wiped.

[Jon]

GNC 250mg. I take nearly 500. 2 of 3 times the flush wasnt strong the third I nearly passed out.

[sameer7777]

What do you mean by pass out
Do you feel sleepy after taking it
What side affects you can get with vitamins
Should I buy 250 Gnc with flush witout flush ??
If I take 250 I mean start taking 250 Gnc one does 1 tab of 250 can it make any diff
So is the diff in affects or side affects with or without flush
Sorry to mAny questions !!!!
Thankyou

[Vincent M]

Yes ive tried niacin but havnt yet posted about it because it has been inconsistent for me. I have also recently tried Benadryl but it did not seem to have worked effectively as niacin.

I wonder how combining niacin and benadryl might work? Last night I had 5 beers, 3 benadryl pills(25mg each), and 100mg of niacin, but I passed out before I tested the orgasm unfortuneately. I did orgasm twice in the morning and feel fine now about 2 hrs after waking up so I think the total combo of those things worked well for me and I believe the combination would work better if I had orgasmed at the correct time and if i had taken 100mg more of niacin.

[sameer7777]

 

[omen]

Yes ive tried niacin but havnt yet posted about it because it has been inconsistent for me. I have also recently tried Benadryl but it did not seem to have worked effectively as niacin.

I wonder how combining niacin and benadryl might work? Last night I had 5 beers, 3 benadryl pills(25mg each), and 100mg of niacin, but I passed out before I tested the orgasm unfortuneately. I did orgasm twice in the morning and feel fine now about 2 hrs after waking up so I think the total combo of those things worked well for me and I believe the combination would work better if I had orgasmed at the correct time and if i had taken 100mg more of niacin.

u feel fine because u orgasmed in the morning...thats the key...

[Jon]

Omen, Its very interested that you find a morning orgasm beneficial. I am thinking of trying it although it is risky business considering I feel my worst in the morning. It it does not go well it could set me back for weeks, I'm sur everyone can relate to a bad experience with that type of thing. Its great that it worked for you, Omen and I comment you for the information. Has anyone else tried a morning orgasm?

[omen]

I think pois is nothing but serotonin deficicency...

[Daniel]

I had my worst POIS attacks from morning orgasms. I think that everybody is different.

[omen]

I think pois is nothing but serotonin deficicency...

guys pls check this out...i think somehow pois is all about serotonin deficiency...http://www.livestrong.com/serotonin-deficiency/

[Jon]

I feel that serotonin could play a role, But the same could be said about dopamine and many other neurotransmitters..

One thing I havn't seen or or brought up in this forum is semen color. I have noticed that my semen has had a yellowish type shade since my problem has started and my ejactulation is also weak. Semen can also be 'watery' at times. The yellowish and weak ejaculation even if its the first time in weeks, and the watery semen especially if its more than once in a week.

Anybody else ?

[Jon]

Also, I am seeing a doctor. My constant symptoms are so very hard to research. The Niacin only helps a little bit, but at least it helps.

I am able to take any medication I suggest to this doctor. I have tried celexa and it made me numb. My doctor wants me to take abilify because my mental symptoms were initially dullness and trouble thinking but in the past year (8th year of POIS) I have developed an unexplained paranoia. To me if feels like I am unable to deal with any kind of sound, daily task, conversation without extreme discomfort, Like theres a threat and im in defense mode. Sure, it sounds like a pre-schiz type of deal but it fluctuates with my POIS and was positively affected by Niacin.

I just dont want to take an antipsychotic because thats some dangerous last resort stuff. Any suggestions ? Maybe norepinephrine inhibior. I really don't know !

[Daveman]

Sadly, Willem has finally been banned as a forum member. We have always made strenuous attempts to not deny any POISer in the world with participation in this Forum. Every ban decision has been made very painfully, but in the end, always contributed to the greater good of our community.

Willem has been recruiting members - for his for-profit venture - against agreements we had made and standard forum norms.

He has demonstrated a blatant lack of respect for the well being of the community and is ONLY interested in his “for profit venture”.

We are in the final stage of very important and real progress, and are working our butts off without profit with the real intention of the community in mind.

More dilution to another profit oriented community will only delay or stop any chance of finding a cure.

Many Thanks, everyone, for your continuing loyalty. The sad, divisive differences coming from profit, and selfish motives will become very apparent to everyone and we are very confident that reason - and common sense and most importantly:
G O O D  F A I T H - will prevail in the end.

As always,
Wishing you the best, and only for YOUR interests, not anyone else's.

demografx
and
Davemen

[Daveman]

Ali, I was reading your last post here:

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=168.msg3798#msg3798

And your profile information struct me! I know exactly what you mean, although I had suffered predominantly physical symptoms. But in the last little while BN (Before Niacin), I was beginning to get cognitive symptoms more predominantly and the POIS session began to change, going from long and physical to short and cognitive.

But for me the short and cognitive where worse. I suppose in retrospect they weren't really shorter, it just seemed like it because the heavy cognitive effects changed the proportions and made the physical symptoms seem like a piece of cake.

That day 2 can be murder! Then by day 3 or 4  it's gone and things return to normal.

But I feared even more to enter into "sex", the results were too great.

Thank Goodness, for niacin. It has brought me back to "almost normal". I'm at least three months now POIS free.

Niacin isn't perfect nor a cure, but I know it is the link to a cure.

[aalkaff]

I've been reading about this treatment for some time. Would you kindly describe or post a link how I can optimally begin to use niacin? I just purchased a GNC Niacin 500 (tablets, with flush).

By the way, I've started going to the gym five days a week for the last three weeks. My two main problems are self-control (avoiding sex, masturbation and NE) and handling the POIS downtime. I think the training is helping, i.e. staying longer than my usual 24-48 hours without O, and reducing the duration and intensity of POIS downtime. It's my bad that I'm not journalling all this, so I'm relying on my POIS-affected memory to notice the changes.

[mellivora]

Hi Ali,
I was surprised to read that the tablets you describe are the flush variety.Other 500mg tablets I have seen have been  the non-flush type. However, I googled yours and it seems you are correct. Most people who have taken the flushing type of Niacin have found that 200mg is sufficient to give them a flush so you might even consider taking half a tablet for your first try.

It is thought (based on people's experiences here) that it may be best to take the tablet on a relatively empty stomach to help ensure a flush (we don't yet know if the flush is definitely important - mixed reports have come in on this).

It does seem important to take the niacin BEFORE orgasm. Probably around 45mins to 1 hour before orgasm is a good guideline. Some people have said they try to orgasm as the flush subsides or just after (the time taken to get a flush after taking the tablet can vary from 5 minutes to 1 hour, perhaps dependent on how much food is in the stomach, time of day, type of tablet. Sometimes a flush doesn't happen depending on dose taken etc).

I should say that Niacin has not worked well or at all for me so far but it has worked for plenty of other people as you can see from the summary I have been compiling here:
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=235.0

Good luck!

on exercise: yes I think sometimes this can be a useful way of 'distracting' one's self from the urge to to O

[Daveman]

What niacin most seems to help are the cognitive effects AND that Yuck feeling that follows you around for 2 or 3 days.

I have never taken more than 150mg. I get a GOOD flush with 100mg and at least 3 hrs of previous fasting.

The flush feels like a sunburn, the face goes quite red and in many they can feel the heart beating in the head and face.

But as much as it sounds quite uncomfortable, it's not really all that bad, and passes quickly.

Perhaps the best would be to crush your 500mg tablet and divide the powder in three for the first shot.

I approach sex now with a totally different outlook. If you've had POIS since puberty this could be quite the experience!

Good luck!

[Daveman]

I had my worst POIS attacks from morning orgasms. I think that everybody is different.

Yes, I agree. I think in my case, I just prefer to sleep off the first 8 hours. So I try always to have them at night.

Most recently I decided to experiment and did something I would otherwise never do. First think in the morning, a niacin on empty stomach and orgasm 30 minutes after.

Hardly felt anything. Maybe light light POIS for the first 4 hrs, which faded throughout the day and nothing more.

[Ccconfucius]

yeah that sounds like the best time to use niacin, i bet that flush was real intense. 
i can have an orgasm in the morning without niacin and still be fine as long as i don't do more than one.

[aalkaff]

Hi Ali,
I was surprised to read that the tablets you describe are the flush variety.Other 500mg tablets I have seen have been  the non-flush type. However, I googled yours and it seems you are correct. Most people who have taken the flushing type of Niacin have found that 200mg is sufficient to give them a flush so you might even consider taking half a tablet for your first try.

It is thought (based on people's experiences here) that it may be best to take the tablet on a relatively empty stomach to help ensure a flush (we don't yet know if the flush is definitely important - mixed reports have come in on this).

It does seem important to take the niacin BEFORE orgasm. Probably around 45mins to 1 hour before orgasm is a good guideline. Some people have said they try to orgasm as the flush subsides or just after (the time taken to get a flush after taking the tablet can vary from 5 minutes to 1 hour, perhaps dependent on how much food is in the stomach, time of day, type of tablet. Sometimes a flush doesn't happen depending on dose taken etc).

I should say that Niacin has not worked well or at all for me so far but it has worked for plenty of other people as you can see from the summary I have been compiling here:
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=235.0

Good luck!

on exercise: yes I think sometimes this can be a useful way of 'distracting' one's self from the urge to to O

I did something stupid. Niacin is involved. Before verifying the dosage or waiting for the answer above, I went ahead and took one full Niacin 500mg tablet, relying on some vague recollection of reading somewhere on NSF about niacin associated with the number 1000. So I assumed that was the normal mg dosage, and 500mg would be a safe start. Well, the flush hit hard. Really hard. For a couple of hours. The next day, a skin allergic reaction in the form of rashes and hives started. It's been about a week since that one time of taking niacin. I still have rashes.

To counteract, I started ceasing any source of niacin from supplements, so I've stopped taking my daily multivitamins for a couple of days now. Zyrtec (Cetirizine) also helped with the itching, but I switched to Claritine (Loratadine) because the drowsiness caused by Zyrtec, combined with the POIS downtime, made me miss work the next day (in turn causing an extremely loathsome feeling of uselessness, guilt and overall negativity--my POIS tri-signature). However, Claritine was less effective but the itching is now sometimes bearable, at least. It'll hopefully go away soon. It also just happens that I'm going to start sort of a detox/cleansing diet tomorrow as part of my personal trainer programme. I hope that helps too.

Anyway, I now wonder if I actually have an allergic reaction to niacin regardless of dosage. As for whether niacin helped with POIS (I took it over one hour before O; when the flush was starting to subside a little), I recall no noticeable improvements. Perhaps niacin is not for me or maybe the dosage was too high--the system shock negated/reversed the intended benefits?

[aalkaff]

What niacin most seems to help are the cognitive effects AND that Yuck feeling that follows you around for 2 or 3 days.

I have never taken more than 150mg. I get a GOOD flush with 100mg and at least 3 hrs of previous fasting.

The flush feels like a sunburn, the face goes quite red and in many they can feel the heart beating in the head and face.

But as much as it sounds quite uncomfortable, it's not really all that bad, and passes quickly.

Perhaps the best would be to crush your 500mg tablet and divide the powder in three for the first shot.

I approach sex now with a totally different outlook. If you've had POIS since puberty this could be quite the experience!

Good luck!

Great. The O couldn't wait for your answer and I took five times a good dosage. I'm an I.D.I.O.T.