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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2017, 03:16:57 PM »
This has nothing to do with eggs as I avoid them but on the topic of weight. I have been gaining weight the past couple months simply by eating foods my body can handle.  I give a big credit to Goya beans (I eat black and red 1 can each a day =650 calories) and 4 yams a day.  I've been slowly gaining weight and have been noticing it.  Gained around 7-10 lbs so far and haven't measured in 2 weeks.

So for me it was eating a great deal of tolerable foods which I mainly credit to beans and yams.  Chicken might have also had something to do with it.
when you say yams are you saying sweet potatoes

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2017, 09:00:27 AM »
This has nothing to do with eggs as I avoid them but on the topic of weight. I have been gaining weight the past couple months simply by eating foods my body can handle.  I give a big credit to Goya beans (I eat black and red 1 can each a day =650 calories) and 4 yams a day.  I've been slowly gaining weight and have been noticing it.  Gained around 7-10 lbs so far and haven't measured in 2 weeks.

So for me it was eating a great deal of tolerable foods which I mainly credit to beans and yams.  Chicken might have also had something to do with it.
when you say yams are you saying sweet potatoes

Lol the place I shop at calls them yams but I think they are sweet potatoes.  They have brown skin and an orange interior.

Good thing is it's cheap calories.  I mix the sweet potatoes into the beans and chow down.  Microwave the sweet potatoes and just rinse the beans.
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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2017, 04:59:48 PM »
This has nothing to do with eggs as I avoid them but on the topic of weight. I have been gaining weight the past couple months simply by eating foods my body can handle.  I give a big credit to Goya beans (I eat black and red 1 can each a day =650 calories) and 4 yams a day.  I've been slowly gaining weight and have been noticing it.  Gained around 7-10 lbs so far and haven't measured in 2 weeks.

So for me it was eating a great deal of tolerable foods which I mainly credit to beans and yams.  Chicken might have also had something to do with it.
when you say yams are you saying sweet potatoes

Lol the place I shop at calls them yams but I think they are sweet potatoes.  They have brown skin and an orange interior.

Good thing is it's cheap calories.  I mix the sweet potatoes into the beans and chow down.  Microwave the sweet potatoes and just rinse the beans.
I am going to have to include those beans right away the next time i try AIP diet. I couldn't get  past the hunger,because my job requires a lot walking, even with sweet potatoes.

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2017, 05:31:28 PM »
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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2017, 02:05:51 AM »
This has nothing to do with eggs as I avoid them but on the topic of weight. I have been gaining weight the past couple months simply by eating foods my body can handle.  I give a big credit to Goya beans (I eat black and red 1 can each a day =650 calories) and 4 yams a day.  I've been slowly gaining weight and have been noticing it.  Gained around 7-10 lbs so far and haven't measured in 2 weeks.

So for me it was eating a great deal of tolerable foods which I mainly credit to beans and yams.  Chicken might have also had something to do with it.
when you say yams are you saying sweet potatoes

Lol the place I shop at calls them yams but I think they are sweet potatoes.  They have brown skin and an orange interior.

Good thing is it's cheap calories.  I mix the sweet potatoes into the beans and chow down.  Microwave the sweet potatoes and just rinse the beans.
I am going to have to include those beans right away the next time i try AIP diet. I couldn't get  past the hunger,because my job requires a lot walking, even with sweet potatoes.

Yeah I honestly don't know what I'd do without Goya black or red kidney beans.  I'd probably be laying in an alley somewhere thinking about POIS 24/7.  $1 here can get you 315 calories of goya canned beans, which is very good.

It's great not having to worry about O anymore but that worry has switched to diet which is hard.  But at least I have more control over what I eat as opposed to having an O.  I'm basically trading food for O's at this point.

It's also nice to see my body "filling up" healthily and noticeably.  I'm sure most of us are aware of that skinny look.

They say not to eat beans on AIP for confusing reasons (phytic? acid and hard digestion) but I find them to be very helpful and fulfilling.  I think it's best to ignore that thought although beans aren't the easiest to digest.  My digestion is perfect with them and I get no cramps/gas.  However, if I get painfully glutened, the beans will cause pain because of longer/harder digestion in a compromised intestine.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 02:15:19 AM by Going less Crazy »
My POIS managed with Diet (@ diet that 100% manages my pois)Believe my POIS stems from inflammation in the gut. O = neuro POIS from inflammation from the gut

Current supps: microdose of zyrtec and gaia liquid olive leaf extract for sleep. Micro astragalus and 1tsp ev olive oil for energy .

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2017, 09:53:44 PM »
Hi Going less crazy. Also like and tolerate red kidney beans well, will also try the black ones if I find them at the store. At first I thought you were referring to a kind of beans called 'goya beans' but only now I'm realizing you are probably talking about a brand called goya. Is there something special about beans from that brand vs. others? So you just rinse and eat them without heating/cooking? Thanks for sharing.

I like red kidney beans and will also try the black ones. Easy to prepare yet not unhealthy and tasty at the same time. Just like eggs, they have been a tolerable and nice extension to my diet so far.

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2017, 11:00:25 PM »
Hi Going less crazy. Also like and tolerate red kidney beans well, will also try the black ones if I find them at the store. At first I thought you were referring to a kind of beans called 'goya beans' but only now I'm realizing you are probably talking about a brand called goya. Is there something special about beans from that brand vs. others? So you just rinse and eat them without heating/cooking? Thanks for sharing.

I like red kidney beans and will also try the black ones. Easy to prepare yet not unhealthy and tasty at the same time. Just like eggs, they have been a tolerable and nice extension to my diet so far.

Goya and Bush's beans are good and very well tolerated by myself.  Other unpopular brands have caused problems in me before maybe because of some additive or whatever.  For example, shop rite brand beans caused me pain before.  So the brand Goya and Bush beans are good.

They come canned in water.  All I do is get a colander and throw em in there and rinse with hot water for about 30 seconds.  Trust me the colander helps a lot.  So it's like a minute to prepare and very cheap and easy to eat.
My POIS managed with Diet (@ diet that 100% manages my pois)Believe my POIS stems from inflammation in the gut. O = neuro POIS from inflammation from the gut

Current supps: microdose of zyrtec and gaia liquid olive leaf extract for sleep. Micro astragalus and 1tsp ev olive oil for energy .

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2017, 04:46:07 PM »
Short update: have been eating about 40-50 eggs during the last 30 days, at least 1 daily. So far there are no noticeable differences but as Bulbo suggested it takes time so I'll continue in the same way and report back after another 30 days.

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2017, 08:19:49 PM »
Update #2 (2 months): I've been eating two overeasy eggs each day plus or minus a handful of days. I'll try to break down my observations:
1) my physical speech symptoms and and dysarthria (speech muscle or lip/tongue related) have become significantly less of an issue.
2) my brain fog and some of the dysphasia still exist ( finding words, memory) but are mostly reduced with 12 laps in a pool at high exertion (15 min) every other day. This part is critical. It also improves tiredness.
3) other physical symptoms have noticeably improved in general.

For those interested, I've started pulling together a thread relating choline (eggs), betaine (beets and a choline derivative), and the methyl cycle into a hypothesis to be tested. (http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2486.0)



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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2017, 11:12:43 AM »
My intake is about 80 per month. Hard to tell, because TRT has been my personal wonder-drug since 2009, so it's hard for me to measure what the high egg consumption rate is doing for me. But it's certainly not hurting my POIS! Glad to see this thread's popularity -- 3,569 I mean  3,579 views. But who's counting?


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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2017, 09:19:51 AM »
I ate two eggs after orgasm and felt good for an hour or two, now symptoms are slowly coming back, today are particularly strong because I am aslo sleep deprived.

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2017, 07:26:55 PM »
What do you think is the science behind eggs

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2017, 09:46:22 PM »
I think eggs are a good source for cholesterol and proteins... Neuron are made of cholesterol derivatives and proteins.
I started eating eggs after reading Gcrisp's post on naked scientists forum....He acquired pois at 50 yrs of age after being put on statins which lower blood cholesterol.He reported that he felt better after starting eggs. Therefore i think cholesterol supplementation is the mechanism behind eggs.

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2017, 11:51:27 AM »
I tried last week eggs for POIS but their effect lasted few hours while I have POIS for days, better than nothing however.

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2017, 11:11:04 PM »
Hi Unvers
Eggs cant be taken to stop a POIS episode. Eggs slowly removes depression, improves cognition, it reduces pois duration, it stopped nocturnal emission for me....I have been taking eggs for 2 yrs 8 months. It takes lot of time, but from my personal opinion i think eggs are the best option
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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2017, 07:26:30 AM »
Hi Unvers
Eggs cant be taken to stop a POIS episode. Eggs slowly removes depression, improves cognition, it reduces pois duration, it stopped nocturnal emission for me....I have been taking eggs for 2 yrs 8 months. It takes lot of time, but from my personal opinion i think eggs are the best option

Ok, I prefer to abstain to avoid POIS but the few times I will have an orgasm I will choose eggs to have a relief, eating many eggs every day can be harmful to health I think.

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2017, 01:58:30 PM »
Update #3:  I've declared sufficient success with eggs (choline source) to move on with the next steps as of a week or so ago.  General observations:
1) Choline appears to clear speech and muscle/tongue and lip swelling-like issues around the mouth as well as irritability as a function of pois. 

2) I have several of the genes that limit choline and folate absorption.  these seem likely to play a roll in my pois. (23&me + promethease)

3) I tried adding beets (betaine, which is a derivative of choline) into the diet.  Without choline, beets addressed the brain fog side of things, but not the items that choline addressed.

4) when I had too much choline supplement in one day, I appeared to see nose drainage and some of the symptoms that other pois suffers see.  They may have the opposite issue, which is too much rather than too little choline.  Benedryl seems to help some people though I haven't tried- I would bet that the anticholergenic effects of Benedryl could address those with that type of issue.  Just a guess though with very little proof.

5) I've started taking 1/day simple B Complex vitamins (with methylfolate - Thorne brand) and adding in 1/day choline (also Thorne). I add a second choline the evening after O as I take the others in the morning.  For the last week, I have had clear (read almost no noticeable) symptoms.  I will report back in a few weeks to indicate if this is still the case (since one week is not sufficient time to judge and some people have crushing fatigue after 1 week on B vitamins).  See this chain for more info (http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1059.msg9571#msg9571)
 
thanks,
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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2017, 09:41:06 PM »
Hello guys
I have been searching for relation between serum cholesterol level and depression and i found these articles in google scholar... I felt that i should share these
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/62/1/1.short
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0447.1997.tb09622.x/full
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0140673693925569
There are many other similar articles in google scholar

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2017, 06:38:20 AM »
I am eating a thing called here in Italy "zabaione" that contains eggs, flour and sugar, it's helping me with recovering from yesterday.

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Re: Eggs for POIS
« Reply #59 on: September 02, 2017, 10:02:29 PM »
Update #3:  I've declared sufficient success with eggs (choline source) to move on with the next steps as of a week or so ago.  General observations:
1) Choline appears to clear speech and muscle/tongue and lip swelling-like issues around the mouth as well as irritability as a function of pois. 

2) I have several of the genes that limit choline and folate absorption.  these seem likely to play a roll in my pois. (23&me + promethease)

3) I tried adding beets (betaine, which is a derivative of choline) into the diet.  Without choline, beets addressed the brain fog side of things, but not the items that choline addressed.

4) when I had too much choline supplement in one day, I appeared to see nose drainage and some of the symptoms that other pois suffers see.  They may have the opposite issue, which is too much rather than too little choline.  Benedryl seems to help some - I would bet that the anticholergenic effects of Benedryl could address those with that type of issue.  Just a guess though with very little proof.

5) I've started taking 1/day simple B Complex vitamins (with methylfolate - Thorne brand) and adding in 1/day choline (also Thorne). I add a second choline the evening after O as I take the others in the morning.  For the last week, I have had clear (read almost no noticeable) symptoms.  I will report back in a few weeks to indicate if this is still the case (since one week is not sufficient time to judge and some people have crushing fatigue after 1 week on B vitamins).  See this chain for more info (http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1059.msg9571#msg9571)
 
thanks,
TT

Very interesting results, TT. A couple of questions:
1) Have you experienced any difference between eggs, CDP-Choline, Alpha-GPC, or other choline sources.

4) Do you feel any muscle tension when you have too much choline. too much choline can usually be compensated very quickly by taking a small dose of racetame, such as piracetame or aniracetame.