POIS without ejaculation?

[pep]

In the article of Waldinger he explains that in these conditions

- masturbation WITHOUT EJACULATION

or

-with the excitement without ejaculation

any of the people who participated in the experiment presented POIS. Do you present POIS in these conditions OR DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANYONE WHO PRESENT POIS IN THESE CONDITIONS?

I present POIS in these conditions

Greetings 

[pep]

On thing more, in THESE CONDITIONS my symptoms are more light

[Vincent M]

I know there are others on our forums who experience POIS symptoms from sexual arousal without an ejaculation. I'm not sure if they are the minority or majority, but there are a fair number of them. I voted that I don't get POIS under this condition.

[pep]

ok, thanks for your answer.

I think that is important because Waldinger says in his article "None of them" presents symptoms without ejaculations and it's contrary to my case and to the people you mention.

Greetings 

[b_jim]

I voted NO but I don't say it's impossible.
A woman can be pregnant even without  ejaculation of her partner.
So precum might trigger Pois if the sufferer is very allergic.

[Andy451]

I always have POIS symptoms leading up to orgasm, during and after..,For me it is a matter of which activity provokes worse symptoms.

In order from worst to best:

1) Immediately after orgasm and hours following
2) During orgasm
3) 5 days following orgasm
4) Building up to orgasm
5) Always have symptoms dependent on my level of activity and regular sleep

[Bulbo]

Even the thought that i like a girl , can start POIS for me . The symptoms are mild. I have cognitive impairment, protrusion of eye ball, muscle weakness, reduced taste, reduced appetite

[edhawk10]

Even the thought that i like a girl , can start POIS for me . The symptoms are mild. I have cognitive impairment, protrusion of eye ball, muscle weakness, reduced taste, reduced appetite

Does it happen even if you hadnt thought about girls for let's say 2 weeks? For me the above is possible as well but only few days after O but if i go enough time without it(usually 7-10 days) i can think about liking a girl and not have symptoms.

[mellivora]

I'm glad this poll has come to the forefront again, I missed it the first time. I do get POIS from stimulation without ejaculation and its currently a huge issue for me. Because of this I was going to do this poll myself so I'm glad to discover its already running. Its really interesting because in the past I had the impression that I was in the minority in getting POIS symptoms without ejaculation (but maybe with some precum)

[Bulbo]

Even the thought that i like a girl , can start POIS for me . The symptoms are mild. I have cognitive impairment, protrusion of eye ball, muscle weakness, reduced taste, reduced appetite

Does it happen even if you hadnt thought about girls for let's say 2 weeks? For me the above is possible as well but only few days after O but if i go enough time without it(usually 7-10 days) i can think about liking a girl and not have symptoms.

I have POIS symptoms even without erection or pre cum release. The thought that a girl is beautiful (without any other thoughts) can trigger POIS for me. So independent of orgasm I get POIS symptoms everday at thought of a female. Its very difficult for my studies

[Muon]

Quite a high percentage for yes.

[Eliasjoelrivera]

Tengo pois con liquido pre- seminal.
Me di cuenta que lo desarroll? este ?ltimo a?o. Antes solo ten?a pois cuando eyaculaba pero ahora es cuando pienso en una mujer y tengo pre- seminal. Por eso creo que el problema es una sobre carga el?ctrica del sistema nervioso.
El problema con pois es el?ctrico.

[Muon]

Tengo pois con liquido pre- seminal.
Me di cuenta que lo desarroll? este ?ltimo a?o. Antes solo ten?a pois cuando eyaculaba pero ahora es cuando pienso en una mujer y tengo pre- seminal. Por eso creo que el problema es una sobre carga el?ctrica del sistema nervioso.
El problema con pois es el?ctrico.

Creo que los mastocitos urogenitales se activan por precum.

Genitourinary mast cells and survival

Los mastocitos est?n cerca de los nervios y pueden da?arlos

Translation:

I think that mast cells are being activated by pre-ejaculate.

Mast cells are sitting close to nerves and could damage these.

[Nas]

Muon mast cell activity can be observed. Do some tests. But I'm confident that you won't find anything. I don't think it's mast cells.

[Muon]

Muon mast cell activity can be observed. Do some tests. But I'm confident that you won't find anything. I don't think it's mast cells.

Ok forget about mast cells for a moment. Do you have an idea why my urethra burns while being exposed to precum? 

[Nas]

Ok forget about mast cells for a moment. Do you have an idea why my urethra burns while being exposed to precum?

Yes, one explanation is that you might have acquired hyperimmunity after desensitization.

[Nas]

I've shown your blood tests to my medical student friend and he says that you definitely have auto-immunity if not suffering from an infection.

[Mishlen]

Oh, i thought POIS stands for Post Orgasmic...

Well, i have same, i know that masturbation AND edging without climax is bad for me.

But i was thinking this condition cannot be anymore called as POIS as it is not only post orgasmic
so i gave up thinking my condition could be POIS anymore.