LIST OF HELPFUL TREATMENTS Niacin Niacin is a B - Vitamin important to many functions in the body, but for poisers it is very powerful tool against pois. It was discovered by a group memeber and his doctor. Those that have used niacin say it reduces their symptoms from within the range of 80% and 100%. You can use niacin as a shot or as a pill. The pill form can be the flush type which is called nicotinic acid or the non flush type which is called niacinamide. You can look through the niacin discussion part of the forum to decide which form and is better for you. But most people have seen results with the flush type niacin. As group we are not sure why niacin works but the two prevailing theories are associated with histamine. Either niacin is using up the histamine need to create allergy reaction caused by orgasm or is a precursor for creating histamine because we are low on histamine. Be careful while using niacin to frequent of use can damage your liver and the flush created from the flush type will be very intense if dosage to high. As with any drugs make sure you consult with your doctor while using niacin.
Members:
victor.kon, observercenter, daveman, jivetalk, guthrie, vincentmarcus
Dosage:
injection; .1ml of 75mg xanithol nicotinate
Pills; 150mg xanithol nicotinate, 200mg nicotinic acid flush type, 1000mg niancinamide.
Procedure:
Using niacin on a empty stomach/ 6 hours of fasting
- use 100 - 200mg of niacin
- wait until the flush passes before orgasm, by this time the itching has stopped and skin redness is disappearing. ( this process takes about 30 mins to an hour or more depending on you or how empty stomach is).
- Now you can have orgasm. By this time niacin has converted.
Using niacin a short time after eating (1-4 hrs preferably a light meal)
- break pill open for the powder form.
- put first half of powder under tongue and let it sit until it is absorbed (try not to swallow).
- then put second half of powder under tongue and let it absorb ( try not to swallow).
- this flush should much faster, as previous example wait till flush disappears before orgasm.
Using niancimide
- use pill and wait 1-2hrs before orgasm
Injection
* before doing this you must get consent and advise of your doctor.
- inject .1ml of 75mg xanithol nicotinate before orgasm.
- flush kicks in right away so you don't have to wait as long.
- possible maximum wait time before orgasm 5hrs.
* You have to experiment to see if you can have multiple orgasms
* You also have to experiment to see what is the most time you can wait after using niacin before orgasm and your most optimal time.
This link contains a list of others who have tried niacin.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=235.msg2958#msg2958 FenugreekFenugreek is popularly used as an herb and as a spice. There is currently no scientific research that can directly link this compound to POIS as there is little active research on fenugreek. Most research of the research focuses on using fenugreek to treat diabetes and has been found to enhance the uptake of plasma glucose in Type I diabetic patients
. Strangely, some have found symptomatic relief by taking fenugreek supplements. For more information there is a discussion board under hormones about fenugreek.
Link for fenugreek experience:
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1057.msg9548#msg9548
Members: Cornelius, Hurray, Shahnameh(nsf),Porke(nsf),Guthrie(nsf) Longwalkhome(nsf), John21(nsf), Vincentmarcus,Observer,.
bitu8489(nsf)
Dosage: Solaray – Fenugreek, 1240mg tablets, 15-20 seed perday soaked overnight and used in the morning.
Saw Palmetto
Saw palmetto is another herb used in alternative medicine for multiple illnesses. There is scientific evidence it helps with bph and could probably help with male baldness. Poisers that have used it have seen improvements in many of their symptoms. Extra information can be found using the link below.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1061.msg9577#msg9577
Relora
Some have found Relora, a herbal supplement, to immensely improve symptoms and, in one case, completely resolve POIS. It seems most that benefit from this supplement is within the first category of sufferers described earlier. It has been found to reduce brain fog, help restore concentration, reduce palpitations, and reduce anxiety. The dosage varies according to the individual. Some continuously take this supplement per the distributer’s instructions and others only take a dose before or after orgasm.
The mechanism of action is not known. However, the manufacturers claim that Relora reduces cortisol and thereby relieves stress. Based on the theoretical role of cortisol in POIS, the potential reduction of cortisol may be what leads to the relieving effects.
Members:
Tarkington, Limejuice, Pyropeach, Pantaloon,goingcrazy, nTonic, John21,tazzy, ad75
Dosage: Varies
Phospatidylseine
Phosphatidylserine (PS) is a phospholipid that naturally occurs in our cells. It is advertised to possess cognitive-enhancing effects. However, there are no significant scientific findings that support this claim. In 2003, the FDA stated that “there is no significant scientific agreement among qualified experts that a relationship exists between PS and reduced risk of dementia or cognitive dysfunction.” Interestingly, this supplement has relieved POIS symptoms to a small degree in terms of restoring concentration and clearing brain-fog in various sufferers. As with Relora, the optimum dosage varies according to the individual.
Manufacturers of PS openly claim it enhances communication between brain cells by increasing the number of receptor sites. They also make a number of other claims about the beneficial effects of PS on the brain, but they fail to present scientific evidence to back their claims. Brand used was Source Naturals – Phophatidyl Serine Matrix, 500mg tablets.
Members:
Limejuice,Pyropeach
Dosage: Varies
Garlic
Some forum members have been been having good success with Garlic. They chew gloves of garlic before or after orgasm. They feel an improvement in their symptoms immediately after chewing the garlic. Here is a quote from a pois sufferer who used garlic, "I began to take garlic cloves and the result was immediate... specially with the brain fog *AFTER* the orgasm. If you take them *BEFORE* you have less (-70,80%) POIS symptoms after O, at least in my case. And then, was Fenugreek´s time. Seriously, it´s amazing". Since garlic has such strong smell and taste some have tried to work around those properties by trying odourless garlic forms with no good results.When trying garlic you want to go with supplements that provides the garlic in its full form.
Members:
Observer, Vincent Marcus, Horizon
Dosage; Cloves of Garlic, 5000mg of Holland and barrett's garlic oil capsule.
Adderall
The popular add drug adderal is also one of the tool used in fighting pois. The drug is intended to help those with lack of attention focus but when normal people use it they get stimulant effect that helps them get their daily activities done much quicker. For those with pois, this drug is enticing because its stimulating and fatigue reducing effect.
Members:
Demografx, Nick_B_85(nsf)
Dosage:
Recommendation by doctor.
Vitamin B12
Vitamins B's play several role in the body including being important to brain functions and energy. It has been tried by several members with good results. Some of the theories behind the success of vitamin Bs are they help replenish brain neurotransmitters, they replace something lost after ejaculation and they help reduce excess histamine produced by the body.
This link provides forum members' experience with vitamin b's http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1059.msg9571#msg9571.
LINKS:
Bjim's NSF treatment summary, http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg201517#msg201517
Google website treatment summary,
http://sites.google.com/site/poiswebsite/test-page/successful-methods
