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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2016, 08:58:20 AM »
Also I found that not only my face but my whole body become thinner for 5-7 days after orgasm

I agree! Does it also become dry for you? Especially my hand feels like sand paper the days after O.

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2016, 11:05:30 AM »
i remember some guys on bodybuilding forum, without pois, complaining to not have muscle gains or energy after orgasm.
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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2018, 04:19:34 PM »
i become older, and now with low temperature my skin is wrinkled in Pois if I stay too much out or in cold water.

I think sagging face, wrinkled skin and cold feeling after ejaculation are close symptoms and must have the same cause.

I'm convinced by a LOW-HIGH-LOW fluctuation of dopamine after orgasm.
(LOW just after ejaculation, HIGH because body try to regulate the low level and LOW in the 2nd day because tyrosine may be depleted).

-low tyrosine might be linked to pseudo-hypothyroid function because tyrosine is used to buildthyoid hormones.

- low tyrosine might be linked to melanin, explaining loss of skin/muscles vitality.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2018, 04:24:57 PM by b_jim »
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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2018, 04:31:02 PM »
i become older, and now with low temperature my skin is wrinkled in Pois if I stay too much out or in cold water.

I think sagging face, wrinkled skin and cold feeling after ejaculation are close symptoms and must have the same cause.

I'm convinced by a LOW-HIGH-LOW fluctuation of dopamine after orgasm.
(LOW just after ejaculation, HIGH because body try to regulate the low level and LOW in the 2nd day because tyrosine may be depleted).

-low tyrosine might be linked to pseudo-hypothyroid function because tyrosine is used to buildthyoid hormones.

- low tyrosine might be linked to melanin, explaining loss of skin/muscles vitality.
Cold feeling is because of lack of sleep. At least in my case. I can not sleep after sex. First I thought because the joints and muscles were tense. Then I thought it wss because of the raise of histamine. Now I think POIS messes with the hormones. L-tryptophan, 5-HTP and Melantonin. The last few weeks I can not sleep even without POIS. Is there a member here who does not have sleeping problems during a POIS-period.

The effect of 60-h sleep deprivation on cardiovascular regulation and body temperature:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19002705


« Last Edit: December 31, 2018, 05:58:18 PM by Vandemolen »
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2019, 02:18:57 AM »
For me the cold feeling came quickly (just some minutes after ejaculation). If we could test thyroid hormones and fucntions in real time just before and just after maybe we could see some things.
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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2019, 08:54:43 AM »
For me the cold feeling came quickly (just some minutes after ejaculation). If we could test thyroid hormones and fucntions in real time just before and just after maybe we could see some things.
I tested my thyroid the day after. I was in range, but T4 was a bit low and TSH was a bit high. Back then I never heard about POIS. I thought it was just a thyriod condition because of the cold. But I knew that this went worse after sex. Last week I tested my thyriod out of POIS. But I am sick and in a POIS state (feeling cold until midnight).

A lack of B12 can also cause the cold. And also urticaria can.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 50% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2019, 10:43:18 PM »
For me, choline helps facial / challenge to smile - see my prior posts on CMS/MG like symptoms and others comments in case they are useful

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2019, 11:22:14 AM »
Did you try taurine ? I want to test phosphatadylcholine.
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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2019, 03:40:44 PM »
Once again, I feel much more sensible to cold after Pois :
The temperature is cold now and clearly my fingers are wrinkled day after orgasm.
Very strange
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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2019, 04:13:30 PM »
I always had this, complitly cirulation shut down on extremitetes.
How to explane this- hi adrenaline and vasoconstriction,
tyroid shooted down?
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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2019, 12:43:33 AM »
I noticed there?s different between sex and masturbate
After I masturbate, my skins especially face skins will become thinned and saggy and it will take weeks to recover
But after sex, everything is normal
I quitted masturbate for 3 and half months now but I still get thinned saggy skins sometimes, it last 2-3 days, very weird, I really want to find a solution to this

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2019, 06:32:58 AM »
Yes, i get this from wery high temperatures to, my body hawe the same
fight(dying felings). But faster recovering from this.
Like on higher temps my body go in some kinds of henixer reaction ,
it is known that some patogens dying of on higher temps.
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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2019, 09:47:28 AM »
Ideas: Is there a change in osmotic balance? Or blood volume redistribution? Involvement of renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system?

Yes, i get this from wery high temperatures to, my body hawe the same
fight(dying felings). But faster recovering from this.
Like on higher temps my body go in some kinds of henixer reaction ,
it is known that some patogens dying of on higher temps.

Enzyme activity is generally highly dependent on temperature. Could temperature sensitivity be a sign of enzyme defects?

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2019, 10:38:19 AM »
Definitly could, if it is true by genetics mutations i posted recently,
in some poisers cold do this, enzyms feilure to degrade some
hormones and neurotransmiters.
Its like body dont know what to do, cant regulate proceses in the body
naturaly.

Because all of this, i allways hawe in botom of my mind that we prone
to active cnronic infection, for wich of course we cant be diagnozed.
Unlogics wih our resarching on imunity response, for exemple t reg
cels results you posted is this for me: that our body...

Perminately shut down the immune system. With no immune response, your body can’t recognize foreign invaders like EBV or any viruses they are  injecting via a needle, allowing those unchecked viruses to run wild on the body causing diseases like Autism.  This is, similar to AIDS, where HIV, a T-Cell Virus attacks the body.  The outcome of Lyme is, Cancer, ALS, Lupus, MS, Alziehmers, Parkinson’s and the likes.  Lyme mimics over 350+ diseases.

We know that some poisers hawe parkinsons , in his 40ties....
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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2019, 11:32:37 AM »
To add to what you people have been discussing, for us cognitive symptoms are always seen from the lense of inflammation; we always look at the symptoms that we suffer from as inflammation, which is fair for flu like symptoms but I feel that when it comes to cognitive symptoms, while inflammation is an explanation that makes sense, what if it was not inflammation? What if the cognitive symptoms are a result of depleted neurotransmitters that do not get regained. Especially when it comes to Catecholamines like Epinephrine, they don't just play a role in the Nervous System, but they also are used all across the body. Low levels of Epinephrine can result in lower blood pressure and more vasodilation, this opens up the body for more inflammatory activity. If POIS is an auto-immune reaction, low levels of Epinephrine definitely does not help. Quite an interesting speculation if you ask me.

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2019, 02:20:16 PM »
For me riboflavin helped a lot. My face doesn't look saggy anymore. I take about 50 mg 3 times a day.

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2019, 09:28:55 AM »
For me riboflavin helped a lot. My face doesn't look saggy anymore. I take about 50 mg 3 times a day.
Hi, do you also happen to have oily skin?

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2019, 02:26:37 PM »
For me riboflavin helped a lot. My face doesn't look saggy anymore. I take about 50 mg 3 times a day.
Hi, do you also happen to have oily skin?

He does appear to have a huge neckbeard though.  :o

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2019, 01:36:37 PM »
For me riboflavin helped a lot. My face doesn't look saggy anymore. I take about 50 mg 3 times a day.
Hi, do you also happen to have oily skin?

Yes, I do! How did you know? I have to wipe my nose and forehead a couple of times a day with tissue paper.

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Re: sagging face after orgasm?
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2019, 02:26:05 PM »
If you guys have a fatty skin I bet your clothing and head pillow quickly becomes yellowish.