Warrior's Journal (My POIS Protocol)

[OG]

Do you also consume the garlic after an O, or just before?

Also, how many cloves of garlic do you consume?

Thanks for the info.

[Warrior]

Do you also consume the garlic after an O, or just before?

Also, how many cloves of garlic do you consume?

Thanks for the info.

Ideally I take the fenugreek and garlic at least 40 minutes before hand. But it works just as effectively it seems if taken afterwards, the only difference is that you might have to "wait" for the fenugreek and garlic to work if taken afterwards, where you might feel a POIS comeup.

Just half a clove, minced. You don't need too much otherwise you'll smell. In saying that, for your first time I would do an entire clove just to have the maximum possible effect. 1 clove before AND after. (if the clove is massive, then 0.5 clove, etc)

[Warrior]

18/07/22

Going to be going gluten-free for 2 weeks. Day 1 done & dusted.

Going to see if it has any significant effect on my POIS. Currently, I can ejaculate as many times as I want with fenugreek & garlic and still live a "decent" life however I do find that my mood (which can create social anxiety at times), motivation for life, and energy is not ideal compared to abstaining.

Just to clarify, my POIS was chronic before I found fenugreek and garlic: chronic anxiety, fatigue, and brain-fog. The fenugreek and garlic pretty much stopped all of those chronic symptoms, the difference is/was absolute night and day.

I was gluten-free when I first tested fenugreek and garlic, and I can't remember if my motivation, energy, and mood was effected like it is today without the gluten-free.

[hurray]

however I do find that my mood (which can create social anxiety at times), motivation for life, and energy is not ideal compared to abstaining.

Even "normal" people report feeling different following an O, especially when they happen frequently. The sudden release of dopamine, prolactin, oxytocin, endorphins, vasopressin etc has a significant non-POIS effect on most people. Men are commonly reported to feel sleepy after an O.

I don't think it will ever be possible for us to be completely unaffected by having an O, but that just puts us in the same boat as most other humans.

[demografx]

however I do find that my mood (which can create social anxiety at times), motivation for life, and energy is not ideal compared to abstaining.

Even "normal" people report feeling different following an O, especially when they happen frequently. The sudden release of dopamine, prolactin, oxytocin, endorphins, vasopressin etc has a significant non-POIS effect on most people. Men are commonly reported to feel sleepy after an O.

I don't think it will ever be possible for us to be completely unaffected by having an O, but that just puts us in the same boat as most other humans.

Very interesting. Maybe EVERYONE
“has POIS”, we POISers just have the most extreme form!

[Warrior]

however I do find that my mood (which can create social anxiety at times), motivation for life, and energy is not ideal compared to abstaining.

Even "normal" people report feeling different following an O, especially when they happen frequently. The sudden release of dopamine, prolactin, oxytocin, endorphins, vasopressin etc has a significant non-POIS effect on most people. Men are commonly reported to feel sleepy after an O.

I don't think it will ever be possible for us to be completely unaffected by having an O, but that just puts us in the same boat as most other humans.

Yeah I agree with you generally speaking. I still sense I am experiencing mild or subtle POIS effect, different to what an average joe would experience. Can't remember if I felt any different when I was gluten-free, so I'm just double checking!

[Warrior]

however I do find that my mood (which can create social anxiety at times), motivation for life, and energy is not ideal compared to abstaining.

Even "normal" people report feeling different following an O, especially when they happen frequently. The sudden release of dopamine, prolactin, oxytocin, endorphins, vasopressin etc has a significant non-POIS effect on most people. Men are commonly reported to feel sleepy after an O.

I don't think it will ever be possible for us to be completely unaffected by having an O, but that just puts us in the same boat as most other humans.

Very interesting. Maybe EVERYONE
“has POIS”, we POISers just have the most extreme form!

There is a lot of eastern literature on how excess ejaculation drains the "life force energy" and "chi", depleting the man of his most powerful resource. One of my favourite authors David Deida dedicates an entire chapter to this idea, and the importance of ejaculation being consciously converted or chosen. https://deida.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/BK00906-interior-pages-44.pdf

Theres a tonne of interesting philosophy on the concept, a lot of which dates back centuries. This article has a great summation of the history. https://www.justinpatrickpierce.com/post/the-origins-of-seminal-retention

It seems like POIS is a chronic form of the "normal" effects of excess ejaculation.

[Hopeoneday]

Man, wery simple solution, do not eyaculate exscess and
woila, you are pois free.
I still didin,t meet a man who is near death from 1 eyaculation.

[Warrior]

Man, wery simple solution, do not eyaculate exscess and
woila, you are pois free.
I still didin,t meet a man who is near death from 1 eyaculation.

Lol it's obviously a very nuanced subject.

[hurray]

however I do find that my mood (which can create social anxiety at times), motivation for life, and energy is not ideal compared to abstaining.

Even "normal" people report feeling different following an O, especially when they happen frequently. The sudden release of dopamine, prolactin, oxytocin, endorphins, vasopressin etc has a significant non-POIS effect on most people. Men are commonly reported to feel sleepy after an O.

I don't think it will ever be possible for us to be completely unaffected by having an O, but that just puts us in the same boat as most other humans.

Yeah I agree with you generally speaking. I still sense I am experiencing mild or subtle POIS effect, different to what an average joe would experience. Can't remember if I felt any different when I was gluten-free, so I'm just double checking!

But of course, average joes don't think too much about how they feel after an O. We know we have POIS, so we notice any small changes in our mental/physical wellbeing after an O.

[hurray]

however I do find that my mood (which can create social anxiety at times), motivation for life, and energy is not ideal compared to abstaining.

Even "normal" people report feeling different following an O, especially when they happen frequently. The sudden release of dopamine, prolactin, oxytocin, endorphins, vasopressin etc has a significant non-POIS effect on most people. Men are commonly reported to feel sleepy after an O.

I don't think it will ever be possible for us to be completely unaffected by having an O, but that just puts us in the same boat as most other humans.

Very interesting. Maybe EVERYONE
“has POIS”, we POISers just have the most extreme form!

Yes, it's possible that a lot of people have POIS on a sliding scale, but it's too mild for most people to notice.

[hurray]

however I do find that my mood (which can create social anxiety at times), motivation for life, and energy is not ideal compared to abstaining.

Even "normal" people report feeling different following an O, especially when they happen frequently. The sudden release of dopamine, prolactin, oxytocin, endorphins, vasopressin etc has a significant non-POIS effect on most people. Men are commonly reported to feel sleepy after an O.

I don't think it will ever be possible for us to be completely unaffected by having an O, but that just puts us in the same boat as most other humans.

Very interesting. Maybe EVERYONE
“has POIS”, we POISers just have the most extreme form!

There is a lot of eastern literature on how excess ejaculation drains the "life force energy" and "chi", depleting the man of his most powerful resource. One of my favourite authors David Deida dedicates an entire chapter to this idea, and the importance of ejaculation being consciously converted or chosen. https://deida.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/BK00906-interior-pages-44.pdf

Theres a tonne of interesting philosophy on the concept, a lot of which dates back centuries. This article has a great summation of the history. https://www.justinpatrickpierce.com/post/the-origins-of-seminal-retention

It seems like POIS is a chronic form of the "normal" effects of excess ejaculation.

Yes, before my POIS began in my early 20s I still noticed that Os would affect my motivation and "sharpness". Interesting links 

[Warrior]

Hey guys, just made a rather interesting discovery about my POIS protocol. I've been gluten free now for 3 days. Yesterday I E'd twice, and today I am feeling fantastic. I also took a non-active B complex this morning. I feel BETTER than what I normally do with my POIS solution. My motivation and confidence feels good and normal!

Essentially what I am getting at is that either 1) the gluten-free diet, or 2) non-active B complex or 3) both, are definitely positively improving my POIS and thus important to my personal protocol.

I was gluten-free when I first begun testing (over a year ago now), I think I took for granted how important that aspect to my POIS protocol was. Either that or the non-active B complex seems to do wonders for POIS over my active one. The active one however has fixed other brainfog issues.

Anyway, I will continue testing. . . 

Edit: to test to see if it's the gluten-free or B complex (or both), I will do some E tests, maintaining gluten-free but not taking any B complex. That should do the trick

[Hopeoneday]

Yes, it's possible that a lot of people have POIS on a sliding scale, but it's too mild for most people to notice.

Simple, no. Normal peoples feels normal post O, mans-
relaxed litle sleepenes etc, and thats it.
Even thouse who are severe adicitive do not get sick from O,
because i personaly know them a lot.

Me, hawe all pois clusters inluding CFS/ME, so peoples
peoples who hawe some cognitive changes after O, they
talk and think about pois from different angle.

When someone start ..ancinet energy lo..that is
ridicilous to mi in 21 cent..

Womans hawe pois too, what energy lose???

Some of them litle bit tired.. and that,s it.

Peoples do not get sick from refractory period,
so simple.

After reeding some posts here i wonder what we all doing
here? Lets all go home!

[Warrior]

Yes, it's possible that a lot of people have POIS on a sliding scale, but it's too mild for most people to notice.

Simple, no. Normal peoples feels normal post O, mans-
relaxed litle sleepenes etc, and thats it.
Even thouse who are severe adicitive do not get sick from O,
because i personaly know them a lot.

Me, hawe all pois clusters inluding CFS/ME, so peoples
peoples who hawe some cognitive changes after O, they
talk and think about pois from different angle.

When someone start ..ancinet energy lo..that is
ridicilous to mi in 21 cent..

Womans hawe pois too, what energy lose???

Some of them litle bit tired.. and that,s it.

Peoples do not get sick from refractory period,
so simple.

After reeding some posts here i wonder what we all doing
here? Lets all go home!

I agree with a lot of your points.

Don't you think its interesting though that there is a lot of eastern literature talking about a very similar thing? lol

Maybe POIS existed centuries ago lmao

[b_jim]

I add garlic to my diet (2-3 cloves a day). I have the feeling it helps.

[demografx]

I add garlic to my diet (2-3 cloves a day). I have the feeling it helps.

b_jim, i had a Taurine drink the other day and felt better.

[demografx]

Yes, it's possible that a lot of people have POIS on a sliding scale, but it's too mild for most people to notice.

When someone starts ..ancient energy lost..that is ridiculous to me in my 2 cents..

Women have POIS too, what energy lost???

Some of them get a litle bit tired.. and that’s it.

Don't you think its interesting though that there is a lot of eastern literature talking about a very similar thing? lol

Maybe POIS existed centuries ago lmao

Total agreement with Hopeoneday. And hurray.

Also there is a majority of forum agreement about this for the last 15 years (I have also been here since 2007).

Long ago, I “fell” for this Eastern literature/philosophy, but now: no longer.

More modern thinking is needed.

[demografx]

Peoples [sic] do not get sick from refractory period, so simple.

Not sure I agree. My theory since 2007 is the possibility that I have a sluggish refractory period, at least partially responsible for my POIS. When I stimulate a faster semen re-generation - - TRT, Cialis, etc. - - see my protocol - - I feel better.

No conclusive proof (yet) for or against. And i certainly could be wrong. Time (and research) will tell for sure!

[Hopeoneday]

You can hawe refratcory period that last my" two"
centuries    if you ask me, (not sure for your lady)
but you cant be sick from it.