Got Cured

[lw]

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=4078.0

[mike_sweden]

"and two pizzas". Those times are gone. If I eat ony half a pizza I get horrible POIS symptoms and bloating for days. POIS is definitly a gut issue for me. Most certain it caused by bad "pizza"- bacteria that feast on starchy foods. As long as my gut is calmed and not bloated the POIS symptoms are lower or almost gone. It's a battle to keep it that way. I have to use oregano oil, garlic pills, gut cleansing pills, bonebroth, L-glutamine, coconut oil, billberry. Additionally I have to take walks 2-4 times a day (improve gut movements) and not eat after 18:00 (regenerating the gut). After O the gut is specifically sensitive and only accepting fluent foods. That has made me loose 10 kg in weight and its very hard to gain it back.

Yeah i could never eat a pizza.

[BoneBroth]

I suspect that some of these problems comes from a compromised pancreas. I have six of seven symptoms of pancreatic insufficiency (EPI) and a CT scan indicated this too. The doctor prescribed me Creon for this (Creon is simply three common enzymes: amylas, lipas, proteas).

Check out my new pancreas poll here!

[lw]

I'm convinced that it's just Gas in my intestines that makes me dizzy and different person.
I know it sounds insane.

Now, what causes the Gas is another question.

[BoneBroth]

Well the only thing I know that is causing gas in the intestine is bacteria, and they produce either methane or hydrogen. And since it's not normal to have very much gas, you might simply have the wrong bacteria flora, at the wrong place. What make them do this? Well the only thing I know is either wrong diet (sugar/starch) or too little stomach acid/bile/enzyme production. Whats the main cause? Low stommach acid is normally caused by stress. Damaged organs could have many causes: poisining, injuries, auto inflammatory conditions, alcohole consumption, perhaps POIS inflammation etcetera. The problem with identifying a damages organ is that the doctors normally check only one or two blood markers, but an organ produces dozens of important substances and if the organ is only partly damaged the markers could still be normal, but other substances could be low, but they never test those.

[lw]

Well the only thing I know that is causing gas in the intestine is bacteria, and they produce either methane or hydrogen. And since it's not normal to have very much gas, you might simply have the wrong bacteria flora, at the wrong place. What make them do this? Well the only thing I know is either wrong diet (sugar/starch) or too little stomach acid/bile/enzyme production. Whats the main cause? Low stommach acid is normally caused by stress. Damaged organs could have many causes: poisining, injuries, auto inflammatory conditions, alcohole consumption, perhaps POIS inflammation etcetera. The problem with identifuing a damages organ is that the doctors normally check only one or two blood markers, but an organ produces dozens of important substances and if the organ is only partly damaged the markers could still be normal, but other substances could be low, but they never test those.

Do you suffer from intense gas also sir?

[BoneBroth]

Sure do! There's no energy crises in my home! Haha.. I think I get most gas by apples and other fruits. Probably a FODMAP issue here but I also have signs that my pancreas is not working correctly during pois (not enought enzyme production). So I've just start taking Creone on prescription.

[lw]

Alright.

I'm leaving this forum.

In the search for the truth about my condition and POIS, I've finally concluded that
POIS is mind-body disease. It's a trauma, intense stress experience and irritation that is magnified by the thoughts that POIS is some kind of rare physiological disease and there is no cure.

In fact there is.
It is stress stored in my body
there are plenty of ways to relieve it:

Visiting
https://www.tmswiki.org/w/index.php?page=The_Tension_Myositis_Syndrome_Wiki. is the best way to start

And yes, everything that you experience should be discussed with Psychiatrists.

SIBO theory is still hyped on this forum because after the trauma is reenacted our stomach gets irritated and we experience intense gas.

Another reason why many cures are found and gone is that cures have Placebo effect which itself reaffirm the reason that it is Mind-Body Nervous disease.

There are many, many very clever people on this forum but they simply can't be convinced that what they have has been known to medicine for decades and even centuries.

Dr Sarno has many theories why TMS happen. For me it was perfectionism mostly (I have noticed many perfectionist people on this forum).
Dig into it but what I suggest more is to consult Psychiatrist/Psychotherapists.

I don't care about IT WAS JUST MY POIS and YOUR POIS is different from it. Honestly, from what I?ve gathered most forum members experience similar symptoms  and were relieved by similar treatments

Good Luck

[lw]

Many sufferers will benefit from this book

https://www.amazon.com/Hope-Help-Nerves-Claire-Weekes/dp/0451167228

[lw]

nervous illness, neurotic, mental disorder, sensitive nervous system, anxiety.

[lw]

When you are in POIS state, try to magnify the feeling, feel the fear wholly.

[lw]

For me POIS is just the trauma triggered by orgasm. Now I'm convinced.

[Hopeoneday]

Hi lw, wery "simple" solution for you, souround your self
with numerus trauma experts, they will fix you trauma
with medicines and psychiatrics sesions.
Result-pois fixed! Wery easy!

[lw]

Hi lw, wery "simple" solution for you, souround your self
with numerus trauma experts, they will fix you trauma
with medicines and psychiatrics sesions.
Result-pois fixed! Wery easy!

I hope you are not trying to be cynical here. I strongly believe that great amount of cases of POIS have very similar cause. I'm trying to help those individuals.
I have suffered through it and I still have mild symptoms. I've fluctuated between many theories and I was very impatient to examine if they were correct.

Now that I'm starting to learn how to control my thoughts (and I think unconscious thoughts are one that have most impact) I'm feeling much more free and happy to alive.
POIS days were full of angst, fear. The fear of I'll say something dumb. Something is wrong with me and I'm incapable of being human and etc. I searched so many theories like a madman, I didn't trust doctors because I thought POIS was something new and unknown for the medicine.

There is one think to help to check if your POIS is similar to mine.

Does reading good poetry clear your mind?

If that's so than I think I can help you to find a way.

Also if massaging your toes gently helps with your POISyour case is similar to me

Peace. I love each and everyone of you. There is no one quite like you who can understand how much I suffered past my six years.
Good Luck.

[lw]

One thing that was also stressing me was that when I was (and sometimes still am) in POIS state. I'd start stressing that:
"I've got so many things to do. There is no time to be in POIS state, without energy or any clear mind"

But the plot twist is the stress was magnifying the POIS so more I stressed to get out of POIS, worse it became.

[Hopeoneday]

Stress mgnifaying eny ilness, this sis science proved.

So, i agree with you that acute strees and acute trauma
can couse illnes, maybe pois in yours case.

As you can see, pois induce stress( at my case), and
when i am complitly out of pois, i can endure eny stress induced
on thiss planet earth.

The only solution for this problem to try to slove is to dr experts , pshychiatrics sesion , medicines then see the results...

[lw]

I'm going to start Neurofeedback therapy. Also I need to regulate my sleep cycle (go to sleep at 12) and check my D vitamin levels

[lw]

I'd 2 neurofeedback sessions so far so good. I'm feeling much better and alive.

I still want to reinforce the idea that POIS is strongly connected to mental disorders. (it can be cured)
It took me 4 years to realize that.
I think all of the POISers must be meditating at least 15 minutes a day
 

[lw]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lCuuC3-oTN6X9H72BxPiR1H6wl6gyTLU/view?usp=sharing

Here is my brain scan. Anxiety and Depression is apparent on it

[lw]

My POIS is gone and it will never come back. It was just deranged mental state. I think most of members of this forum would benefit from checking with psychiatrist. Check you brain waves. I'm sorry to have posted many wrong "Cures".
It is anxiety which has psychosomatic connections with gut. Some of the members might experience pain in the neck, strained gut, restlessness. Some of you might have difficulties digesting food (high fiber food).
In just 5 sessions I'm much better.