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« : September 10, 2019, 12:53:40 PM »

https://bacandrology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12610-019-0093-7
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« #1 : September 10, 2019, 05:53:50 PM »

https://bacandrology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12610-019-0093-7
Interesting they mention post-coital dysphoria (POD) as a diagnosis criterion. Is this accurate however? Because is a well documented disease especially for women but does apply to us?
What I suffer from is low motivation, cognitive impairment including memory problems, speech slur and attention deficit, social disconnection, apathy and sleep problems. Does these fit into the post-coital dysphoria diagnosis? 
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« #2 : September 10, 2019, 06:01:30 PM »

https://bacandrology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12610-019-0093-7

One concern I have is the supposed correlation between PE and POIS. Dr Waldinger, R.I.P., had a client base primarily populated with PE patients. My concern is that a disproportionate skew exists favoring PE populations, and thus not necessarily indicative of the average POISer population.

I don’t think the average POISer also has PE. My opinion.

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #3 : September 10, 2019, 06:11:43 PM »


One concern I have is the supposed correlation between PE and POIS. Dr Waldinger, R.I.P., had a client base primarily populated with PE patients. My concern is that a disproportionate skew exists favoring PE populations, and thus not necessarily indicative of the average POISer population.

I don’t think the average POISer also has PE. My opinion.
Just because you don't have PE that doesn't mean it doesn't correlate. For example I don't have flu like symptoms and many don't, yet we don't say it's not related to the condition; it only means that the part of the body responsible for that isn't hit. Let's not rule out symptoms just because YOU or others don't have it demo.
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« #4 : September 10, 2019, 06:14:18 PM »

I wasn’t basing it on me. I’ve been here 12 years, seen a lot. Also concerned about Waldinger patient bias.
« : September 10, 2019, 06:16:22 PM demografx »

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #5 : September 10, 2019, 06:16:00 PM »

I wasn’t basing it on me. I’ve been here 12 years, seen a lot. Also concerned about Waldinger patient bias.
It doesn't matter, just don't rule it out. I thought you cared so much about keeping this forum "scientific"?
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« #6 : September 10, 2019, 06:18:44 PM »

I wasn’t basing it on me. I’ve been here 12 years, seen a lot. Also concerned about Waldinger patient bias.
It doesn't matter, just don't rule it out. I thought you cared so much about keeping this forum "scientific"?
I didn’t rule it out, now please stop.
« : September 10, 2019, 06:24:00 PM demografx »

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #7 : September 10, 2019, 06:19:44 PM »


Congratulations to us all!

Especially to La_pet1te_mort, and Quantum,
for moving POIS science forward!

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #8 : September 10, 2019, 11:20:51 PM »

Thanks for sharing La_pet1te_mort! :)

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POIS criteria: 1,2,3,4,5
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« #9 : September 11, 2019, 12:39:16 AM »

Thanks, nanna1!

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #10 : September 11, 2019, 02:00:11 PM »

Great, LPM !  It is the first POIS article where your article is cited as reference.  Gratz !

The authors have taken in cosideration the modificaitons you have proposed about Waldinger's criteria.  you have made POIS science take a step ahead :)   

The authors say that "respondents were not examined by a clinician to verify their answers, which is a major limitation of Strashny’s study.".  I hope this will motivate clinicians to verify what we say, as they will believe only what they have verify by themselves ;)

The upcoming POIS study form our forum grant will fill this gap, at least in part :)


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« #11 : September 11, 2019, 02:32:54 PM »

Great, Quantum! :)

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #12 : September 11, 2019, 09:44:33 PM »

From Daveman, co-Founder, with me, of POISCenter.com (via email, with his permission to post):




https://bacandrology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12610-019-0093-7



[Mild expletive]. It says that hyposensitization therapy was successful.

That is a terrible setback for investigation. Even if some other investigation says otherwise it creates a doubt and debilitates future hypotheses!!

« : September 12, 2019, 11:36:18 AM demografx »

10 years of major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.
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« #13 : September 12, 2019, 02:04:27 PM »

How does this add anything new to literature?

We don't need another 'what do we know so far paper', there have been several of them released over the years.

2017: https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(17)30414-9/fulltext
2018: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29128269
2019: Another one

Let's see, 5 researchers who have probably been paid with tax money doing another round of copy paste work. They should be proud. Perhaps we should stop paying tax.

Just be happy with these kind of papers and you will get more of them. It's not about POIS it's about doctors trying to stay relevant by writing papers, keeping their numbers up with competition. How is one forum member who published a paper more productive than these guys who are getting paid?

Where is the real research? What a joke....
« : September 12, 2019, 02:15:00 PM Muon »
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« #14 : September 12, 2019, 02:29:50 PM »

How does this add anything new to literature?

We don't need another 'what do we know so far paper', there have been several of them released over the years.

2017: https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(17)30414-9/fulltext
2018: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29128269
2019: Another one

Let's see, 5 researchers who have probably been paid with tax money doing another round of copy paste work. They should be proud. Perhaps we should stop paying tax.

Just be happy with these kind of papers and you will get more of them. It's not about POIS it's about doctors trying to stay relevant by writing papers, keeping their numbers up with competition. How is one forum member who published a paper more productive than these guys who are getting paid?

Where is the real research? What a joke....
I agree somewhat that this adds nothing. In fact, the next research is pretty much this new publication added to tests to back the claims. Research is painstakingly slow unfortunately. Also the Tulane survey is literally just the same as this one.
Our illness is new; what to do. Just pray the next investigation comes out with something more interesting. 
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