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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #640 on: October 27, 2020, 12:39:16 AM »
Sorry for the question?  Can you describe how do you do the bird bath?  I am becoming mentally depressed now so much that I could not understand even normal  things unless explained.  I have both hot and cold shower problem apart from shaving   the head or face. These things can cause symptoms as hard as POIS and my  doctors say it is all in my head and I need psychiatric therapy.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #641 on: October 27, 2020, 12:19:09 PM »
G, Your statement, “ Please give it a try”, was removed. Please see our forum rules @
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1.msg10259#msg10259

“Do not use POISCenter as a substitute for, or to give, medical advice“

Sorry,
I was just so happy with the result, forgot this is forbidden. wanted to share and help, but understand it's dangerous.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #642 on: October 27, 2020, 01:50:32 PM »
G, thanks for understanding!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #643 on: October 31, 2020, 07:18:01 PM »
Cross-posted from “Went to an andrologist and...TRT helps“
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3557.msg37267#msg37267

Hello guys, some months ago i went to an andrologist and my trt levels were 3,70 ng/ml and trt really helps.One of my symptoms are that i'm really dizzy and  TRT almost completely eliminates the dizziness

This is what i wanted to say,thanks!

Thanks, Drew1312
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #644 on: November 04, 2020, 09:11:31 PM »
I could not find a topic about Benadryl. But I also ordered it. It is not available in The Netherlands, so it has to be shipped. How do you use Benadryl? Do you take before or after O.
A bit offtopic but I want to report that Benadryl did not help me. Gives me a dry mouth, no better sleep.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #645 on: November 04, 2020, 10:39:41 PM »
Van, Muon and others have posted alternatives to Benadryl.

It works for me, but many people react differently.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #646 on: November 05, 2020, 01:21:04 PM »
Cross-posted from:
Topic: POIS Paper Archive - a list of scientific articles about POIS
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3127.msg37366#msg37366

No POIS but potentially a very important paper. Adding this to the testosterone section on page 1:

RESOLUTION OF SEASONAL ALLERGIES BY TESTOSTERONE REPLACEMENT THERAPY IN A HYPOGONADAL MALE PATIENT: A CASE REPORT

Thanks, Muon!

This is exactly how my medical records describe me:
“HYPOGONADAL MALE PATIENT”

(I’m not medically-listed primarily as a “POISer” - - my endocrinologist is too conservative to profile me with just having POIS  :) )
« Last Edit: November 06, 2020, 08:28:22 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #647 on: November 05, 2020, 08:31:22 PM »



With my newfound 30-day supply of TRT patches, I continue my old POIS treatment regimen.

It’s still working for me: today is POIS Day Zero (POIS symptom onset began this morning).

For details, read my recent posts at this Testosterone thread. I have been using this protocol (TRT + Benadryl - note: a Benadryl side effect for me is nightmares) for the last 10 years.

Can it work for you? That’s for you and your doctor to explore. We are all different.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2020, 08:46:48 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #648 on: November 06, 2020, 08:47:53 PM »

Testosterone patches dramatically decrease your own production of testosterone. So once you started using patches, it will not help your own production so you have to continue the patches, or quit it and try to kick start the normal production with things on the list...[see link below]


The above paragraph from BoneBroth is an excellent
note of caution to everyone considering TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) - - which is what I have been doing for 10 years. I use testosterone patches, but this cautionary note applies equally to testosterone gel and testosterone injection.

BoneBroth’s list can be found at:
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3572.msg37380#msg37380

ps - TRT caused my sperm count to go to 0.00 - - I have grown children so that’s ok. If you’re considering starting a family, keep this in mind!
« Last Edit: November 07, 2020, 08:47:49 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #649 on: November 22, 2020, 07:30:36 AM »
My POIS doctor it is weird that my testosterone went from 10 to 30 and then back to 15. The urologist said it is ok and sended me away. My POIS doctor also thinks it is strange that two immunologists I visited said it is ok that my IgM was too low. He talked about seeing a doctor in Belgium or Germany.

Have you looked into if these values correlate with changes in environmental temperature/seasons? Encountered this when looking for temperature dependence of acetylcholinesterase in humans. Not a human study but saw IgM being mentioned and remembered you told me about low IgM. Temperature-mediated changes in stress responses, acetylcholinesterase, and immune responses of juvenile olive flounder Paralichthys olivaceus in a bio-floc environment

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« Reply #650 on: November 22, 2020, 06:15:56 PM »
ps - TRT caused my sperm count to go to 0.00 - - I have grown children so that’s ok. If you’re considering starting a family, keep this in mind!

Probably the TRT is not only telling the testicles to stop produce testosterone, but also sperms.

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« Reply #651 on: November 23, 2020, 08:12:36 AM »
The only problem with that theory BoneBroth is there is a documented case of hCG alleviating POIS. hCG increases testosterone without lowering sperm production.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #652 on: November 23, 2020, 05:31:47 PM »
Well is it only hCG in the TRT?

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« Reply #653 on: November 23, 2020, 08:14:22 PM »
Sorry I thought your post was about TRT stopping sperm production and therefore sperm allergy.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #654 on: December 01, 2020, 06:13:41 PM »



My new pharmacist found another 60-day supply of Androderm! (There’s a shortage. Pandemic-related?)

Theory: with POIS onset, there is a dramatic drop in testosterone. So I take 4x my average daily dose of Androderm testosterone patches to offset the T-drop.

365 days/year:      I take 2mg/day
POIS onset:           I take 8mg/day for the 1st 2 days

Benadryl: 50 - 75mg at POIS onset for “extra” SLEEP (this gets me through nastier symptoms rather quickly! Repeated as needed first 2 days/POIS)

It’s been 10 years of TRT-for-POIS protocol for me. It’s not perfect but I’m happy. Especially with my most recent tweaking, described above.

This is not a recommendation or endorsement for other POIS sufferers. I am only reporting my own personal experiments & experiences. It has risks.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 06:11:01 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #655 on: December 01, 2020, 06:17:36 PM »
Watch this webinar from today with hormonal expert dr Thierry Hertoghe. Very useful info on testosterone and HGF deficiencies.

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« Reply #656 on: December 02, 2020, 11:00:01 AM »
how often would i be able to have sex with this remedy?

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« Reply #657 on: December 02, 2020, 06:05:07 PM »
Impossible to answer. Everyone is different. And no one knows if TRT will even work for you. At all.

 

This [TRT] is not a recommendation or endorsement for other POIS sufferers. I am only reporting my own personal experiments & experiences. It has risks.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 06:12:09 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #658 on: December 13, 2020, 03:24:39 PM »
For those who have tried TRT; When does the effect kick in after application?

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« Reply #659 on: December 13, 2020, 06:05:06 PM »

For those who have tried TRT; When does the effect kick in after application?



It took my system a few weeks. But only for the very first application.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2020, 02:46:55 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business