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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2320 on: January 17, 2021, 10:34:11 AM »


Just for clarification: Is this [your set of cognitive POIS symptoms] with or without your TRT usage? :-)


Both. With TRT/daytime sleep aids,  symptoms are drastically reduced. From suffering POIS agony for 4 days pre-TRT, to as little as hours today.

Pre-TRT, POIS symptom intensity was also far greater.

berlin1984, thanks, great question.
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2321 on: January 17, 2021, 08:14:15 PM »
Demo did you also have great success with TRT without the antihistamine sleep aids?

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2322 on: January 17, 2021, 08:58:06 PM »
I’ve been on TRT for 11 years now. It’s always been my primary treatment method. Early years without Benadryl or Tylenol worked well. “Great”? Maybe more so in the beginning years. I’m looking forward to 100% cure. Not sure I’ll find it in my lifetime (I’m in my senior years).
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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2323 on: January 17, 2021, 09:30:01 PM »
Thanks I trialed hCG monotherapy but failed due to high estradiol side effects like anxiety. I'm going to see about Testosterone therapy next and perhaps low dose hCG to maintain fertility once I have the Test dosage dialed in with estradiol under control. The energy I experienced at the beginning of the hCG therapy before estrogen got out of control was exciting.

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2324 on: January 17, 2021, 11:30:13 PM »
Best wishes, drop247!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2325 on: January 18, 2021, 11:39:00 PM »

My physical POIS symptoms are easier to describe than my cognitive POIS symptoms.

My physical symptoms: extreme exhaustion, dry fingertips

My cognitive symptoms:
the first day is usually the worst. My creative juices dry up. Nothing is exciting. I’m depressed, but in a way that’s difficult to describe. My emotions are flat. My decent sense of humor and my memory, concentration and my ability to smile, to appreciate beauty go right out the window. And the surreal symptom that’s most difficult to describe:




Just for clarification: Is this [your set of cognitive POIS symptoms] with or without your TRT usage? :-)


Both. With TRT/daytime sleep aids,  symptoms are drastically reduced. From suffering POIS agony for 4 days pre-TRT, to as little as hours today.

Pre-TRT, POIS symptom intensity was also far greater.

berlin1984, thanks, great question.

This is NOT my endorsement or recommendation for anyone else with POIS to try TRT! A good POIS treatment is between you and a trusted doctor. My preferred treatment can be unacceptably risky for many POISers.

10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2326 on: December 25, 2021, 03:43:27 AM »
Happy Christmas to all

Dr-pois.

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2327 on: December 25, 2021, 09:41:22 PM »





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To all Forum Members
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2328 on: February 06, 2022, 04:11:08 PM »
My physical POIS symptoms are easier to describe than my cognitive POIS symptoms.

My physical symptoms: extreme exhaustion, dry fingertips

My cognitive symptoms:
the first day is usually the worst. My creative juices dry up. Nothing is exciting. I’m depressed, but in a way that’s difficult to describe. My emotions are flat. My decent sense of humor and my memory, concentration and my ability to smile, to appreciate beauty go right out the window. And the surreal symptom that’s most difficult to describe:




Just for clarification: Is this [your set of cognitive POIS symptoms] with or without your TRT usage? :-)


Both. With TRT/daytime sleep aids,  symptoms are drastically reduced. From suffering POIS agony for 4 days pre-TRT, to as little as hours today.

Pre-TRT, POIS symptom intensity was also far greater.

berlin1984, thanks, great question.

This is NOT my endorsement or recommendation for anyone else with POIS to try TRT! A good POIS treatment is between you and a trusted doctor. My preferred treatment can be unacceptably risky for many POISers

Example: taking the testosterone prescribed by my endocrinologist - -
my sperm count went to 0.00

Yes, I am now *infertile*

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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2329 on: February 18, 2022, 09:43:01 AM »


It all started here on February 18th, 2007, when forum member John21 posted at our predecessor forum, the Naked Science Forum’s POIS thread.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.new#new

We would all still be there today, but the owner of the Naked Science Forum’s POIS thread would not allow us to conduct internal member fundrai$ing for what is now the 2022 POIS Research Study:
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3006.0

Million thanks, everyone - - old and new - - for making this the #1 forum on the internet for POIS!

I especially want to thank Quantum, my co-administrator, for being tremendously valuable and instrumental in raising greatly the level of scientific accomplishment - - including outreach to the medical community at large - in finding a solution to this misery we all call POIS!

Best wishes everyone for a Great Future in POIS discovery through forum teamwork!


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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2330 on: February 18, 2022, 11:25:45 AM »
Well said Demo! A big thank you is in order to you, Quantum, Berlin, every contributor who has posted, and every reader who is trying solve this mystery.  We hope that our strength and numbers continue to grow in our 16th year!

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2331 on: February 18, 2022, 02:30:20 PM »
Many thanks, Limejuice!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2332 on: February 18, 2022, 11:48:21 PM »

Well said Demo! A big thank you is in order to you, Quantum, Berlin, and Limejuice! , every contributor who has posted, and every reader who is trying solve this mystery.  We hope that our strength and numbers continue to grow in our 16th year!

Mod edit ;D
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2333 on: February 19, 2022, 10:53:22 PM »

Well said Demo! A big thank you is in order to you, Quantum, Limejuice, and berlin1984! , every contributor who has posted, and every reader who is trying solve this mystery.  We hope that our strength and numbers continue to grow in our 16th year!


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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Free Flow Discussion about POIS
« Reply #2334 on: February 23, 2022, 03:54:41 PM »

Well said Demo! A big thank you is in order to you, berlin1984, [Limejuice], and Quantum! , every contributor who has posted, and every reader who is trying solve this mystery.  We hope that our strength and numbers continue to grow in our 16th year!


Yet another mod edit ;D
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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business