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lw

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Got Cured
« on: April 14, 2019, 01:27:20 PM »
Hello,
I was suffering from pois for a long time and have been diagnosed with IBS. I been treating it last 4 months and significantly improved my symptoms.
Symptoms included
- Lose of weight.
After orgasm:
- Bloating and constipation.
- Depression and inability be social.
- Brain fog   

What I would suggest is checking with gastroenterologist.
How I treated pois:
- low FODMAP diet.
- Yoga and stress control.
- I also took antidepresants but I it didn't help me much.
- Probiotics (Necessary!)
- Get enough sleep!
- Work out.

But most of all, I repeat, you should check with gastroenterologist!
You will see changes yourself.
Good Luck!

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2019, 01:55:31 PM »
If only curing POIS was that simple.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2019, 10:23:00 AM »
Yup, that's what I think too now  ;D
Trust me I was on the edge of suicide.
I think for most of the cases, it's IBS.
That's why diet helped Going Less Crazy
or Yoga others, or some thought it was just in our heads.

IBS is connected to stress (which is "cured" by yoga) and Gut flora.
I have read 'Leaky Gut' theories on this forum but IBS is more close to symptoms of pois.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2019, 10:48:05 AM »
Stress sounds like a cortisol issue. Maybe the reason why testosterone works for some is that it reduces cortisol levels? Interesting theory.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2019, 02:16:12 PM »
Yes. That’s interesting, Nas.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2019, 03:54:35 PM »
What I would suggest is checking with gastroenterologist.

Hi Iw.
So yours gastro... recomended yoga , probiotics and lowfodmap , or???
« Last Edit: April 15, 2019, 04:12:17 PM by demografx »
Dr-pois.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2019, 12:54:03 AM »
Stress sounds like a cortisol issue. Maybe the reason why testosterone works for some is that it reduces cortisol levels? Interesting theory.

Thats exactly what I was thinking the last couple of days, I am almost certain that my cortisol levels are high from this lifestyle so TRT would probably ease that but I will try some other cortisol reducing methods soon.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2019, 07:36:14 AM »
What I would suggest is checking with gastroenterologist.

Hi Iw.
So yours gastro... recomended yoga , probiotics and lowfodmap , or???

For gut flora he suggested lowfodmap and probiotics
For stress and anxiety(He told me that IBS is called "gut neuroisis") he suggested antidepresants and checking with therapists, which I didn't do sadly.
If I had gone to the therapist, I would have cured my POIS (which turned out to be IBS) faster.
Stress messes with your gut, and yoga is one of the best things which you can do to reduce it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhSJy1gVSAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJbRpHZr_d0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvAx7q2LKqk

Here are some yoga  videos I suggest watching and doing yourself.
IBS explains bloating sounds in your stomach after orgasm too.

I am sure that for most of the cases it's IBS. You can check it yourself:
After orgasm check your stomach and if your gut feels hardened or if eating garlic/onion causes brain fog (not necessarily) than IBS is very likely.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/irritable-bowel-syndrome-ibs/symptoms/ Here is some info about it.
I forgot to mention constant feeling of tiredness and lack of energy which is also symptom of both IBS and POIS and it's what gave some members of the forum "Adrenaline fatigue" idea.

For others I've heard "Sibo theory" which is also partly correct. When there is imbalance in your gut, it's likely that you will have 'bad bacterias' in your gut. Probiotics will solve that problem.

I'm pretty sure I know how to cure pois. I could have started calling myself a doctor, create pseudo-cure-your-pois-website and gain profit, but I'm telling you it's just IBS and it's perfectly manageable  :)



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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2019, 08:35:27 AM »
Are you aware how many people on the planet have ibs? How many people are under constant stress?
Only one orgasm after 20 days of abstinence, cut me to half, cut me into the pelvis, can hardly stand on my feet from weakness, my face is changing, my breath lowers, I get heavy migraine, the nervous system barely holds my body standing, so much weakens.
I've been drinking probiotics for a year, many species tried.
light exercise stretching and yoga I do my whole life.
Dr-pois.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2019, 02:23:49 PM »
Concerning the topic of Cortisol, I'm doing a 600mg Ketoconazole trial. Ketoconazole is used as an anti-androgen for cushings syndrome and prostate cancer. This way cortisol is physiologically inhibited. Ketoconazole is also interesting because it's an anti-fungal medication. So it is also a trial for the Candida theory. Regarding the testosterone theory, it's also inserting because if it made me worst then it can also confirm the testosterone involvement in my case. 
Will update you soon.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2019, 02:45:35 PM »
This is wery good idea to test. I did allways want to try antifungals, because my cronic sinuses problems,
so there is always actiwe inflamation, alergic to fungals i supose,
also elevated cortisol could be  sign that body is constant under inflamation.
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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2019, 01:54:16 PM »
Both IBS and POIS are disorders related to immune system dysfunction. Moreover regarding IBS many studies have confirmed it as a low-grade inflammation of the intestinal mucosa. So it's not a surprise that whatever helps IBS helps POIS as well. And vice-versa too.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2019, 01:58:20 PM by kingfisher »

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2019, 03:28:44 PM »
I also have problems with my gut. In my case, some antibodies against gluten are raising on my body since I began with POIS. Antibodies against gluten. But not all the usual for a celiac desease. Indeed gastroenterologists confirmed me I am not celiac but my inmune system has developed sensitivity to gluten. So I am doing a free gluten diet. But It is true that although I have improved, I keep noticing problems in my gut.... Maybe this FODMAP diet is better than just gluten free diet. But I need to find a professional who knows about it....

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2019, 09:48:49 AM »
Alright so I tried ketoconazole for 3 days in a row. Today I tried an 800mg does. Overall it did not help with anything and it made me really low in energy. It's not going to be evidence that cortisol is not involved but it's promising so far.

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2019, 12:07:30 PM »
I am doing a free gluten diet. But It is true that although I have improved, I keep noticing problems in my gut.... Maybe this FODMAP diet is better than just gluten free diet. But I need to find a professional who knows about it....

This is so relatable. I also started with gluten free diet without noticing any difference. Go full FODMAP (But diet solely won't cure you).

For anxiety and stress, I repeat, yoga is the best choice. I have no idea about cortisol thing, I never took any pills for that.

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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2019, 12:57:01 PM »
I am doing a free gluten diet. But It is true that although I have improved, I keep noticing problems in my gut.... Maybe this FODMAP diet is better than just gluten free diet. But I need to find a professional who knows about it....

This is so relatable. I also started with gluten free diet without noticing any difference. Go full FODMAP (But diet solely won't cure you).

For anxiety and stress, I repeat, yoga is the best choice. I have no idea about cortisol thing, I never took any pills for that.

Thanks, lw and fernab!
« Last Edit: April 18, 2019, 01:35:00 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2019, 01:12:21 PM »
Hello,
I was suffering from pois for a long time and have been diagnosed with IBS. I been treating it last 4 months and significantly improved my symptoms.
Symptoms included
- Lose of weight.
After orgasm:
- Bloating and constipation.
- Depression and inability be social.
- Brain fog

What I would suggest is checking with gastroenterologist.
How I treated pois:
- low FODMAP diet.
- Yoga and stress control.
- I also took antidepresants but I it didn't help me much.
- Probiotics (Necessary!)
- Get enough sleep!
- Work out.

But most of all, I repeat, you should check with gastroenterologist!
You will see changes yourself.
Good Luck!

If your POIS ( Autoimmune ) is related to gut than change your diet ( eliminates anything that hurt your gut)  the POIS symptoms will subside.. but will come back if you introduce those stuff back.. that?s not cure.. am I wrong??

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2019, 11:04:10 PM »
Guys it makes total sense, why are you all stary eyed shocked ::) :o   "Stress" is the culprit, we know that, you all should know that.  Stress, combined with environmental factors, combined with your biological predilections (genetics) is what auto-immune diseases are.  Stress is the "trigger".  That is how we developed POIS.   Now everyone has a different appetite for tolerating stress before we succumb to an auto-immune illness.  'lw' has cured his stress through yoga, I believe it.  'lw' through his very nic demonstrates that he is not very complex (good trait), I mean how simple a nic can be than just 'lw'?, and guess what taking yoga, fixed his chronic stress, which fixed his gut, and that fixed his POIS.  That makes sense.  Now for me, I'm overly complicated person, you put me in yoga or you put in the mouth of a shark (or whale) it aint gonna budge my stress, and I guess for most of you :)     


I am doing a free gluten diet. But It is true that although I have improved, I keep noticing problems in my gut.... Maybe this FODMAP diet is better than just gluten free diet. But I need to find a professional who knows about it....

This is so relatable. I also started with gluten free diet without noticing any difference. Go full FODMAP (But diet solely won't cure you).

For anxiety and stress, I repeat, yoga is the best choice. I have no idea about cortisol thing, I never took any pills for that.
POIS Free, 1+ yrs despite daily o's (with occasional pois episodes)
Pois symptoms: Peripheral (Skin: Urticaria, dryness, pale blotchy skin), Exasperation of: [Nerve weakness, Muscle weakness + Mental (CNS: Brain Fog, Irritation, Isolation, Speech lethargy, Anxiety)].
Other conditions: ASD, ADD, GA

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2019, 12:47:01 PM »
Stress is the "trigger".  That is how we developed POIS.
You think stress causes POIS? Interesting.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2019, 12:50:00 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Got Cured
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2019, 06:46:01 AM »
Stress is the "trigger".  That is how we developed POIS.
You think stress causes POIS? Interesting.

I agree. Stress is main reason for IBS. No matter how hard you work, try to be mindful, meditate, do yoga, socialize, hug more, stay away from internet (even if you work as a programmer, including myself).  I would suggest also keeping a diary to control your cognitive life.

One thing that interests me is - have you had problems with gaining weight recently? Please respond  :)
There are some questions I would like to ask members of this forum, what do you suggest, where and how should I do that?