Niacin vs. Niacinamide

[Daveman]

For me a light flush may vary between slight body warmth, almost internal, to slightly flushed face.

A good flush is red pulsing face and scalp with sensation of mild sunburn, and red and sunburn sensation on parts of arms and legs. Accompanied by intermittent goosbumps. Can include mild twitching of external stomach muscles.

If it gets stronger than that and causes temporary nausea or internal stomach rumblings, it's too strong.

The best is on the low side of the upper border between good and too strong.

With a flush like that it's best to wait at least an hour from onset for best results. The peak, when it's good lasts about 15 min. and then it flattens out and diminishes over the next hour.

You should wait until it has leveled off and begun to diminish at least.

[poisioq]

i'm using the one from Solgar: http://www.solgarsuplementos.es/nav/productos/productos/p_vitaminaB/Niacina100mg_Comprimidos.html

the weard thing that appens to me is that the only way to get a good flush is eating something after taking one tablet.
in this way i get it even with only 100mg. the good thing is that if i O after one hour more or less then i'm pois free.
i tried to take it in the first morning with empty stomach but i only got a light flush.

i've never tried other brands.
does it happens the same to someonelse?

[Ccconfucius]

what is for you guys a good flush? and a light one?

for me a good flush is when my skin reddens. Am dark and i can see my skin redden.  And i also go into a massive scratching frenzy from niacin making my body extremely itchy.  All that last about 15  - 20 and cools that to slight itching.

A weak one feels like when i cool down. I barely itch and my skin does not redden.

[Daveman]

i'm using the one from Solgar: http://www.solgarsuplementos.es/nav/productos/productos/p_vitaminaB/Niacina100mg_Comprimidos.html

the weard thing that appens to me is that the only way to get a good flush is eating something after taking one tablet.
in this way i get it even with only 100mg. the good thing is that if i O after one hour more or less then i'm pois free.
i tried to take it in the first morning with empty stomach but i only got a light flush.

i've never tried other brands.
does it happens the same to someonelse?

Wow, that sounds like the opposite to me. In the morning I get a strong flush with very little.

Do you have a "normal day", that is sleep at night and awake during the day? (Some work at night for instance.).

I have only recently tried eating shortly after taking the beginning of the flush. Doesn't seem to change much.

[Daveman]

what is for you guys a good flush? and a light one?

for me a good flush is when my skin reddens. Am dark and i can see my skin redden.  And i also go into a massive scratching frenzy from niacin making my body extremely itchy.  All that last about 15  - 20 and cools that to slight itching.

A weak one feels like when i cool down. I barely itch and my skin does not redden.

Interesting. Itching has been mentioned a fair bit. I don't get hardly any itching, but do get a sunburn feeling. Like you it last from 15 to 20 minutes.

[Ccconfucius]

what is for you guys a good flush? and a light one?

for me a good flush is when my skin reddens. Am dark and i can see my skin redden.  And i also go into a massive scratching frenzy from niacin making my body extremely itchy.  All that last about 15  - 20 and cools that to slight itching.

A weak one feels like when i cool down. I barely itch and my skin does not redden.

Interesting. Itching has been mentioned a fair bit. I don't get hardly any itching, but do get a sunburn feeling. Like you it last from 15 to 20 minutes.

no way i wish i didnt have to itch,  i cant doing anything for 20 minutes because am constantly iching and the skin around my armpit form bigger ripples and look more folded/wrinkled, do you get this to.

[poisioq]

i'm using the one from Solgar: http://www.solgarsuplementos.es/nav/productos/productos/p_vitaminaB/Niacina100mg_Comprimidos.html

the weard thing that appens to me is that the only way to get a good flush is eating something after taking one tablet.
in this way i get it even with only 100mg. the good thing is that if i O after one hour more or less then i'm pois free.
i tried to take it in the first morning with empty stomach but i only got a light flush.

i've never tried other brands.
does it happens the same to someonelse?

Wow, that sounds like the opposite to me. In the morning I get a strong flush with very little.

Do you have a "normal day", that is sleep at night and awake during the day? (Some work at night for instance.).

I have only recently tried eating shortly after taking the beginning of the flush. Doesn't seem to change much.

I usually go to sleep at 1.00am and wake up around 9.00am.
another thing i' ve recently noticed is that i can get a very strong flush without caring about eating if i make some moderate phisical activity . for example after taking 100mg, i started cleaning home. in 10 minutes I got a very strong flush which consits for me in a very red face and itching sensation on my chest

[poisioq]

what is for you guys a good flush? and a light one?

for me a good flush is when my skin reddens. Am dark and i can see my skin redden.  And i also go into a massive scratching frenzy from niacin making my body extremely itchy.  All that last about 15  - 20 and cools that to slight itching.

A weak one feels like when i cool down. I barely itch and my skin does not redden.

Interesting. Itching has been mentioned a fair bit. I don't get hardly any itching, but do get a sunburn feeling. Like you it last from 15 to 20 minutes.

no way i wish i didnt have to itch,  i cant doing anything for 20 minutes because am constantly iching and the skin around my armpit form bigger ripples and look more folded/wrinkled, do you get this to.

for me only red face, actually sunburn sensation and some itching on my chest skin

[Daveman]

i'm using the one from Solgar: http://www.solgarsuplementos.es/nav/productos/productos/p_vitaminaB/Niacina100mg_Comprimidos.html

the weard thing that appens to me is that the only way to get a good flush is eating something after taking one tablet.
in this way i get it even with only 100mg. the good thing is that if i O after one hour more or less then i'm pois free.
i tried to take it in the first morning with empty stomach but i only got a light flush.

i've never tried other brands.
does it happens the same to someonelse?

Wow, that sounds like the opposite to me. In the morning I get a strong flush with very little.

Do you have a "normal day", that is sleep at night and awake during the day? (Some work at night for instance.).

I have only recently tried eating shortly after taking the beginning of the flush. Doesn't seem to change much.

I usually go to sleep at 1.00am and wake up around 9.00am.
another thing i' ve recently noticed is that i can get a very strong flush without caring about eating if i make some moderate phisical activity . for example after taking 100mg, i started cleaning home. in 10 minutes I got a very strong flush which consits for me in a very red face and itching sensation on my chest

Yes, I agree. If you do more strenuous activity just after taking the niacin, it tends to bring out the flush. If you take the niacin and just sit int the bed and wait, you areless likely to get the flush than if you get up and do a bit of exercise.

A couple of times, the sex itself brought out the flush.... a little too late by that time.

[sameer7777]

i have that flush i was scared ..... so i stop taking b3 , pls guide guys .....

[Daveman]

i have that flush i was scared ..... so i stop taking b3 , pls guide guys .....

Sameer, the flush is a bit uncomfortable, but nothing at all terrible.

It passes in 20 minutes and after that you are home free.

The world is full of stuff that is a little uncomfortable. But everyone goes through the same.

You push though and live the better part.

After the flush, the better part is much less POIS. Worth it.

[sameer7777]

thanku
I dont remember feeling better ??
should i try again BOSS !!!!!!!!!!???/

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[Daveman]

thanku
I dont remember feeling better ??
should i try again BOSS !!!!!!!!!!???/

Sure.

Although the flush is a little uncomfortable it is "healthy" and completely normal. It does good things for your body, helps flush out the cells.

But the rules are very strict. If they are not followed exactly it's quite possible the niacin won't work.

1. Use a pure  niacin form, like nature's Way, 100mg capsule.
2. Fast at least 6  hours before taking the niacin (especially the first times)
3. Take 150 mg niacin. You may have to take one capsule and open a second to take one half, powder under the tongue.
4. Wait about 15 to 20 minutes for the flush. (if there is no flush, take another 50mg and wait another 10 minutes)
5. Once the flush starts, wait 45 minutes more!! This wait is quite important.
6. The do your thing!

Follow these steps exactly!

[Suppertime]

I generally take Niacin after I ejaculate. It works but probably not as effective as your method above. I'll try yours after.

[Daveman]

Last weeks I have been trying  what this Vitamine B3 can do for me.
I started with Vitamine B complex, one's a day 100 mg.

That seems to be very healthy and will be a base for other B?s. Though it does nothing to reduce on POIS symptoms.

Then I tried niacinamide, about 3 hours fasting and 1 hour before O. I used 500 mg the first time.
It was not very successful but my complaints were less then they used to be. About a 40 to 60 percent but they lasted still 4 days as always.
After that I increased the quantity several times up to 1500 mg yesterday and today I didn't notice anything of POIS ! I hope this will last the coming days !

I also tried niacin.
First 100 and 200 mg which did nothing at all.
Then after 5 hours fasting and 300 mg  about 50 minutes before O my POIS was somewhat reduced the next 4 days but not very impressingly. I had a rather strong flush with that 300 mg and therefore I didn't dare to raise the quantity further.
Though, I have to go on??.Today I noticed there are suppliers who have niacin 500 mg tablets available and they are sold well, so nobody seems to get any damage by the flush with that quantity !

Of course I am satisfied with the result with the niacinamide but I like the niacin flush for more than one reason.
At first I think it a very pleasant experience - particularly with cold wether.
It is also a kind of ?marker? indeed to know when it's O.K.  Only, with high quantities the flush lasts very long, though decreasing.
I think when the peak has past it is time I can have an O.
   A third thing has nothing to do with POIS and is a bit personal. I have a slowly increasing problem with my legs for years now, what makes walking difficult.
I noticed after a niacin flush a remarkable improvement. I don't expect a healing but it is worth to try what happens with regular use of niacin.
Before long I'm going to experience with a higher dose of niacin.

I bought Swanson brand 500mg capsules. It says that they are pure niacin, but they must be slow release, because 500 mg did nothing (at least initially) After having no flush, I made the mistake of having sex! Had fairly bad POIS for 5 days afterwards. The flush finally DID come, but too late, after the orgasm.

If you want to take 500 (which is a LOT) take it using the same 100 mg capsules that gave you the flush with 300. But if you got the flush at 300, I wouldn't take 500.

Probably better to  wait longer after the peak of the flush. THATs when the niacin converts into the "good stuff", AFTER the peak of the flush.

I'm going to have to try niacinamide.

[fidalgo]

Niacin doesn't work for my self preventing Pois before orgasm, but, it works if i take with POIS.

If I have a flush, I will have some hours off less symptom of POIS, and, after that, the symptoms are equal.

I want to know if this is normal to people that Niacin doesn't work or, if doesn't work before orgasm, it shouldn?'t help after POIS?

I'm asking that because, maybe, I only need to find the right way to use Niacin for my body...

[victor.kons]

Niacin doesn't work for my self preventing Pois before orgasm, but, it works if i take with POIS.

If I have a flush, I will have some hours off less symptom of POIS, and, after that, the symptoms are equal.

This is correct even for people for whom the Niacin works (like myself). E.g. if I take Niacin in POIS and do not have O after that, I will feel slight symptoms reduction for several hours and after that all symptoms will be back.

But if I have POIS and I want to get rid of it, I'm taking Niacin, waiting an hour and then have an O! (this is important) , after that POIS symptoms are gone.

Victor

[poisioq]

last night I had a NE (actually it was not that nocturnal, i woke up immediately after, looked at the time, it was 7.00am) .
a couple of hour later (when i finally found the strenght to stand up) I took 100mg niacin on an empty stomach.
in 20 minutes got a strong flush that lasted for 40 minutes more or less.
afterwards I started feeling better and with 80% less of symptoms for the whole day.
at the moment i took the pill, POIS didn't reach the peak of symptoms, because I was not active yet (didn't have breakfast, didn't go to bathroom, still laying on bed)
but something different happened to me a week ago.
I had the need to have an O and I hadn't got niacin with me.
afterwards I had a walk and could take 100mg of niacin an hour later, when the symptoms had already reached their peak (i fasted for 4 hours more or less).
immediately afterwards my symptoms disappeared, but in 20-30min i got the flush and the symptoms came back and lasted for the whole day long.
so maybe to have more flexibility with niacin, it would be enough have an O at night, then take niacin and going to sleep after getting the flush. I'll test it next week and inform you

[Daveman]

In general, taking the niacin after could reduce the symptoms temporarily, but they do come back, which seems to be the case for your incident a week ago.

Perhaps having taken the niacin before your POIS actually had time to dig in could have been enough for you to prevent it.

I have taken niacin "Just before", a couple of times, when I was too horny to wait for the flush to peak or pass. For me, the relief has been low under those circumstances.

"They say" that the ideal is to wait a good hour or even more after the flush to let the niacin convert into the best elements to "prevent" the symptoms.

It is said also that if you have POIS because maybe you didn't have niaicin at the time, or for some other reason didn't achieve flush, that at some later time you can
take niacin, wait an hour and have another orgasm, and that stops the POIS more completely.