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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #480 on: December 05, 2019, 10:31:24 PM »
Mesterolone is not considered an androgen replacement therapy drug. Rather it's an agonist to the androgen receptor. It's interesting we'll see what it does.

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« Reply #481 on: December 06, 2019, 03:54:33 AM »
I think we need more people to try T3 as Swell said it cures his POIS by 100% maybe its a better option than testosterone

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« Reply #482 on: December 06, 2019, 04:04:03 AM »
He also said it fixes the speech and cognitve problems which is something trt doesn't seem to do

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« Reply #483 on: December 06, 2019, 08:43:34 AM »
Is there anyone who uses testosterone who reports a 100% recovery?

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« Reply #484 on: December 08, 2019, 02:38:42 PM »
I'm dumping this link here as well.

Low Testosterone and ANS: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2695.msg32116#msg32116

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #485 on: December 13, 2019, 03:06:05 PM »

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« Reply #486 on: December 13, 2019, 03:43:07 PM »
You guys see this new article?:  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221444201930453X#bib1
Yes we did post about it on this forum. I encourage people to talk to an endocrinologist about this to further support this paper.

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« Reply #487 on: December 13, 2019, 04:33:06 PM »
You guys see this new article?:  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221444201930453X#bib1
Read this thread to keep up to date with articles or to post new ones in the comments:

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3127.0

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« Reply #488 on: December 13, 2019, 09:46:34 PM »
So it doesn't work for everyone, interesting. Well I talked to the Egyptian doctor and he recommended 25mg Mesterolone. He said I should try testosterone before hCG, because he thinks testosterone is safer. He did say that as long as I don't pass the 3 months mark I'm good on fertility issues so we'll see.
I asked my urologist. I also thought it would be ok to use TRT for a few weeks and if you stop you will produce testosterone again. But my urologist said it will not recover. Once you start TRT there is no way back. At least that is what my urologist said. And he is seeing some POIS patients.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #489 on: December 26, 2019, 09:27:58 PM »
I’ve experimented a lot with Benadryl to force sleep in early POIS.

It works, but this time I *didn’t* force any daytime sleep.

I now think it’s better to go through a little POIS than to sleep through much of it and then worry about the aftermath, i.e., shaking off significant grogginess.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2019, 12:30:28 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #490 on: February 03, 2020, 07:33:19 PM »
This time, I experienced only 1 day of very mild symptoms (4 horrible days pre-TRT, then usually <2 mild days post-TRT). I attribute that to “extra” TRT plus forced extra sleep via Benadryl. Not recommending to anyone.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2020, 12:19:30 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #491 on: February 03, 2020, 08:12:18 PM »
Has TRT helped anyones depression and anxiety related to POIS?

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« Reply #492 on: February 03, 2020, 08:48:17 PM »
brainfogfun, TRT at first had a mood-lifting effect. Hard to tell the standalone TRT effect  these days because I’m also on an SSRI (Lexapro).
« Last Edit: February 03, 2020, 08:50:33 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #493 on: February 17, 2020, 09:41:46 PM »
After 10 years of somewhat successfully treating my POIS, and 40+ years of living with this dreadful condition, I’m now settled in to this protocol - unless new research convinces me to try something else.

• TRT (testosterone patches) daily, 365 days/year, 2-4mg each evening

• TRT triple dose on “Day Zero” - - the day of POIS onset

• Benadryl as needed on “Day Zero” - - which forces “extra” sleep (and more rapid recovery)

Result?

• 1 day - or less- of moderate POIS

vs.

• 4 days of severe POIS for most of my life
« Last Edit: February 17, 2020, 09:45:35 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #494 on: March 07, 2020, 02:35:08 PM »


• TRT triple dose (=8mg Androderm this morning) on “Day Zero” - - the day of POIS onset

• Benadryl (=50mg this morning) as needed on “Day Zero” - - which forces “extra” sleep (and more rapid recovery)

Today: after 10 years’ steady POIS protocol, it’s about

80% successful...

...for me.

I’m not recommending this to anyone else. We’re all different.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2020, 02:12:56 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #495 on: March 08, 2020, 12:53:48 PM »
Benadryl on it's own is quite effective against POIS. How much effect do you chalk up to the testosterone replacement therapy? I had my total testosterone checked recently and it was normal-high.

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« Reply #496 on: March 08, 2020, 08:58:05 PM »
TRT is the single major ingredient in my therapy.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #497 on: March 14, 2020, 10:34:36 PM »


This is what my TRT POIS therapy looks like. Each and every evening (365 days/year) I place 2mg patches - -
that you see in the photo above - - on my upper arms and/or thighs. When POIS attacks me, I increase the dosage.

For the 10 years I’ve been doing this, it’s been with a doctor’s prescription and supervision, either an endocrinologist or primary care physician.

Be careful, I lost my sperm count, probably because of my POIS therapy.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2020, 11:25:20 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #498 on: April 05, 2020, 09:53:47 AM »
I am 20 years old.I am facing pois from 4 years.My testosterone levels (total t) are 267ng/dl.I have not money to visit professional doctors.Someone plz guide me thoroughly. Are my testosterone levels normal? If not then what should I do???

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Re: Testosterone
« Reply #499 on: April 05, 2020, 10:42:08 AM »


This is what my TRT POIS therapy looks like. Each and every evening (365 days/year) I place 2mg patches - -
that you see in the photo above - - on my upper arms and/or thighs. When POIS attacks me, I increase the dosage.

For the 10 years I’ve been doing this, it’s been with a doctor’s prescription and supervision, either an endocrinologist or primary care physician.

Be careful, I lost my sperm count, probably because of my POIS therapy.

Doesn't hcg continue sperm production for those taking exogenous T?