Author Topic: Can you get POIS at a later stage of life? (after brain injury and covid)  (Read 1664 times)

Mattice

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Hey folks,

After my brain injury (concussion) i developed several food intolerances. I didn't know this for a long time, but it was the most important factor of my chronic fatigue. Since I knew this, at my 24 years old. I developed POIS too. A doctor sepcialized in POIS told me that you will notice POIS since your first orgasm. This is not the case for me since I didn't experienced any symptoms before my brain injury.

So he acknowledges that I seem to have this condition (extreme fatigue, irriated eyes, extreme hunger, blurry vision, palpations, etcetera..). But he is a bit confused why this happens 10 years after my first orgasm

So my question is, is it indeed true that you cant develop POIS 10 years after your first orgasm?

Let me know your thoughts.

Best,
Mattice
« Last Edit: September 13, 2023, 01:04:11 PM by Mattice »

Muon

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Re: Can you get POIS at a later stage of life?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2023, 11:31:30 AM »
Yes it’s possible to develop POIS later in life, it’s called secondary POIS. Primary is when you have it since your first orgasm. I think it has been mentioned in the latest paper of Waldinger (2016): https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3127.0

I wonder whether your POIS is MCAS. Do you have more triggers aside from those two?
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Re: Can you get POIS at a later stage of life?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2023, 11:58:11 AM »
What medications were you given after the injury?

Mattice

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Re: Can you get POIS at a later stage of life?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2023, 01:02:01 PM »
Hey thank you very much for your early reply!

I need to clarify some things.

In the summer of 2020, I had two subdural hematomas. The likely cause of this was one of my mountain biking accidents 8 weeks before the surgery.

I experienced typical symptoms consistent with Post Concussion Syndrome, as there was no visible damage to the brain itself.

After these surgeries, I gradually deteriorated until the fatigue and sensory overload became so severe after 5 months that I went to a rehabilitation clinic. They couldn't stabilize me for 5 months until I started adjusting my diet myself, as I had heard from a Canadian naturopath that after brain injury, you can become sensitive to certain foods (GI dysfunction), even though I didn't experience any stomach issues. I should also mention that I have Hirschsprung's disease, which has caused me to be somewhat constipated throughout my life.

Ultimately, I was mostly recovered by December 2021 and stopped following the special diet. However, I still had a mild generalized anxiety disorder.

Then, in February 2022, after my first COVID-19 infection, I developed POTS symptoms. I immediately began the Levine Protocol, advised by my neurologist, to manage POTS through intensive exercise.

Throughout that year, I started experimenting with my diet again because it had always been a determining factor in my energy levels since my injury.

When the fatigue returned significantly, I went to a dietitian at the end of last year (around the Christmas period) to see if the diet still played a role in my symptoms. I followed an elimination diet, but nothing conclusive came out of it, and the fatigue persisted. I now think that she might have made a mistake by allowing me to eat soy during that time, which probably kept the fatigue going because I may also be sensitive to it.

Because I doubted whether the diet still had an effect, I abandoned it and went to an internist to rule out MCAS based on a tryptase test. Nothing came out of it. She also mentioned that MCAS often involves flushing on the body, which I don't have.

I then started working 10 hours a week, and 8 weeks ago, the fatigue abruptly became so severe that I became bedridden. This changed after a week when I started eating gluten, lactose, and soy-free again. I started getting a little more energy every day.

Now, when I have an orgasm, I experience the aforementioned symptoms. But with sexual arousal (lasting around 15 minutes), I also become much more tired, which lasts a day, and I sleep only a few hours that same night.

I discussed this with my urologist, who is familiar with POIS, and he prescribed Silodosin for me. However, since I already experience mild POIS with sexual arousal, it doesn't seem logical to me to take it, as it only helps with ejaculation, in my opinion.

I have been reading elsewhere on this forum that food sensitivities can play a role in managing POIS, if not reducing it entirely.

I believe my focus should also be on that. What do you think about it?

Other than that, my POTS is gone, although I'm not sure if I still have orthostatic intolerance after exercising."

Please note that I have provided a direct translation, and it may be beneficial to consult with a healthcare professional for a more in-depth discussion of your symptoms and potential dietary considerations.





Mattice

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Re: Can you get POIS at a later stage of life?
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2023, 01:03:49 PM »
The medication after the injury was Dexamethasone (brain surgery) and at the rehab clinic escitalopram 10mg for 5 months. For 1,5 years after that I was medication free. I managed my POTS with excercise

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Re: Can you get POIS at a later stage of life? (after brain injury and covid)
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2023, 09:43:33 PM »
Hey folks,

After my brain injury (concussion) i developed several food intolerances. I didn't know this for a long time, but it was the most important factor of my chronic fatigue. Since I knew this, at my 24 years old. I developed POIS too. A doctor sepcialized in POIS told me that you will notice POIS since your first orgasm. This is not the case for me since I didn't experienced any symptoms before my brain injury.

So he acknowledges that I seem to have this condition (extreme fatigue, irriated eyes, extreme hunger, blurry vision, palpations, etcetera..). But he is a bit confused why this happens 10 years after my first orgasm

So my question is, is it indeed true that you cant develop POIS 10 years after your first orgasm?

Let me know your thoughts.

Best,
Mattice

if pois is a immune modulated syndrome then it can be triggered at any point of your life usually by a viral infection or a immune system shock allergies are common in general population and pois is likely some kind of allergy to something in our semen.

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Re: Can you get POIS at a later stage of life? (after brain injury and covid)
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2023, 06:28:43 AM »
I have secondary pois at the age of 20 but the thing is i had an autoimmune syndrome before. Its GBS in 2017. Maybe autoimmune diseases causes pois.