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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2011, 10:09:33 PM »
I do not know if that may be an interest to anyone, but actually, Fenugreek has been using as a 'sauce' or seasoning to soups - The following dish came originally from Yamen :
People make that dish by grinding the fenugreek grains - you put 3 spoons in a big bowl with not too much water, then after 12 hours it becomes a huge dough [The fenugreek has a very strong absorbing capabilities - maybe that related with the fact that it needs to be taken with full stomatch in order to help with pois] you shall add coriander, garlic, salt and cumin a bit lemon and then blend all the mixture. That, you may add to soup like I mentioned, giving it some good twist.
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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2011, 03:28:17 AM »
My (not very scientific) reasoning behind the difference between Fenugreek on an empty/full stomach is that on an empty stomach, it just gets burned by the body for energy - on a full stomach, the body has a chance to make optimal usage of the fenugreek (maybe as a hormonal precursor).

I've eaten Fenugreek curries - many Indian restaurants will sell you Aloo Methi (Methi=Fenugreek), but I've never tried a Fenugreek soup! It's been a popular food ingredient in Eastern countries for thousands of years, apparently, as well as being regarded as a medicine.

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2011, 05:47:09 PM »
Day 21 of fenugreek for me ( Day 15 fenugreek + Garlic). I've decided that this combination is a reliable method of lessening my POIS symptoms. After taking two fenugreek pills and a clove of garlic with some milk my eye burning almost always disappears for an hour or longer(not exactly sure yet *EDIT* today the effect lasted 3+ hrs) and all of my other symptoms are lessened slightly, but noticeably.

I've began taking my second dose around afternoon instead of before I go to bed because if I take it too late in the night the energy boost I get from it tends to keep me up later in the night. Also this works better because if I take a dose around 6am I think the effect wears off by the time noon arrives.

It's not a cure by any stretch of the imagination, but It's certainly a reliable treatment method that is worth the time and cost.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2011, 10:53:42 PM by Vincent Marcus »
Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2011, 12:03:02 AM »
I've been taking Fenugreek for a couple of years to alleviate my POIS symptoms. In fact, I take it every day, since it has a positive effect on my "charisma" - leaves me feeling more sociable/less introverted. I always have an extra dosage before an anticipated O, and again after the O. I took capsules for a long time - now I mix my own since it's a lot cheaper and just as effective. One thing I have noticed - Fenugreek works a lot better on a full stomach than an empty stomach.

This could be the reason why I had a bad POIS episode 2 weeks ago after taking Fenugreek(because i was with an empty stomach). Today i had another O. and i took 2 fenugreek+1 garlic clove 1 hour before the O, but i just ate a lot. The O. was "intense" but POIS cognitive symptoms were greatly reduced. I have like a minor bad feeling in the front of the head, but never feel mentally drained. Can interact with other people normally and without problems, good mood, etc.

Daveman asked about the odour aspect of garlic. Of course i wash my mouth/teeth with anti-odor toothpaste every time i eat garlic(you must chew it as Vincent said). :)

Hey guys. I recently bought some Nature's Way fenugreek seed and Spring Valley Odorless Garlic both in capsule form. I now see that you guys are syaing that you need to chew the garlic. Are these forms good for expected treatment?
My cognitive symptoms started suddenly during an orgasm when I was 16. I then developed my POIS and cognitive/physical symptoms became very severe. Had to leave work and school. This year I had 60% success with regimen. Recently the symptoms have gotten worse again. Let's help each other.

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2011, 06:51:10 PM »
I've only ever tried fenugreek pills so not sure there. I haven't tried garlic in capsule form before. I just know if I chop the garlic up and swallow it with water it doesn't do anything for me, but if I chew it it works.
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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2011, 10:20:26 AM »
Just realized after trying normal whole milk that it doesn't work by itself to stop the garlic burning my mouth so I still have to add a bit of half & half to the whole milk.
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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2011, 08:40:10 PM »
I've only ever tried fenugreek pills so not sure there. I haven't tried garlic in capsule form before. I just know if I chop the garlic up and swallow it with water it doesn't do anything for me, but if I chew it it works.

I think like Vincent, i have noticed that chewing the garlic(of course, i do it with water in the mouth and biting portions of garlic  ::)) and then swallowing helps more than just swallowing(It must be said, continues to work for my case).

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2011, 12:43:25 PM »
Something odd just happened. I just had a completely dry orgasm and afterwards had no POIS symptoms at all. It was a definite orgasm, because I was masturbating, had the orgasm (felt completely normal), but it only lasted a fraction of the normal time an "O" lasts for me and now I don't have any sexual desire just as if I had a normal "O". I think it must be a result of the fenugreek since I've never had this happen before I took fenugreek. It might be due to the 2 garlic cloves I've been eating daily, but when I first started taking fenugreek I wasn't taking garlic and I was having less intense and shorter "O"s at that time so it's probably the fenugreek.

It's odd however that ever since I started eating garlic I haven't had any less intense or shorter "O"s until now.

On a side note it's day 19 of fenugreek + garlic for me and it's still working as well if not better than before.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2011, 12:53:11 PM by Vincent Marcus »
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i have started raw garlic thing , i couldn't find tabs of feenugreek so can i eat raw feenugreek any body else is doing it ??
if yes then how much ?????
one member drink crushed cloves of garlic in milk like a milk shake , so which is better eating it raw with milk or make a milk shake ???
and what are the effects i will get by taking raw garlic ????
i am starting 3 times a day ....
should i take it 1st thing in the morning after brushing ??
pls advice guys ...
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1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2011, 03:12:37 PM »
Something odd just happened. I just had a completely dry orgasm and afterwards had no POIS symptoms at all.

Had an O. 48 hours ago after more than a week without any one. Just wanted to test what would be the result if i wait more between orgasms. Took 2 capsules of fenugreek after eating, just 1 hour before the O. and another later. It was a less intense orgasm, but not specially less intense. Just after the O. i could found the always rare feeling in my head, but when i didn´t take fenugreek it always turned on a significant brain fog, cognitive symptoms... this time i was feeling real good, like in the first times when i took fenugreek before the O. That seemed prety well, but just before waking up i had an NE(I couldn´t foresee this :( ) and i was affected during the last day. At the end, it seemed that today the symptoms have fairly gone. It seems that if you wait more between orgasm and you take the additional measures the POIS will be perfectly manageable, it will be greatly reduced. I will update on the next one, because i want to repeat this action but i hope that a nocturnal emission doesn´t happen again.

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2011, 03:43:22 PM »
great i wish u all the best ....
pls tell me what is nocturnal emission????
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2011, 03:49:54 PM »
great i wish u all the best ....
pls tell me what is nocturnal emission????

A nocturnal emission involves either ejaculation during sleep for a male, or lubrication of the vagina for a female. It is also called a wet dream, and is sometimes considered a type of spontaneous orgasm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_emission

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2011, 11:05:49 AM »
Today is my first day without fenugreek in about a month now because I ran out and I think I can already feel different without it. I feel less motivated to do things. I still had a clove of garlic this morning and that reduced a lot of my physical pain, but my concentration is more difficult today than it has been with fenugreek. Perhaps fenugreek somehow increased my production of neurotransmitters and that's why I felt more motivated with it. When I was on fenugreek I would be researching POIS and playing vidgames and searching for other entertainment, but right now I just want to lay down and sleep even though I got a full nights rest last night.

My relora will arrive in a few days.
Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2011, 12:13:51 PM »
i wish i could buy feenugreek , but its not available here at all...
i might order it online than ....
it means feenugreek is great .....
i like to have sex but i am afraid of doing it .........
take care
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2011, 05:49:48 PM »
Today is my first day without fenugreek in about a month now because I ran out and I think I can already feel different without it. I feel less motivated to do things. I still had a clove of garlic this morning and that reduced a lot of my physical pain, but my concentration is more difficult today than it has been with fenugreek. Perhaps fenugreek somehow increased my production of neurotransmitters and that's why I felt more motivated with it. When I was on fenugreek I would be researching POIS and playing vidgames and searching for other entertainment, but right now I just want to lay down and sleep even though I got a full nights rest last night.

My relora will arrive in a few days.

I think fenugreek has two efects:

- Clearing the brain fog and increasing the ability on focusing your mind; The motivation follows the last one. I am only taking fenugreek when i feel i had noticeable POIS symptoms(today i take 1 on the morning, tomorrow i hope to not take it anymore until a week.), but not regularly.

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2011, 06:57:54 PM »
can i take the seed , if i crushed it in powder ...... what do u say ???
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2011, 08:52:20 AM »
can i take the seed , if i crushed it in powder ...... what do u say ???

The seed can be taken as is. Some have take 320mg in the morning and 320mg at night, others have taken 640 mg in the morning and at night.

You could start with 320 mg twice per day and move to 640mg twice per day.

You could try to isolate 1 gm and divide it in three to give 330mg for instance. 1gm is 1/29 of an ounce, if I remember well!

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2011, 02:12:59 AM »
Yeah the fenugreek in my pills is just crushed fenugreek seed. So if you crushed your own seeds it would probably even be better than the stuff I have.
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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2011, 09:08:13 AM »
can i take the seed , if i crushed it in powder ...... what do u say ???

You certainly can - this is exactly what I do. I bought a large supply of fenugreek leaves and seeds from an Indian food wholesalers. If you have an Indian restaurant nearby, simply walk in and ask them where they buy their "kasoori methi" from - that's what I did, and they told me where I could buy some supplies.

After experimenting, I bought a small food blender - I fill it up with leaves and seeds, and after a couple of minutes I have a powder almost identical in color and consistency to the Fenugreek supplements I used to buy, and for a small fraction of the price.

Take a spoonful after a meal and you are good to go!

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Re: Fenugreek + Garlic...
« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2011, 07:34:21 PM »
hurray, do you think the fenugreek you use now works better than the fenugreek capsules?
Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513