Testosterone

[demografx]

No. I’ll ask on my next blood test

[demografx]

My 10 fingertips dry up, become numb in POIS. Drives me berserk but I don’t know why! Am I the only one?

[demografx]

Interesting TRT chat started by Muon’s new POIS article posting:
https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3127.msg31950#msg31950

[demografx]

Cross-posted from Muon’s POIS Paper Archive thread:

''Treatment was initiated with hCG 1500IU injected subcutaneously three times per week. At six-week follow-up his symptoms had resolved completely, and he had discontinued use of alprazolam. He ejaculated more frequently, and experienced no weakness, anxiety, brain fog, or malaise afterwards. He noted improved mood, overall energy, and libido. Blood tests showed robust levels of total testosterone at 952 ng/dl and free T (direct) at 2.8 ng/dl. LH and FSH were below threshold limits. He reported this was the first time since he was 16y that he could experience orgasm without negative physical or emotional consequences afterwards. At six months of follow-up he continued hCG treatment, was happy, and masturbated several times per month. He still described mild POIS symptoms immediately following orgasm, but these resolved within 12 h and were not bothersome. Importantly, he no longer experienced dread with anticipated sexual activity.''

At six-week follow up his symptoms had resolved completely.
At six months of follow up he described mild POIS symptoms.

Did he stop doing hCG injections after the six-week follow up and continued after the 6-month follow up or did he use it all the time during these 6 months?

At age 25, I worry about his fertility! After TRT, my sperm count went to 0.00, presumably because of my TRT.

I’m not familiar with hCG, if it has the same downside risk.

I already had grown adult children. But this guy has his whole life ahead of him!

[demografx]

They mentioned in the paper that they decided to use hCG instead of TRT because the patient wished to keep his fertility and keep his testicular size.

Thanks, Nas, I’d like to keep the fertility warning up above as a reminder - - to young POISers reading this Testosterone thread - -  about the risk associated with TRT.

[Muon]

Did you ever use SSRI's demo? If so how do you respond to them?

[demografx]

I respond TOO well! But I’m afraid I’m hooked for life: every time I try to quit I end up crying in the elevator

My current SSRI: Lexapro

[demografx]

Started with Prozac in 1989. Changed my life. Rather than a huge positive effect, SSRI’s simply enable me to function without occasionally falling into a “deep, dark pit” of depression, which was often the case prior to 1989.

[Muon]

That's what I thought. I think you could have increased your brain BDNF. Waldinger has written something about it here:

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2983.msg31533#msg31533

[Nas]

SSRI's personally did very little. Other than make you artificially happy. I was still brain foggy, socially dysfunctional, cognitively impaired, zero motivation, etc.

[demografx]

That's what I thought.

Why?

[demografx]

SSRI's personally did very little. Other than make you artificially happy. I was still brain foggy, socially dysfunctional, cognitively impaired, zero motivation, etc.

Same here. Main benefit to me was helping my out-of-POIS lows.

[Nas]

SSRI's personally did very little. Other than make you artificially happy. I was still brain foggy, socially dysfunctional, cognitively impaired, zero motivation, etc.

Same here. Main benefit to me was helping my out-of-POIS lows.

Yeah, just so much psychological damage. Even when I'll fix my POIS (I haven't yet) I'll still have to deal with all the trauma I accumulated over the years under POIS.

[Nas]

So demo you mentioned that you had a friend who used TRT and it didn't work for him for POIS?

[demografx]

Correct.

[Nas]

So it doesn't work for everyone, interesting. Well I talked to the Egyptian doctor and he recommended 25mg Mesterolone. He said I should try testosterone before hCG, because he thinks testosterone is safer. He did say that as long as I don't pass the 3 months mark I'm good on fertility issues so we'll see.

[demografx]

Personally, I would get a 2nd opinion on the 3-months.

[Nas]

Personally, I would get a 2nd opinion on the 3-months.

Why?

[Nas]

Well he didn't describe it as a safety net, he prescribed it to me for two week then I'll report back. So perhaps it's a more or less situation. Plus Mesterolone mechanism of action is different than Testosterone.

[demografx]

I removed my comment. I know nothing about Mesterolome.