thinned face and swelling nose and mouth after orgasm?

[DEANNX]

every time i have orgasm for the next 2-3 months my face will look very thin(there seem to be some kind of volume loss, actually not just face, skins over my body seem to be thinner during POIS but yet i have the same weight) and sometimes saggy, my skins look tired and also my nose and mouth would get swollen, and my hair also lost electricity . Do any of you having similar symptoms??

Thanks

[VSmasher]

My face looks puffy like a baby a few days after I bust a nutt. Kinda looks like I'm retaining water. Strange.

[DEANNX]

My face looks puffy like a baby a few days after I bust a nutt. Kinda looks like I'm retaining water. Strange.

I got this sometimes as well. have you came across anything that make it better?

[abnormal8340]

my face also looks quite Tired ....loss of facial muscle...
looks like a child face ...this happens for 3-5 days .... more over my self esteem will be severely hampered after O..( self esteem of 17 yrs boy , I am 29 now )

It appears as if some kind of chemical change happens immediately after O....may be our sperm reaching an unwanted
  place causing an immediate reaction......

As someone said ...Nutrients to get depleted suddenly will take sometime...so may be  its a reaction of sperm vth some other thing  causing all this agony....

[DEANNX]

my face also looks quite Tired ....loss of facial muscle...
looks like a child face ...this happens for 3-5 days .... more over my self esteem will be severely hampered after O..( self esteem of 17 yrs boy , I am 29 now )

It appears as if some kind of chemical change happens immediately after O....may be our sperm reaching an unwanted
  place causing an immediate reaction......

As someone said ...Nutrients to get depleted suddenly will take sometime...so may be  its a reaction of sperm vth some other thing  causing all this agony....

have you notice any different between o from masturbate and o from sex??

[superfrancais]

everytime i have a orgasm for the next 3-5 days my face will look very thin and saggy. anyone here also have the same experience, is there any way to reduce this symptom??

I also experienced such a strange feeling about my face after O and the day after, not always but sometimes. I feel like if an unknown force (an evil spirit?) was sucking my energy and if my face skin had lost its elasticity. Difficult to explain it with words...

I would say it has something to do with the amount of blood near the border of the skin but actually I have no clue. And unfortunately I have no cure for this symptom. Actually I have no cure for any of my symptoms. Except curcuma (turmeric) against inflammation in joints (for instance against chronic torticallis), which works really well.

[Hoping]

everytime i have a orgasm for the next 3-5 days my face will look very thin and saggy. anyone here also have the same experience, is there any way to reduce this symptom??

Thanks

My face gets puffy for a week or so after O. I actually have a big ice pack I use to try and bring the swelling down. It helps somewhat but is far from a "cure"

[abnormal8340]

my face also looks quite Tired ....loss of facial muscle...
looks like a child face ...this happens for 3-5 days .... more over my self esteem will be severely hampered after O..( self esteem of 17 yrs boy , I am 29 now )

It appears as if some kind of chemical change happens immediately after O....may be our sperm reaching an unwanted
  place causing an immediate reaction......

As someone said ...Nutrients to get depleted suddenly will take sometime...so may be  its a reaction of sperm vth some other thing  causing all this agony....

have you notice any different between o from masturbate and o from sex??

not much difference....but masturbation causes more severe symptoms...

[b_jim]

There is a link muscles/ejaculation ...
I remember some guys complaining to not have muscles gain or less power the day after orgasm.

Vitamin D ?

[abnormal8340]

I think this saggy face and loss of muscle (in my case whole body shrinks...the next day after O )is due to dehydration......
As our body is mainly composed of water.... loss of water is causing this.
Dehydration symptoms ...
-> thrist for water..
-> less energy
-> palpitations ( in extreme loss)
-> little confusion...

In addition to the above i also experience blurred vision( for 4-5 sec) when I get up suddenly...which is a sign of Low blood Pressure.( less blood circulation to brain) .
when we have less blood circulation to brain.....our pois symptoms are worsening.and all these vitamin C , garlic , ginger , exercise are improving blood circulation to brain.

[DEANNX]

I think this saggy face and loss of muscle (in my case whole body shrinks...the next day after O )is due to dehydration......
As our body is mainly composed of water.... loss of water is causing this.
Dehydration symptoms ...
-> thrist for water..
-> less energy
-> palpitations ( in extreme loss)
-> little confusion...

In addition to the above i also experience blurred vision( for 4-5 sec) when I get up suddenly...which is a sign of Low blood Pressure.( less blood circulation to brain) .
when we have less blood circulation to brain.....our pois symptoms are worsening.and all these vitamin C , garlic , ginger , exercise are improving blood circulation to brain.

Yes, I have also considered that might be the cause ,when i do too much exercise during pois period the symptoms always get worse. however i did try to drink more water after o and didnt seem to help a lot.

[Vincent M]

The remedy that helps the most for my saggy face during pois is fenugreek + green tea.

[DEANNX]

The remedy that helps the most for my saggy face during pois is fenugreek + green tea.

tired it but didnt seem to help in my case but maybe because i didnt take it with green tea and didnt take it long enough.

[b_jim]

I make a small of-topic to complain about something as each year :

Autumn is here and the temperatures are decreasing and each time after orgasm I have a small syndrome of Raynaud. Taurine seems not effective against it. But i found some testimonies about Raynaud and vitamin D. And it seems confirmed by science .
And Raynaud sufferers have higher levels of homocysteine! . So we are close, we turn around the truth of Pois.

Clearly it a physical symptom triggered by Pois like sagging face or muscular weakness.
But how does it work ?
Other Poisers complain about "tinglings" or "itchings" in the end of finger or feets.
Some Poisers (inclunding myself) feel cold just after orgasm.

It sounds all of these are linked.

[less_fogged]

I've mentioned before (NSF) about issues I have with sensitivity to cold regarding blood circulation in my feet. The cold is on its way and my big toes are already easily inclined to go red. Interesting, BUT a year ago I had homocysteine tested in blood and reading was rather low (10.3umol/L).

[Nightingale]

or muscular weakness.

Look at the posts by Outsider and FloppyBanana about Myetelase. This drug increases acetylcholine levels. Low acetylcholine can cause muscle weakness. Consider lecethin as a supplement, and Huperzine A

[b_jim]

Yes, i read this topic about Acethyl-Choline. This is very very interesting.
The problem is I cannot link the elements each to others.

Yesterday I had an orgasm, I felt cold and it's visible on my skin, so the question What happend ? How does it work ? How does work Raynaud phenomenon and how to link it with Pois ?

When I read the topic about AC, the first thing I do is to link human semen to this neuro-transmitter or a common cofactor to both. If not, i try to link orgasm to AC.

Until we didn't find the starting point we can't understand 100% of Pois .

[b_jim]

If i search aCh and Raynaud I find this .pdf : mechanism of Raynaud syndrome.
"nerve-realesed ACh has been implicated in cutaneous vasodilation in human skin".
If I follow the reference given I found another study :
"Acetylcholine-induced vasodilation is mediated by nitric oxide and prostaglandins in human skin."
etc...

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SAGGING FACE <==> ACETYLCHOLINE

If I go back to the theme of the ropic and I try to link with ACh, I found an article : " how does bottow work ".

Bottox works by blocking the acetylcholine receptors on the muscle side of the junction. Then when the nerve sends a signal to the muscle to contract, acetylcholine is released as before, but it can't bind anywhere on the muscle.

The muscle has no idea it is supposed to contract. It is essentially paralyzed, but not because it or the nerve have been damaged.

To be honnest, I din't know what bottox is excepted I know famous women use this after 40 years to stay younger. But bottox refers to BOtulinum TOXin and then botulism disease. What are the symptoms of this disease :

They usually include a dry mouth, difficulty swallowing, incomprehensible speech, double vision, vomiting, severe diarrhea, especially generalized muscle weakness.

What do you think?

[DEANNX]

I have learned that over exercise , coffee and not sleeping enough during pois period will make the sagging face symptom worse. But still havent found anything that will help.

[DEANNX]

Also I found that not only my face but my whole body become thinner for 5-7 days after orgasm