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Lihua

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my life is destroyed
« on: May 25, 2022, 06:11:16 PM »
I always study hard and plan to get a PhD degree in USA. POIS destroy everything. I have to be single in my life and live like a mouse. I am just a piece of shit.
all Chinese can send me a personal message, I have a wechat group. There are doctors researching POIS in Guangzhou, Beijing, Harbin.

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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2022, 06:15:32 PM »
Now my life is ruined. I don't have the courage to bear the pressure during my doctoral study. I don't have the courage to stay away from the places I know
all Chinese can send me a personal message, I have a wechat group. There are doctors researching POIS in Guangzhou, Beijing, Harbin.

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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2022, 09:26:22 PM »
Now my life is ruined. I don't have the courage to bear the pressure during my doctoral study. I don't have the courage to stay away from the places I know

Hang on, there Lihua.
First, abstain as much as you can, and also, try to find a method that at least reduces a part of your symptoms.  Did you try any method in the POIS Types Chart, at https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2338.msg19448#msg19448 ?
There are some very accessible ones, like using niacin, or using fenugreek and garlic.  Take a look at the chart.

And try to get as much sleep as you can, it helps a lot. 
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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2022, 11:44:34 PM »
None of them help.
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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2022, 09:06:33 AM »
None of them help.
So abstain as much as possible, avoid any imagery or porn or real life encounter that would trigger a NE,  eat healthy food only.  Also, target your worst symptom and find something to lower its intensity.   

It looks like desenz had worsen your symptoms.  Hopefully, after stopping it, you may gradually return to previous symptoms, in the next months. 

There are also many supplements not mentioned in the POIS types chart that may be beneficial.  For example, Moducare Sterinol Immune System Support is great for me, even if it is not part of my pre-pack ( Back in 2015, I had chosen not to use it regularly because it is more expensive.. now I use it more often).
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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2022, 07:53:18 AM »
Now my life is ruined. I don't have the courage to bear the pressure during my doctoral study. I don't have the courage to stay away from the places I know

Lihua, you can do it. I know how you feel, I recently started a PhD in Astrophysics and I know the pressure is going to affect me, because people with POIS seem generally unable to physically handle stress as well as healthy people (not surprising, if our bodies are already overwhelmed with whatever is going on in us), but even if the first months are more stressful, things will slowly settle and there won't be as much pressure later on. We have to fight through the hard times to keep the good things we have in life, and to find happiness and success despite everything. Your future self will be proud and thankful if you do it, and regretful and depressed if you don't.

It's going to be more difficult for us than for normal people who don't have any health issue, but it will be more rewarding for the same reason, and we will have something to feel proud and accomplished about. It's not impossible to abstain of any sexual activity forever, there are people who live their whole lives in celibacy for religious reasons, so why wouldn't we be able to do it if we know that continuing with sexual activity will probably keep slowly destroying our bodies and what is left of our health?

Stay strong and don't give up. You can study your PhD. And you don't have to live your life alone like a mouse either. I have a boyfriend who understands what happens to me and accepts that we just can't have sex, and we will only do it when we want to have children. You can find someone too, whether it's someone who understands what is going on, or someone asexual, or someone who is willing to have an open relationship to satisfy their needs, whatever works for you. And you can have friends, the world is full of wonderful people you would love to meet. Single people can also have a fruitful happy social life, being single doesn't mean being alone. Life is precious and we only get one, we have to enjoy all the beautiful things we still have and not dwell in misery feeling sad over what we don't. Nobody has everything in life anyway, we are all wishing we had something that we don't. And we never know when a cure will be found, it's always possible that in a few years we will all be living happy healthy lives. And if that happens, we will be much happier if we now do all that is in our power to carry on with our lives and accomplish something meaningful.

I'm always here if you need to talk. I don't know you, but I think you're stronger and more capable than you believe. I'm sending you a hug from the other side of the world :)
26-year-old Spanish woman with POIS symptoms for the last 13 years.
Suffering from exercise intolerance since April 2020.
My case thread, with medical tests results.

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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2022, 07:20:17 PM »
thank you for your encouragement. :)
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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2022, 10:31:41 PM »

I recently started a PhD in Astrophysics.





« Last Edit: May 27, 2022, 10:34:55 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2022, 08:22:19 AM »
I recently started a PhD in Astrophysics.


Thank you very much, Demo! We'll see how it goes, I would save the congratulations for when I manage to finish it, if my brain doesn't explode in the process, which so far I think might happen  ;D

thank you for your encouragement. :)

You're welcome Lihua, I wish you the best of luck! There are always going to be hard moments, but the important thing is to keep pushing forward even when everything seems impossible :)
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Suffering from exercise intolerance since April 2020.
My case thread, with medical tests results.

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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2022, 05:22:41 AM »
Lihua, do you have any issues with your gut, intestines, digestion or gasses? Excema? hard stools, constipation, bloating, skin issues, food allergies, floaters in the eye etcetera? Any symptoms that arrives after eating specific foods or too much food? Yellow stools, thin stools?  I've been having pois for decades and it's just the last year that I have become aware of how much the digestion affects the pois state! For me its an enourmous improvement when going on a low-sensitive food diet (its a specific list without grains animal proteins, dairy, grains, fodmap, coffee, low histamine, low lectin, no nuts/muschroom etc). bone broth is good, but should probably be avoided at the start because of potentional hight histamine content. Stay vegan but only specific vegetables low on histamin, fodmap, lectines and anything that is known for irritating the gut. This is sooo important!

To further help the intestines:
1. Be active, walk, run, jump. Good for bowel movements and blood circulation. I belive many pois symptoms are highly exacerbated by blood pooling.
2. Drink alot water (alot and regulary, never become dry in mouth). Where does the water go? To the intestines!!
3. Take some vitamin C (1-6 grams a day, ph-neutral or liposomal)
4. Avoiding orgasm/pois stimulating thoughts (start inflammation in the gut).
5. Have a good sleep (no screen time 2 hours before bed, go to bed 10-11 pm). Go out in the sun in the morning.
6. Add probiotica after the symptoms has been reduced for a period of some weeks. Dont take it in the beginning!
7. Eat smaller meals many times a day instead of a few bigger. Just drink water/tea between 7pm to 10 am (extend the intermittant fast when the symptoms are worse - 5pm to twelve noon )

In severe cases of intestinal issues, do a water fast for 48 hours. You could add some vegetable juice and herbal tea if you feel that a water fast is too difficult for you.

Optional:  Even infra red light therapy on the whole stommach seems to have a good effect - it might be healing the gut inflammation (but probably not nessecary)!

This is a low expensive protocol (exept from the optional infra red light therapy) and easy to follow!

Some examples of approved food: Carrot/cauliflower/artichoke/broccoli/asparagus (steemed/boiles/grates), green leafy vegetables (except from ruccola), coconut milk/cream/fat, millet, most herbs/hermal teas, carrot juice, sea salt, nettle. Some days I just mix some of this together in a bowl (warm or cold) and add sea salt, some fres herbs and pour coconut milk over. Taste good. I can eat only this for many days/weeks until all pois symptoms is gone (inflammation feeling, headache, skin issues, dry esyes etc). Remember your intestines might be VERY sensitive and leaky in the beginning. BUT REMEMBER! By just having one cup of coffee, aubergine, zuccini, apple, banana, cucumber (yes be careful of cucumber too) milk, egg, whey protein, soy or some canned fish (canned tuna is extreemely high in histamine, I ate one small can and was out for 2 weeks!!!) could crash your intestines immediately and your back to square one! Stay on the safe food list for some days/weeks and I'm sure you will see improvements!

So for me: Healing the intestines = lower pois symptoms!.

Cheating the protocol in a sensitive state = back to pois symptoms.

Cheating after some weeks on the protocol = Less or no symtpoms, even after orgasm.

Chetaing after one year of the protocol = I have faith. Not there yet!
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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2022, 01:02:29 PM »
I recently started a PhD in Astrophysics.


Thank you very much, Demo! We'll see how it goes, I would save the congratulations for when I manage to finish it, if my brain doesn't explode in the process, which so far I think might happen  ;D


IronFeather, sorry but i cannot do as you ask & save the congratulations!

I’m too excited for ya!!!
:) :) :)

AND…I THOUGHT YOU NEEDED A *BIGGER* CONGRATULATORY GIF!
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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2022, 06:43:58 PM »
I was diagnosed with serious SIBO three months ago. Since then, I have taken probiotics. Now my stool has formed and digestion is obviously better than before, but it seems that this has only about 30% effect on my POIS
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Re: my life is destroyed
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2022, 02:44:25 AM »
But don't you think that for such statements and beliefs to work a healthy brain is necessary in our cases the region of the brain necessary for giving us hope remains numb or is disfunctioning and nothing will ever work except....