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Re: Vitamin supplementation WORKS - start taking them!
« Reply #200 on: September 20, 2012, 08:07:37 PM »
i just saw habibou cathechlomine results you will like this kurtosis.

I had a blood test dealing with Catecholamines :
Noradrenaline                      8.53 nmol/l                N : < 4.00  nmol/l
Dopamine                              0.71 µmol/24h        N : < 3.00 µmol/24h   

My GP said it was unbalanced and gave me "dopastim" to help it but it didn't change anything yet...

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« Reply #201 on: September 20, 2012, 08:11:48 PM »
this are my results.
they are urine test, i dont think they tell what is going on in brain.

epinephirine           7     ug/l
epinephrine 24hr      10     ug/24hr     0- 32
norepinephirine       43     ug/l
norepinephrine 24hr   60     ug/24hr     0 - 140
dopamine              157
dopamine 24hr         220    ug/24hr     65 - 610

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« Reply #202 on: September 21, 2012, 04:31:04 AM »
After taking ginkgo biloba, I experience lethargy all day long. I think it doesn't suit me. I'd like to try protein supplement like spirulina in near future, because brewer's yeast which is rich in protein seems to help a little (reducing NE especially).

If that's the case then please don't continue with taking Ginkgo. Let us know how you get on with protein supplements. I actually quite like the natural muscle milk one. It doesn't have artificial flavours or colourings.

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« Reply #203 on: September 21, 2012, 04:34:11 AM »
i just saw habibou cathechlomine results you will like this kurtosis.

I had a blood test dealing with Catecholamines :
Noradrenaline                      8.53 nmol/l                N : < 4.00  nmol/l
Dopamine                              0.71 µmol/24h        N : < 3.00 µmol/24h   

My GP said it was unbalanced and gave me "dopastim" to help it but it didn't change anything yet...

Yeah, I got a bit excited when I saw those :D I'm sure your doctor has told you not to expect an overnight response from dopastim.
By the way, I've never heard of it. Do you have a link or more information about which company manufactures dopastim?

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« Reply #204 on: September 21, 2012, 11:06:10 AM »
i just saw habibou cathechlomine results you will like this kurtosis.

I had a blood test dealing with Catecholamines :
Noradrenaline                      8.53 nmol/l                N : < 4.00  nmol/l
Dopamine                              0.71 µmol/24h        N : < 3.00 µmol/24h    

My GP said it was unbalanced and gave me "dopastim" to help it but it didn't change anything yet...

Yeah, I got a bit excited when I saw those :D I'm sure your doctor has told you not to expect an overnight response from dopastim.
By the way, I've never heard of it. Do you have a link or more information about which company manufactures dopastim?

those are not mine those are habibou's, you should probably have a chat with him.

this what quick google search found.

Treatment DOPASTIM long offered 15 Days      
vitality, dynamism and motivation    
    


PRODUCT INFORMATION



Real complex dedicated to the vitality and dynamism , Dopastim combines all the nutrients needed to maintain an optimal level of neurotransmitter action: dopamine and norepinephrine. Rosea Rhodiola plant adaptogen and anti-fatigue, degradation fight against dopamine Tyrosine is the metabolic precursor of dopamine and noradrenaline Taurine preserves the stability of neurons and increases the release of dopamine. Dopastim be particularly effective in cases of chronic fatigue with lack of motivation and decreased vitality .



Taurine, Rhodiola rosea, Tyrosine, Magnesium, Zinc, Vitamin C, Vitamins B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B8, B9, B12
all this reminds me of something.
you sure you not working for them  ;D
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« Reply #205 on: September 21, 2012, 12:24:37 PM »
Haha, if I am I'm doing a terrible job of promoting this Dopastim product and I haven't tried it myself.

So Rhodiola Rosea is the MAO inhibitor in Dopastim. Interesting.
I think the catechins in decaffeinated green tea extract combined with theanine would work pretty well as epicatechin is a MAO-B inhibitor and theanine should stimulate dopamine release. I'm trying this at the moment. It's been ages since I experienced bad POIS so it's difficult to say how well it's working but I feel pretty good :)

You can find combination green tea extract + suntheanine from Now. I don't work for them either :D I just find that whenever I look for a product they have the precise formulation I'm looking for.

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« Reply #206 on: September 21, 2012, 12:31:41 PM »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #207 on: September 21, 2012, 06:40:44 PM »
Haha, if I am I'm doing a terrible job of promoting this Dopastim product and I haven't tried it myself.

So Rhodiola Rosea is the MAO inhibitor in Dopastim. Interesting.
I think the catechins in decaffeinated green tea extract combined with theanine would work pretty well as epicatechin is a MAO-B inhibitor and theanine should stimulate dopamine release. I'm trying this at the moment. It's been ages since I experienced bad POIS so it's difficult to say how well it's working but I feel pretty good :)

You can find combination green tea extract + suntheanine from Now. I don't work for them either :D I just find that whenever I look for a product they have the precise formulation I'm looking for.

going to hard drug level, a DBH inhibitor coupled with mao-b inhibtor and dopamine boosting drug should do the magic of fixing cognitive problems. But, am guessing mixing a mao-b inhibtor with DBH can be big problem.

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« Reply #208 on: September 21, 2012, 07:46:47 PM »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #209 on: September 22, 2012, 02:03:09 AM »
Haha, if I am I'm doing a terrible job of promoting this Dopastim product and I haven't tried it myself.

So Rhodiola Rosea is the MAO inhibitor in Dopastim. Interesting.
I think the catechins in decaffeinated green tea extract combined with theanine would work pretty well as epicatechin is a MAO-B inhibitor and theanine should stimulate dopamine release. I'm trying this at the moment. It's been ages since I experienced bad POIS so it's difficult to say how well it's working but I feel pretty good :)

You can find combination green tea extract + suntheanine from Now. I don't work for them either :D I just find that whenever I look for a product they have the precise formulation I'm looking for.

going to hard drug level, a DBH inhibitor coupled with mao-b inhibtor and dopamine boosting drug should do the magic of fixing cognitive problems. But, am guessing mixing a mao-b inhibtor with DBH can be big problem.

If the hypothesis is correct. However, you would definitely need to discuss the above with your doctor. Combining dopamine increasing substances (e.g. PEA) with MAO-B's makes people high and modifying dopamine levels so forcefully is something that should only be done under medical supervision.

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« Reply #210 on: October 09, 2012, 08:13:49 PM »
 is whey protein for body builders decent source for amino acids needed neurotransmitter production.

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« Reply #211 on: October 10, 2012, 03:59:53 AM »
is whey protein for body builders decent source for amino acids needed neurotransmitter production.

Yes but I'd try not to take something with added glutamine. I don't think any of us need it :)
There's a school of thought that suggests that those with a heightened stress response have an inefficient conversion of glutamine to GABA. A normal person taking excess glutamine would feel better as it would be efficiently converted into GABA. Someone who has a problem converting it would just develop symptoms of excess glutamine which includes stress, nervous tics and difficulty concentrating.

You have to be careful when buying some of these whey protein products as some include all kinds of stimulants and other substances which appear to give the consumer a better workout. Now Foods do a nice natural whey and cytosport do muscle milk naturals. Europeans could buy a nice natural whey from Reflex Nutrition. I've tried all these and they're good. I'm sure there are others. I stay away from artificial flavours and sweeteners as I've found I react very badly to some of these (particularly aspartame and acesulfame K) and experience POIS like symptoms.

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« Reply #212 on: November 06, 2012, 04:23:09 PM »
I'm doing this diet for two months without any improve in my POIS symptoms...

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« Reply #213 on: November 06, 2012, 05:18:19 PM »
I'm doing this diet for two months without any improve in my POIS symptoms...

What are you taking for 2 months?

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« Reply #214 on: November 06, 2012, 07:22:41 PM »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #215 on: November 06, 2012, 07:23:36 PM »
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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #216 on: November 07, 2012, 04:26:38 AM »
The problem is taking a lot of different pills, I have no idea what has an affect and what has not....I feel there is something in B complex from NowFood wich make me sick...when I take it I feel more tired than usual...

I received today a Tyrosine complexe
http://www.super-smart.eu/en--Endocrine-system--Natural-Thyro-Formula--0513

picamilion and some plant wich is supose to help production of testosterone
http://www.super-smart.eu/en--Endocrine-system--Tribulus-Terrestris-500-mg--0271

I'll try thoose only

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« Reply #217 on: November 07, 2012, 08:40:13 AM »
I'm doing this diet for two months without any improve in my POIS symptoms...

What are you taking for 2 months?

Morning
Coenzyme B- complex
Spirulina - 1 g
L- arginina
Vitamin C - 1 g
Ginkco - 2 pills

Night
Zinc - 30 mg
Ginkco - 1 pill
Vitamin C

I tried the Neptune Krill Oil but it made me fell vey sick...

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« Reply #218 on: November 07, 2012, 11:18:06 AM »
I'm doing this diet for two months without any improve in my POIS symptoms...

What are you taking for 2 months?

Morning
Coenzyme B- complex
Spirulina - 1 g
L- arginina
Vitamin C - 1 g
Ginkco - 2 pills

Night
Zinc - 30 mg
Ginkco - 1 pill
Vitamin C

I tried the Neptune Krill Oil but it made me fell vey sick...

OK, if it was me I'd reduce the spirulina, would not take l-arginine, ginkgo zinc or vitamin C at night.
Instead I'd add 500mg of l-methionine every morning with my b complex and have 500mg of l-methionine in the afternoon.
Alternatively, if you have obvious food allergies you could try something like DAO-sin in the afternoon which may reduce histamine in the stomach.

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« Reply #219 on: November 07, 2012, 02:45:17 PM »
I'm doing this diet for two months without any improve in my POIS symptoms...

What are you taking for 2 months?

Morning
Coenzyme B- complex
Spirulina - 1 g
L- arginina
Vitamin C - 1 g
Ginkco - 2 pills

Night
Zinc - 30 mg
Ginkco - 1 pill
Vitamin C

I tried the Neptune Krill Oil but it made me fell vey sick...

OK, if it was me I'd reduce the spirulina, would not take l-arginine, ginkgo zinc or vitamin C at night.
Instead I'd add 500mg of l-methionine every morning with my b complex and have 500mg of l-methionine in the afternoon.
Alternatively, if you have obvious food allergies you could try something like DAO-sin in the afternoon which may reduce histamine in the stomach.


I write wrong. I don?t take vitamin C at night, but vitamin D...