unknown failure or saturation of the method, or because of the placebo effect, or both.  If the specific treatment or method still works after 3 months, it is good proof that there is long-term effectiveness.
All methods in the chart have shown more than 3 months of effectiveness.  this does not guarantee success for any other member, but this guarantees that it is sound and verified information, with a probability to help other members. 



P.S.  shortcut to the POIS Types Chart and their possible relief methods: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg19448#msg19448

[poishell]

https://www.mycandidacleanse.com/could-pois-post-orgasmic-illness-syndrome-be-candida/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISnnag8UOGw

https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/diarrhea-after-masturbation

Fluconazole worked for me.

But when you do O and again candida occurs and then Fluconazole 400mg need to be taken.

But Fluconazole had high GI side effects.

So ,

Iam taking Fluconazole +probiotics

Fluconazole = AF 400

probiotics = vsl#3


But both are very costly.

[Unvers]

I got this stuff from this morning:

Vitamin E 63mg
Vitamin B5 19.5mg
Magnesium 100mg
Zinc 16mg
Selenium 80mcg
Creatine anhydrous 1300mg
Acetyl-L-carnitine taurinate 150mg
L-Aspartic Acid 150mg
L-carnosine 50mg
L-asparagine 25mg
Lycodose 4.8mg
Vitamin A 1600mcg
Vitamin C 240mg
Folic acid 400mcg
Vitamin B1 3.6mg
Vitamin B2 4.2mg
Vitamin B6 4.2mg
Vitamin B12 6mcg
Vitamin D 20mcg
Vitamin B3 65mg
Vitamin B8 125mcg
Vitamin K 60mcg
Iron 7.5mg
Magnesium 240mg
Copper 1mg
Chromium 80mcg
Iodine 200mcg
Calcium 400mg
Phosphorus 210mg
Molybdenum 100mcg
Manganese 4mg
Levodopa 52.5mg

Let's add cocoa, some Monster (which then further raises some B vitamins as well as having caffeine, taurine and other stuff), nicotine and a cappuccino this morning.

Obviously I didn't take it all together but in the period from before the first orgasm to after the second.

After the first one I felt better than when I usually have an orgasm due to the strong chemical support, I dared to try a second and now even if the cognitive part is not so bad I feel irritability, a bit of mental fog and a feeling of being under attack as infectious, I have a strange feeling in my head, like a stinging sensation that doesn't make me as lucid as before orgasms.

Probably the chemical mixture was helpful but not too much because I did not remember such a strong attack for some time, it must also be said that here it is now morning while lately I usually manage to have orgasms in the evening in order to dispose of in sleep while now I still have to go to work, it will be a long day.