Testosterone

[demografx]

Due to major surgery/total lack of sex drive plus losing my TRT Rx temporarily (explained here elsewhere) I was worried about POIS-relapse. When I felt that "tiny glimmer of POIS" (remember, I am close to "cured" symptomatically -- but not 100% -- my 'alarms' went off. So I doubled up, and it removed symptoms 100%. My doctor will not allow me to double up permanently: not good for the heart....and insurance won't cover it.

I was just overly concerned that my Rx - insurance = no TRT for a while + hospitalization set back my POIS treatment.

[gueco]

I have allergies, POIS, many of the symptoms described.

how can we restart the methylation cycle ?

[Quantum]

I have allergies, POIS, many of the symptoms described.

how can we restart the methylation cycle ?

Hi gueco, and welcome on this forum.  It is already some relief to know we are not the only man in the world suffering from this problem, and aside form support, you will find useful information as well here about POIS.

You ask about the methylation cycle, so you seem to think that it has something to do with your POIS.  Some members had good results with methylation support, like member Kurtosis, who has not been active here for a while, but you can find all of his posts on the forum, including those about methylation, like at http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg7846#msg7846 .

What has lead you, gueco, to come to think that POIS has a link with a methylation cycle problem?

[gueco]

I have allergies, POIS, many of the symptoms described.

how can we restart the methylation cycle ?

Hi gueco, and welcome on this forum.  It is already some relief to know we are not the only man in the world suffering from this problem, and aside form support, you will find useful information as well here about POIS.

You ask about the methylation cycle, so you seem to think that it has something to do with your POIS.  Some members had good results with methylation support, like member Kurtosis, who has not been active here for a while, but you can find all of his posts on the forum, including those about methylation, like at http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=468.msg7846#msg7846 .

What has lead you, gueco, to come to think that POIS has a link with a methylation cycle problem?

I really dont know. I just read the kurtosis theory and I thought maybe it had something to do with my case since I have so many problems with allergies and histamines. I am willing to try anything, doctors are not a big help.

[Quantum]

I really dont know. I just read the kurtosis theory and I thought maybe it had something to do with my case since I have so many problems with allergies and histamines. I am willing to try anything, doctors are not a big help.

Hi gueco,

What are your main POIS symptoms?  Do you have fatigue, brain fog, muscle and joint aches, mood swings, allergy symptoms?

Depending of your main symptoms you may try some of the things that have brought a certain degree of relief to members of this forum.  For example, niacin, fenugreek, taurine, green tea, ibuprofen, are example of things that can help prevent or relief POIS symptoms.  Have you try any of these yet? There are lots of other things that have helped some members, although there is not one supplement that have helped everybody.  In any case, be sure to do it safely, with safe dosage, starting slowly, one thing at a time, and check with a health professional if it is ok for you,

Changes for a more healthy lifestyle, and in particular a healthier diet, have shown useful for many members.  Check on the forum for more information about this, too.

[amsterdam]

I did read this all ( the 8 pages) I feel hopeless. Its unpossible to extract guidelines for my doctor to discuss wirh him. Exept sending me to an endicrinologist.
But will he be friendly  (willing to study the syndrome)to pois? a syndrome is not an illlness.

But in any case I thil feel with empty hands after study this pois index pages. I think it will come out I will try nothing , but it is all very vague.

On the facebook site thee is a poisrelieve site. Its commercial . Does anyone tried the powder mix with result?

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009315562978&fref=ts

I find it suspicious. I posted a vew friendly critical comments...but never been ansered by them.

[demografx]

...doctors are not a big help.

[demografx]

Hi gueco, and amsterdam,

Belated

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[demografx]

My most recent results:



Actual readings:

Component                   Value               Range

Testosterone, total           806                 250 - 1100 ng/dL
Testosterone, Free          201.3  *           35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL

*level too high


As you can see, my Total T was "within normal range" but my FREE T was not.

My doctor (GP) reduced my T-patch Rx dosage based on my FREE readings -- not TOTAL.

Best wishes,
Demo

My most recent  results (12/8/2015)...


Actual readings:

Component                   Value               Range

Testosterone, total           536                250 - 1100 ng/dL
Testosterone, Free          109.7             35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL

My doctor wrote: "Your testosterone is in the normal range. You can stay on your current replacement dose." [4mg+/day].

[demografx]

Wish me luck tomorrow. After years of treatment, my insurance co. is hassling me once again and wants a conference call because my TRT is too expensive (box of 30 patches = $480 USD!). So tomorrow night we powwow to see what if anything can be done in December. I've been out of patches for days. Runaround activity between me, my GP, my pharmacy, my insurance provider. Exhausting...

[Quantum]

Wish me luck tomorrow. After years of treatment, my insurance co. is hassling me once again and wants a conference call because my TRT is too expensive (box of 30 patches = $480 USD!). So tomorrow night we powwow to see what if anything can be done in December. I've been out of patches for days. Runaround activity between me, my GP, my pharmacy, my insurance provider. Exhausting...

Good luck, Demo!   Your latest tests show your treatment is just fine, so it will help.

[Limejuice]

Good luck!

[demografx]

[COLM_2]

Demo,

I hope that today went well and great to see all the support here.

Even if you had to reduce / revise, maybe there are now other ideas, thinking and strategies evolving from the research that will enable you long term to find other physiological supports and sustained health.

Colm

[demografx]

Wish me luck tomorrow. After years of treatment, my insurance co. is hassling me once again and wants a conference call because my TRT is too expensive (box of 30 patches = $480 USD!). So tomorrow night we powwow to see what if anything can be done in December. I've been out of patches for days. Runaround activity between me, my GP, my pharmacy, my insurance provider. Exhausting...

Good luck, Demo!   Your latest tests show your treatment is just fine, so it will help.

Good luck!

Demo,

I hope that today went well and great to see all the support here.

Even if you had to reduce / revise, maybe there are now other ideas, thinking and strategies evolving from the research that will enable you long term to find other physiological supports and sustained health.

Colm

Good luck Demo.

You did it! You guys brought me luck, they just now approved it. ($90 co-pay for 3 months). Without insurance: $1,440.00!

"Reduced" dose, as Colm predicted.

Rx fulfilled is now reduced to 90 4mg Androderm patches for 90 days (vs. 130 patches requested/prescribed).

It's OK with me, 90 patches will work.

This all happened because a generic form of this TRT just came out on the market.

[b_jim]

Good luck Demo.
Do you remember your testosterone levels before you started TRT or just at the beginning (free and total Testo) ?

[demografx]

Thanks, b_jim!

I think that I posted those numbers on TNS.

I'll look for it.

Best wishes for the holidays!
demo

[demografx]

Do you remember your testosterone levels before you started TRT or just at the beginning (free and total Testo) ?

This is not the original (2008) reading you asked for b_jim (I searched NSF extensively, but no luck!), but this post below shows my condition 4+ years ago:

Quote from: demografx on 30/05/2011 21:13:42

For those of you interested in and following my TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) POIS treatment (I'm 80% POIS-free now, steadily, for 2 and 1/2 years after full hormonal bloodtesting, diagnosis, treatment and follow-up by my endocrinologist. My treatment consists of 15mg daily dosage of (3) Androderm testosterone patches.


My test results from May 25, 2011:


Testosterone, Free/Total Equilib          Result          Units          Reference
                                                                                                   Interval


Testosterone, Serum                        376             ng/dL            193 - 740

Testosterone, Free                        15.57            ng/dL           5.00 - 21.00

% Free Testosterone                        4.14              %             1.50  -  4.20         

[b_jim]

Thanks, I saw these 2011 numbers on the TNS . I wonders if before you started TRT you had something like me : average Total T but low free T.

[demografx]

Thanks, I saw these 2011 numbers on the TNS . I wonders if before you started TRT you had something like me : average Total T but low free T.

b_jim, I just don't recall the specifics, I only remember that my 2008 readings on testosterone (total? free? I don't recollect) were "low", maybe "very low".

Best regards,
demo