Actions to take after orgasm (post-packs)

[BoneBroth]

There are many lists of POIS pre-packs in this forum but I can't find any good compilation of post-packs - measures to take right after an orgasm to minimize POIS effects. At best there are some suggestions in Quantums POIS Types Chart at https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg19448#msg19448.

Here will be a list of action that members has reported to work. It might be a good idea to be prepaired and put the list on the fridge! Once it has happened, your brain fog might stop you from remember what to do, and some things seems to be important to do within the first two minutes after O. I have only remembered seeing many of theese things in the forum, but I need help to find the references.

DIRECTLY AFTER, WITHIN TWO MINUTES
Quantums pre-pack
Aspirine (Iwillbeatthis)
Ibuprofen, 400 mg, with lots of water (Quantums POIS Types Chart)
Coconut oil (2-6 table spoons) (antiinflammatory, works for me)
Get body contact with your partner. This releases anti-inflammatory hormones like oxytocin (me)
Paracetamol 500 mg (user Prospero, Iwillbeatthis)

FIRST DAY MEASURES (OR MORNING AFTER)
B Complex, active forms (user berlin1984)
Magnesium (user berlin1984)
Garlic, fenugreek, niacin, & matcha green tea, in combination with gluten free diet (user warrioronthetrot)
L-Theanine (user berlin1984)
Ashwagandha extract (user berlin1984)
Rosea Rhodiola extract (user berlin1984)
Tribulus Terestris (user berlin1984)
Passion Flower extract (user berlin1984)
Calcium 600mg/Vit D 800IU, Vitamin C 500mg, Magnesium 500mg, Vitamin B1 250 mg, Aside from that I also take or do: Master amino acid pattern, Vegan nutritional shake, Fish Oil, Probiotics, Intermittent fasting (Nurse86)
Coffee (user Hopeoneday sais "good quality coffee after meal, effect last 6-7 hours", not recommended by user Iwillbeatthis)
Cold showers
Ginger tea
Garlic (me)
Salt (me)
Raising blood pressure to normal 120/80 (me, I think its the salt that does it. Please do the blood pressure poll here: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3580.0)
High intensity training
Avoid intensive brain activity, take walks, rest. Don't participate in social activities, don't read books/listening to music/watching movies (works for me to minimize inflammation inpact)
Hug your parnter often and pet an animal (releases oxytocin to compensate inflammatory hormones)
Coconut oil (I use it in everything, smoothies, coocking. Seems to be very anti-inflammatory in enought amounts - 2-6 table spoons a day)
Curcumine 103 mg (Curcuma longa 500 mg) + black pepper (user Prospero)

SECOND DAY MEASURES
Avoid intensive brain activity, take walks, rest
Colloidal silver (me, 0,5 dl three times a day between meals for the acne, keep in mouth 1 minute before swallow, continue to forth/fifth day)

DURING THE WHOLE POIS PERIOD
Intermittent fasting - only eating food between 10 am to about 4 pm (works for me to lower inflammation in intestines and better recover during sleep).
Water fast / juice fast (relieves inflammation in the intestines and leaky gut)
Digestive aide if your not fasting (HCL, enzymes)
Fenugreek (Quantums POIS Types Chart)
Salt (Himalyan/Sea salt) increases blood pressure (only for those who have low blood pressure)
Ginkgo (Quantum)
Turmeric, cucumin, ginger, garlic
Magnesium (Quantum)
Drink alot of water (works for me)
Vitamin C (works for me)
Coconut oil (antiinflammatory, use it in everything, smoothies, coocking)
Blood thinners (MSM, water, turmeric, ginger, vitamin E, ginko, grape seed extract)
CBD oil
Avoid sedentary lifestyle (stop inflammatory substances from accumulate in tissues). Get a step-meter and be sure to walk at least 5 000 steps each day or do 100 jumps three times a day with a skipping rope. Get your circulation going right after waking up in the morning. If you  do office work, set an egg timer on 30 minutes interval the whole day and do some moving when it rings.
Avoiding heavy food - meat, gas-producing vegetables (works fo me)
Stimulate testosterone to compensate inflammatory hormones and stop tissue breakdown and dryness. See thread "How to increase testosterone naturally" here: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3572.msg37380#msg37380
Wash and massage your face gently (or take showers) in warm water regluary to stimulate blood circulation and avoid acne. (works for me, but dont do it the first day as it might push inflammatory sustances into the tissues)
Optimize your sleep (me, user Prospero, Iwillbeatthis) (there should be a separate thread about this)
Perrin technique- lymphatic drainge, brain detox (user Iwillbeatthis)
Dynamic Neural Retraining System (DNRS) (user Iwillbeatthis)
Milk thistle for gastro issues or nausea (Iwillbeatthis)
Sam-E (User Iwillbeatthis takes those twice a day)
TMG (User Iwillbeatthis takes those twice a day)
Folate (User Iwillbeatthis takes those twice a day)
Omega-3 (EPA 400 mg, DHA 200 mg) (me, user Prospero)
Skip physical exercise during POIS period. (user Prospero)
Showers, whether cold or warm (user Prospero).

[Prospero]

As for now :

Directly after : Paracetamol 500 mg.

First and second day : Curcumine 103 mg (Curcuma longa 500 mg) + black pepper

During the whole POIS period : Omega-3 (EPA 400 mg, DHA 200 mg)
And absolutely NO physical exercise during POIS period. Showers, whether cold or warm, are generally beneficient. Good sleeps are important too.

[Iwillbeatthis]

These are good suggestions however caffeine will make my POIS worse

[BoneBroth]

Thanks Prospero and Iwillbeatthis, your observations are added to the list. I will now add Paracetamol to my bedside table arsenal already containing this:

1 clove of fresh garlic
3 capsules of curcumin (total 501 mg) ginger (total 83 mg) boswelia (total 167 mg), black pepper (total 41 mg)
1 glass of fresh ginger + fenugreek powder tea with 0,5 tablespoons of sea salt
1 table spoon of omega 3/MCT oil
1 Ibuprofen
1 Aspirin
1 capsule B-complex
1 capsule vitamin c/magnesium

I also feel that hard physic activity is not an option during POIS. However, without keeping the circulation going, blood pools and causes acne and vericose veins (inflammation). The stinging sensation of the blood vessels of the feets/legs are much less or totally disapears when walking. Also the headaches gets some degree less upon walking. I use to walk about 3 000 - 6 000 steps a day during POIS, unless the dull pain in the kidney area and muscle inflammation gets severe.

[Iwillbeatthis]

Milk thistle is good for gastro issues or nausea in POIS, it also boost serotonin
I would say methylb12,folate, sam e , tmg also make me recover much faster from POIS if I take twice a day
Asprin and paracetamol is also helpful
Perrin technique- lymphatic drainge
DNRS - dynamic neural retraining system - limbic system rewiring
Longer sleep

[BoneBroth]

Iwillbeatthis: Are those things good specifically after O or during the whole POIS period?

[Iwillbeatthis]

methylb12,folate, sam e , tmg  - helps at all times
Asprin and paracetamol - before and after
Milk thistle helpful during period if you start to feel gasro issues or nausea
Perrin technique- lymphatic drainge - helpful at all times
DNRS - dynamic neural retraining system - limbic system rewiring helpful at all times
 

[berlin1984]

With the addition of tribulus terestris, my nootropics day-after-stack treats sex-triggered POIS mostly for me. That's one of the reasons I have not been so active on the forum so much anymore.

Masturbation still gives me stronger symptoms though.

[Quantum]

With the addition of tribulus terestris, my nootropics day-after-stack treats sex-triggered POIS mostly for me. That's one of the reasons I have not been so active on the forum so much anymore.

Masturbation still gives me stronger symptoms though.

Hi Berlin,
If you have time, I would like some more details in order to add your method to my chart:
- Is there a definite time you take your post pack after O ?  Is there a difference if you take it sooner, or a bit later?
- You do not take anything before O, if I get it right?
- Could you give the approximative dosage of the main supplements of your post-pack ?
- How would you rate the overall percentage of relief it gives you?  70%?  90%?
- What symptoms are eliminated the most, and which ones are not really relieved?
The more info we have, the more it can be useful for other members!

[Laotzu1980]

Bone broth, it seems there are several things members use that are not listed here... I'm not sure members pay attention to the post right at the top, I didn't even notice it which is why I posted it - and I guess others may not notice it either. Can it really hurt to ask it a few times and then perhaps add those responses here afterwards?

[BoneBroth]

You mean copy the post many times? No, then I have to edit every post everytime it changes. If you find anything I missed on the list just tell it here and maybe I'll add it to the list.

[Laotzu1980]

Propranol, a Beta-blocker. Totally wipes out my cognitive symptoms for a few hours, and then I need to take another tablet. 40 mg each tablet. Maximum dosage I read, is 450 mg per day, but that is a lot..... Be careful, this slows down heart rate and reduced blood pressure.

P.S Propranolol did not work for me as a pre-pack to prevent POIS, but somehow while I am in severe POIS, it removes almost all symptom and I can function normally. The problem is when it wears off, you need to take another tablet, or I'm back in severe POIS where I can barely have a conversation. But, it's something...

[Quantum]

Propranol, a Beta-blocker. Totally wipes out my cognitive symptoms for a few hours, and then I need to take another tablet. 40 mg each tablet. Maximum dosage I read, is 450 mg per day, but that is a lot..... Be careful, this slows down heart rate and reduced blood pressure.

P.S Propranolol did not work for me as a pre-pack to prevent POIS, but somehow while I am in severe POIS, it removes almost all symptom and I can function normally. The problem is when it wears off, you need to take another tablet, or I'm back in severe POIS where I can barely have a conversation. But, it's something...

Hi Laotzu,
There is an extended-release form of propranolol, called Inderal LA  ( for Long Action - see https://www.rxlist.com/inderal-la-drug.htm#description ), that has a 24 hours duration of effect.  It could be interesting for you, regarding this waring-off problem.  The tricky part, as you already know, is that it lowers blood pressure and cardiac rhythm, so you should discuss this with your health professional.   Inderal LA is available in 60, 80, 120, and 160mg dosages, so if you have already taken 80mg within the same day you should be able to tolerate at least the lower dosages.   

If you don't mind, I will mention your name in my POIS Type Chart, in the "Propranolol" section.  I will link to your post, since your method and result are different from those of Arun, but interesting to know for other members.