Niacin poll

[biocentric]

For only thoses who have tried Niacin prior to orgasm...
thanks
i havent been in a position to test it as yet.

[b_jim]

I will give my answer later.
For the moment I have only took low dose (10-20mg). I can't say if it helped me.

Update : sept. 20th :
I have took 40 mg before orgasm and 20 the day before. I was suprised to have no flu-like symptoms and muscle pains dispite I had bad diet and some stress.
I will continue to test it. It seems it improves cognitive symptomes. Or it was placebo.

[Samir]

I need to try this for sure.

[b_jim]

I voted 0-40% because I'm not sure it helps. It seems to improve my cognitive symptoms but I'm sure it CANT block the inflammation  process. At least at my maximum dose (150mg).

[Vandemolen]

Maybe 10 to 20 % relief.

[pep]

Yes, 0-40% POIS relief

But i'm studying differents situations: a higher dosis, before/after go to the bed, healthy diet...

Nowadays i'm a observer like the user Observer!

[Daveman]

I'm 90 to 100.

I still get light physical symptoms, but have realized that most of those are more from age and weather than from POIS.

[kurtosis]

About 50% relief from cognitive symptoms from niacin.
That's why I started researching all the other stuff. Having said, after tyrosine, niacin was one of the few things that gave me any relief. That first hit of niacin was very important to me and gave me the belief that this POIS thing was beatable.

[Egordon]

Niacin is very effective for me. But since I began taking NSAIDs i've noticed that it probably only eliminates about 75% of my symptoms. Without additional intervention, I don't feel completely sharp until a few days later.

[Daveman]

It's really hard to put a number on it. For instance I still have most of the inflammatory and join problems, although a little shorter, but the rest is gone. My overall sensation is like 90% relief.

It's really strange, because I always thought my POIS was mostly physical. But when niacin works, you come back to feeling what's normal and realize that (in my case) the cognitive effects were much more than I thought.

The same cognitive effects made the physical effects seem a lot worse too.

It's winter here and even with niacin and when I haven't had sex in 2 or 3 weeks, my joints and muscles hurt anyways... also I'm no young puppy! So I think that a lot of my
physical POIS sensations are actually more cognitive amplifcations of the physical problems that I already have and have always (well moreso in winter).

All the flu-like symptoms and the POIS BLAH UGH sensation which is also physical and not normal out of POIS is wiped out though. And of course ALL of the conginitive gone!

[Andy451]

I haven't had any marked improvement w/ niacin. While attempting to take just 50mgs per day I was spacy, experienced dizziness, uncontrollable vasco-dilation at times and a very low heart rate. These symptoms may be attributed to the combination psychotropics (e.g. 2grams Depakote ER and 1mg of Lorazepam), ingesting foods high in niacin already (e.g. peanut-butter), extreme neurological symptoms or attempting to maintain a high fitness level w/ consistent and intense cardiovascular exercise.

As a result, I do not think I am good measure or the effectiveness of niacin in myself or others because of numerous extraneous hypersensitivities and symptoms accumulated over years of exposure to POIS.   

[LAPOISSE]

I take 500mg of Niacin everynight...I dont get a big flush anymore...Its probably prevent from brain vasoconstriction during the night. I feel much better.

[Andy451]

That's great LAPOISSE, I am happy niacin works so well for you!

 I will surely consider more extensive testing w/ the vitamin when I have weaned off of Lorazepam and tested it's effectiveness w/ depakote independently. Yet, the depakote I take has properties that cause vascular dilation and regulates the GABA receptor having an overall calming and balancing effect. I do not doubt the benefits of niacin, yet negative side-effects can be exaggerated in myself as a result of the depakote, hence replacing it w/ niacin is tricky and risky, especially at higher doses because there is a lower threshold for error.   

[Chris]

Still most of us havent find relief from niacin..

[vonstermommy]

My husband takes Niacin 24 hours ahead on an empty stomach.

Then he takes it again about 2 hours before on and empty or light stomach. After he flushes is the time to do the deed.  It was definitely a relief.  Recently he added a Benedryl pill and he was the best ever!  Nausea (which was the most annoying) never came, brain fog gone.  The headache remains.

Daveman suggested have sex again in a couple days.  Apparently it helps with POIS symptoms (from the last time).

[Daveman]

My husband takes Niacin 24 hours ahead on an empty stomach.

Then he takes it again about 2 hours before on and empty or light stomach. After he flushes is the time to do the deed.  It was definitely a relief.  Recently he added a Benedryl pill and he was the best ever!  Nausea (which was the most annoying) never came, brain fog gone.  The headache remains.

Daveman suggested have sex again in a couple days.  Apparently it helps with POIS symptoms (from the last time).

If somehow you end up with POIS, or maybe the niacin was taken without much of a flush or something, you can have sex again in a day or two, taking niacin of course, and it should clear up all the POIS.

When does he take the Benedryl pill? Before, after?

[Clycos]

Hey guys I tried niacin today for the first time and its been pretty effective!

This is exactly what I did I would be happy to hear your thoughts:

Day 1:

2x100mg niacin an hour before O
1x100mg niacin middle of the night
2x500mg tyrosine in the morning + 2000UI Vitamin D
1x100mg niacin 2 hours later
2x500mg tyrosine 2 hours later

and so on.

I am alternating between tyrosine and niacin because I know tyrosine can raise blood pressure a bit and I am afraid that niacin might do the same so thats why I chose to spread them out in approximately 2 hour intervals so that they don't have an interactions between them, let me know what you think. All this I would say has given me 80% relief so far, I feel almost the same way I felt yesterday (before O) and this is the first time I experience such relief.

I am convinced that POIS cause inflammation and therefore with inflammation comes inflation in the brain, hence the cognitive symptoms. You guys have to understand that brain inflammation affects the amygdala, which means it messes with our emotional system. This is why anti-inflammatory medication such as non-steroidical-anti-inflammatory-drugs AKA Advil (for beginners) AKA NSAIDS work well. My assumption is that niacin works similar to NSAIDS. Something I noticed when I started taking niacin a few days before my O that I had last night is that when I took niacin, of course I had mild flush symptoms but I also "felt my brain more" and actually experienced a feeling of more blood flow going to my brain which is a really good sign.

The only thing that truly troubles me until this point is that so far, taking either Advil or Celebrex (200mg) have only been effective on day 1 of orgasm. Day 2, and Day 3, whether I took NSAIDS or not I experience no relief.. I don't know what to say to this; if someone can enlighten me with this phenomena I would be really glad.


Good day gentlemen, keep your heads up

[Daveman]

In my experience, niacin doesn't really do much [u[after[/u] O. The positive effect of the niacin is probably all from the pre "O" niacin.
The other problem with taking "ongoing niacin", is that it will tend to lower your threshold. If you have one "O a week, with your
program you'd be taking niacin almost continually. The effect would start to wear off in a few weeks and you would have to take more
to have the same effect, etc. etc.

Don't know about the tyrosine...haven't tried it myself, so don't know much about it.

Some have taken the pre-O niacin, and then if they still get light POIS, take an NSAID or two and/or a Benedryl after.

[Clycos]

Hey daveman, thanks for your reply.

About tyrosine, I think its an excellent supplement as it is good for dopamine deficiency. What I really think is that we are not necessarily dopamine deficient however having a little extra dopamine while sick from POIS would make us feel a little better since a lot of good benefits come with dopamine such as lack of concentration, motivation, feeling good, energy, etc. Therefore as for tyrosine, I would say it doesnt really treat POIS but it does help alleviate some of the bad symtoms we experience from POIS.

[Clycos]

Hey guys please read!: I strongly believe that POIS is an autoimmune response like Dr. Waldinger believes and that what we experience as cognitive symptoms that is BRAIN INFLAMMATION!

Our symptoms are IDENTICAL to gluten allergy!

I came accross this article about brain inflamation and how it can be reduced feel free to tell me what you guys think!
I have not tried any of these methods but I am strongly considering it.

Here is the link:

http://brain-dr.com/taming-brain-inflammation/