The Taurine laboratory

[Limejuice]

Glad all is well! Enjoy the fruits of your harvest.

Demo let me know that your back.

[demografx]

Here-I-am!

[b_jim]

Hi, sorry guys I was away from keyboard last times.

Last weeks I have tested something new : I try to boost choline in my food (eggs, fish, beans.... ).
I have the feeling choline works in synergy with taurine.
I hope to give you good news soon

[demografx]

Hi, sorry guys I was away from keyboard last times.

Nice to see you back, b_jim!

Everyone: b_jim has been posting here since 2007! He & I started posting here at the same time.

[b_jim]

Thanks !
As I get older, I feel less worried by Pois.
I'm quite Pois free for the moment but my libido os close to zero too

I recommand to add choline with taurine.
Symply by adding 2 eggs a day (if cholesterol ok) or eat more fish, beans, nuts, broccoli, caudiflower... For the moment I don't test suppplements.
Normal level is 400-500 mg a day (~2 eggs).

Glycine is an option. I might explain good feeling with my chicken "bone" soup

I think now I made a mistake during all these years. Acethylcholine may be the neurotransmitter involved.

[Aladin]

b_jim, isn't that a systematic observation?  I have phases with very low libido and very low quality orgasms when POIS seems to be gone...  I think there is a correlation between libido/orgasm quality and the severity of POIS symptoms

[Limejuice]

Thanks !
As I get older, I feel less worried by Pois.
I'm quite Pois free for the moment but my libido os close to zero too

I recommand to add choline with taurine.
Symply by adding 2 eggs a day (if cholesterol ok) or eat more fish, beans, nuts, broccoli, caudiflower... For the moment I don't test suppplements.
Normal level is 400-500 mg a day (~2 eggs).

Glycine is an option. I might explain good feeling with my chicken "bone" soup

I think now I made a mistake during all these years. Acethylcholine may be the neurotransmitter involved.

Good luck with your trials!

[b_jim]

b_jim, isn't that a systematic observation?  I have phases with very low libido and very low quality orgasms when POIS seems to be gone...  I think there is a correlation between libido/orgasm quality and the severity of POIS symptoms

I don't think there a correlation.

[b_jim]

Some months later, I don't think choline was as effective as I said.
Something seems to help but I'm not sure. Maybe vitamin C or D...

[ste]

I throw it there.
I believe that at least in a part of sufferers the p.o.i.s is the consequent response to an excitatory state (endorphins and other pleasure-related neurotransmitters) EXTREMELY amplified compared to the average. I think of the mental fog and the overwhelming sensation of celestial bliss, my almost UNIQUE symptoms. Has anyone ever tried DEPRESSIVE agents as a cure? Greetings from Italy.
 
Maestro Stefano Petrini

[ste]

In my case, brain fog doesn't just happen as a result of the pois, but also if I go to sleep later than 11.00pm. Instead,if  I go to bed around 21-22 p.m the next day i am even fresh and with a very clear mind since the morning. As an example to show that mental fog also comes from other causes besides the pois

[b_jim]

Yes, several guys seems to have improvement with andidepressant meds like ISRS (sertraline...).

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1/ A chinese MD wrote a study and his conlusion was Poisers may have unbalance with opioid system.
2/ Long time ago a doctor said to me : Poisers are the extrem points of a gaussian curve.


These 2 points may explain what you said : "excitatory state (endorphins and other pleasure-related neurotransmitters) EXTREMELY amplified compared to the average "
 

[b_jim]

I have the feeling Pois has something to do with serotonine.
But I can't understand if the level is too high or too low

Let's see what are the symptoms of MDMA ecxstasy drug :

grinding of the teeth
blurred vision
 sweating
 rapid heartbeat
 memory problems
 paranoia
 difficulty sleeping
hustle
Irritability
Loss of appetite
sadness
anxiety
implusivity
low mental abilities
reduce sex interest
chills
nauseas
muscle weakness...

[b_jim]

Taurine seems more effective when taken some hours before orgasm.
Eating fish (as taurine source) might be more effective than taurine supplement.

[demografx]

b_jim, i had a Taurine drink the other day and felt better.

[demografx]

Taurine seems more effective when taken some hours before orgasm.
Eating fish (as taurine source) might be more effective than taurine supplement.

I like shellfish (clams, oysters, shrimp) and sushi/sashimi.

Are these examples taurine-rich? If they are, then I have a good excuse to tell my wife why I’m $pending so much $.

[b_jim]

Yes, all seafood is rich in taurine. I usually eat them at end of the week. I think it works better than taking a supplement just before.

[demografx]

…all seafood is rich in taurine. I usually eat them at end of the week. I think it works better than taking a supplement just before.

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b_jim, you’ve been discussing the use of Taurine for POIS for many, many years!!

[Warrior]

My functional medicine specialist today recommended to do a gallbladder/bile experiment, to take 2-5g/d of taurine, along with fresh broccoli sprouts 2-5 Tblspns/d, Tru Fiber by Master Supplements, Dandelion leaf/root, and SAM-e 400mg x 2/d on the basis (if I'm correct from memory) that it may improve POIS by helping with the detox of fat-soluble toxins.

He also reiterated that taurine is very safe.

[Quantum]

My functional medicine specialist today recommended to do a gallbladder/bile experiment, to take 2-5g/d of taurine, along with fresh broccoli sprouts 2-5 Tblspns/d, Tru Fiber by Master Supplements, Dandelion leaf/root, and SAM-e 400mg x 2/d on the basis (if I'm correct from memory) that it may improve POIS by helping with the detox of fat-soluble toxins.

He also reiterated that taurine is very safe.

Hi Warrior.  It sure sounds like a liver detox program.   Back in 2017, I posted here about my liver detox program, and how it helped me lower my POIS symptoms. See the thread at https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2431.msg20521#msg20521