Author Topic: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link  (Read 199 times)

Journey

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After successfully making posts about POIS on /r/NoFap linking to /r/POIS and getting once around March 2020 in a few days around 200-400 new users to the POIS subreddit, some months later the /r/NoFap moderators seem to have decided to blacklist the term POIS and links to the /r/POIS subreddit

As whenever one makes a post there with those terms they get deleted automatically

Meaning that /r/NoFap may want to keep others deluded in the dogma while there are possible tenths of thousands of unaware POISers on the subreddit whose root issue isn't some "porn addiction" or any other pseudoscientific explanation but just POIS

Anyone has any ideas how to lift this blockade so we can effectively reach the POISers on those SR/NoFap communities who are led astray by superstitions and in reality have POIS?

Does anyone know or know anyone who knows the /r/NoFap moderators?

I have found it to be very effective to directly launch POIS information campaigns in SR/NoFap communities - a successfuly made effort can gather hundreds of new users in a short time

Unfortunately there is some sort of dislike or scepticism towards POIS

Anyone has ideas on how to spread POIS information more effectively into those communities that likely host LOTS of unaware POISers?

More users means even more activity on POIS communities, more potential theories/cures, even more appearance on search results, more media attention and more official doctor/researcher attention

We should coordinate efforts to effectively find POISers from all possible places before they get brainwashed by the SR/NoFap ideas and are unable to consider that maybe their "semen retention benefits" are just them exiting a POIS cycle

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2022, 10:39:28 AM »
Hi Journey,
It is not clear why the moderators there have decided to block posts about POIS.  I doubt there is a way to cancel this block.  However, I suggest you could send a friendly personal message to one or more of the moderators, asking for an open discussion about why they have decided to block POIS on their subreddit.
No matter the reason, the choice will obviously stay their own choices. But at the least, you will know why they have made this decision.

The POIS Reddit is still there, though, with all the new members.
My main hypothesis, reading your post, is that they feared a loss of participation in their own subreddit in favor of the POIS subreddit.  All channels and social media accounts and forums and websites out there are after more followers and more engagement from these followers.  There is this fierce competition for attention and engagement, internet users cannot be everywhere at the same time and follow everything.

Do the previous messages about POIS still there in this subreddit, or they have been wiped out too ?


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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2022, 04:48:22 PM »
My hypothesis is that the NoFap community is very certain in their belief that this a will power thing (think their talk about a relapse), something entirely psychological. They are almost religious in that way, talking about this a personality development thing (you get success in life when you abstain) and being judgemental while doing so (you are weak when fapping). POIS being a more physical explanation (an illness) challenges their view creating cognitive dissonance especially since their have to be quite committed to their view in order actually stick to their goal.

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2022, 06:39:47 PM »
Hi Journey,
It is not clear why the moderators there have decided to block posts about POIS.  I doubt there is a way to cancel this block.  However, I suggest you could send a friendly personal message to one or more of the moderators, asking for an open discussion about why they have decided to block POIS on their subreddit.
No matter the reason, the choice will obviously stay their own choices. But at the least, you will know why they have made this decision.

The POIS Reddit is still there, though, with all the new members.
My main hypothesis, reading your post, is that they feared a loss of participation in their own subreddit in favor of the POIS subreddit.  All channels and social media accounts and forums and websites out there are after more followers and more engagement from these followers.  There is this fierce competition for attention and engagement, internet users cannot be everywhere at the same time and follow everything.

Do the previous messages about POIS still there in this subreddit, or they have been wiped out too ?
Unfortunately I am IP banned

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2022, 10:48:44 PM »
My hypothesis is that the NoFap community is very certain in their belief that this a will power thing (think their talk about a relapse), something entirely psychological. They are almost religious in that way, talking about this a personality development thing (you get success in life when you abstain) and being judgemental while doing so (you are weak when fapping). POIS being a more physical explanation (an illness) challenges their view creating cognitive dissonance especially since their have to be quite committed to their view in order actually stick to their goal.

Brilliant theory! I have encountered the same narrow bias in some music groups and in some self-help groups that I was involved in.

It’s fanaticism.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2022, 11:55:58 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2022, 02:16:58 AM »
At least you can still search "POIS" on the r/nofap subreddit. Not sure about commenting the word though. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/search/?q=pois&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw=

Shame if they've blocked it.

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2022, 04:51:34 AM »

Unfortunately I am IP banned


Sorry to hear, Journey! :(
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2022, 12:42:47 AM »
Someone with a Reddit account should message their moderators and write a well made message about their censoring of term of POIS, explaining the presence of unaware POISers in their group and negotiate maybe a weekly post of POIS being allowed

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2022, 11:53:00 AM »
Someone with a Reddit account should message their moderators and write a well made message about their censoring of term of POIS, explaining the presence of unaware POISers in their group and negotiate maybe a weekly post of POIS being allowed

That sounds like posters spammed them and got banned as a result?

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2022, 10:07:47 AM »
Is it stupid idea to make new sub redit?
Name it "Pois Nofap" or Nofap Pois and
explane there with comon sense
what is Pois and what is Nofap
semen retention etc.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2022, 11:31:17 AM by Hopeoneday »
Dr-pois.

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2022, 07:28:02 PM »
Someone with a Reddit account should message their moderators and write a well made message about their censoring of term of POIS, explaining the presence of unaware POISers in their group and negotiate maybe a weekly post of POIS being allowed

That sounds like posters spammed them and got banned as a result?
We were advertising POIS on /r/NoFap and it got a lot of attention and then they banned it so maybe we posted too often or they just didn't like that many people joined /r/POIS as they realized their root issue wasn't porn or masturbation but POIS

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Re: The /r/NoFap subreddit has censored the terms POIS and /r/POIS link
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2022, 08:30:12 PM »
Hi Journey,
It is not clear why the moderators there have decided to block posts about POIS.  I doubt there is a way to cancel this block.  However, I suggest you could send a friendly personal message to one or more of the moderators, asking for an open discussion about why they have decided to block POIS on their subreddit.
No matter the reason, the choice will obviously stay their own choices. But at the least, you will know why they have made this decision.

The POIS Reddit is still there, though, with all the new members.
My main hypothesis, reading your post, is that they feared a loss of participation in their own subreddit in favor of the POIS subreddit.  All channels and social media accounts and forums and websites out there are after more followers and more engagement from these followers.  There is this fierce competition for attention and engagement, internet users cannot be everywhere at the same time and follow everything.

Do the previous messages about POIS still there in this subreddit, or they have been wiped out too ?
The previous posts about POIS are still there

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Someone who is diplomatically well versed and good at convincing people, can you message one of the /r/NoFap moderators on the mod list with a well detailed inquiry about why POIS got blacklisted on there and explain them how users on the subreddit may have an actual neurochemical or hormonal issue and may mistake it for porn addiction and come there and thus it would be beneficial if they can learn through /r/NoFap that they possibly have POIS

Who on here is the best at communicating?