The Taurine laboratory

[dizzy]

I was diagnosed with Gilbert's too.

Hi Scrub, that's interesting!

What are your symptoms?

By the way, I'm currently taking daily:
B12 (suck on a 5000mcg sublingual tablet for 30min)
Zinc (22mg) + Magnesium (glycinate, 200mg) + P5P (30mg) all at once
B5 (500mg) + B-right (Jarrow formulas)
1g taurine (3x a day)

The B12 [1], zinc [2] and taurine [3] are known to help with high bilirubin, and I feel my head "clear up" after taking them.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6041549/

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699685

[3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20096270

PS: the liver "loves" beetroot juice, and olive oil.

[swell]

one of my POIS skin symptom is pale skin, another is facial nerve weakness.  I have been taking betroot juice since a month, and overall view it as a very slight positive on health, but no earth shaking, glutathione eliminated my pois for about 14 days to a month, but now that helps only mildly, but still helps.

[b_jim]

I have jaundice too !

[dizzy]

@b_jim,

Ok, we might be on to something here

Did you have your bilirubin levels tested?

I've found some information on this website (but it seems to be not maintained):
http://www.gilbertssyndrome.com/

It mentions a lot of possible symptoms (including all the ones I have), but not POIS.

And there is a whole list of possible approaches to Gilbert's syndrome here, not sure where to start:
http://www.gilbertssyndrome.com/thingsthathelp.php

Another possible useful website:
http://www.gilbertssyndrome.org.uk/2011/08/detoxification-what-is-it/

[Hopeoneday]

Guys, read a litle about liver detox fases, could be genetic feilure in liwer enzayms.
Removing fluoride could help for yaundice if it is involwed in disturbing enzaym in liver.
Liwer abnormalitys could be inwolwed in some poisers.

[Scrub]

I was diagnosed with Gilbert's too.

Hi Scrub, that's interesting!

What are your symptoms?

By the way, I'm currently taking daily:
B12 (suck on a 5000mcg sublingual tablet for 30min)
Zinc (22mg) + Magnesium (glycinate, 200mg) + P5P (30mg) all at once
B5 (500mg) + B-right (Jarrow formulas)
1g taurine (3x a day)

The B12 [1], zinc [2] and taurine [3] are known to help with high bilirubin, and I feel my head "clear up" after taking them.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6041549/

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699685

[3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20096270

PS: the liver "loves" beetroot juice, and olive oil.

Gibert's symptoms?

High billirubin in blood tests, an sometimes, under stressful situations, my eyes or skin can get a yellowish tone.

[dizzy]

@Scrub,

Ok, but I meant POIS symptoms

By the way, I found an interesting piece about people who have not Gilbert's, but a more serious version called Crigler-Najjar, where bilirubin cannot be broken down at all. This shows that bilirubin has some nasty toxic effects, and I'm guessing that similar effects can play a role with Gilbert's (albeit in more subtle form).

https://www.foxnews.com/story/blue-light-aids-sick-amish-mennonite-children

Some time ago I bought a blacklight (UVA light), and it gives me some relief, and perhaps the UVA light is similar to the blue light. I'm now thinking of also buying a blue lamp (I found a medical article where they used 470nm wavelength LEDs to address bilirubin). By the way, the specialized lamps are called "bili lights", and are mostly used for babies who have problems starting up their liver function and converting bilirubin.

[Scrub]

@Scrub,

Ok, but I meant POIS symptoms

By the way, I found an interesting piece about people who have not Gilbert's, but a more serious version called Crigler-Najjar, where bilirubin cannot be broken down at all. This shows that bilirubin has some nasty toxic effects, and I'm guessing that similar effects can play a role with Gilbert's (albeit in more subtle form).

https://www.foxnews.com/story/blue-light-aids-sick-amish-mennonite-children

Some time ago I bought a blacklight (UVA light), and it gives me some relief, and perhaps the UVA light is similar to the blue light. I'm now thinking of also buying a blue lamp (I found a medical article where they used 470nm wavelength LEDs to address bilirubin). By the way, the specialized lamps are called "bili lights", and are mostly used for babies who have problems starting up their liver function and converting bilirubin.

-Neurologic/Psychiatric (mainly): Brain fog, short term memory dysfunction, difficulty with recalling words, anxiety, depression, anhedonia, mood swings, lack of concentration.
-Physical: Fatigue, tiredness, increased urination and increased hunger.

Sometimes nausea too.

[dizzy]

-Neurologic/Psychiatric (mainly): Brain fog, short term memory dysfunction, difficulty with recalling words, anxiety, depression, anhedonia, mood swings, lack of concentration.
-Physical: Fatigue, tiredness, increased urination and increased hunger.

Sometimes nausea too.

All sounds familiar to me, except for the memory dysfunction, lack of concentration and nausea.

How is taurine working for you? What doses did you try and does it help?
Also, did you try zinc?

[Scrub]

-Neurologic/Psychiatric (mainly): Brain fog, short term memory dysfunction, difficulty with recalling words, anxiety, depression, anhedonia, mood swings, lack of concentration.
-Physical: Fatigue, tiredness, increased urination and increased hunger.

Sometimes nausea too.

All sounds familiar to me, except for the memory dysfunction, lack of concentration and nausea.

How is taurine working for you? What doses did you try and does it help?
Also, did you try zinc?

Taurine effect on POIS for me is kinda low. I tried it with a daily intake of 1g. I stopped taking it since last week.

I tried Zinc too without a noticeable success, I need to update my thread, but right now I think I've found the key to keep POIS under control, polyphenols and flavonoids seems to do wonders for POIS prevention and treatment.

[dizzy]

Taurine effect on POIS for me is kinda low. I tried it with a daily intake of 1g. I stopped taking it since last week.

I tried Zinc too without a noticeable success, I need to update my thread, but right now I think I've found the key to keep POIS under control, polyphenols and flavonoids seems to do wonders for POIS prevention and treatment.

Well, good to hear that you have things under control now.

Regarding polyphenols and flavonoids, that sounds interesting, what are you taking specifically? Are you taking them as unprocessed foods, or as supplements?

[Scrub]

Taurine effect on POIS for me is kinda low. I tried it with a daily intake of 1g. I stopped taking it since last week.

I tried Zinc too without a noticeable success, I need to update my thread, but right now I think I've found the key to keep POIS under control, polyphenols and flavonoids seems to do wonders for POIS prevention and treatment.

Well, good to hear that you have things under control now.

Regarding polyphenols and flavonoids, that sounds interesting, what are you taking specifically? Are you taking them as unprocessed foods, or as supplements?

My most successful attempts to prevent and fix POIS have been so far by adding antioxidant supplements and rich foods into my diet such as:

-Green Tea
-Chamomile Tea
-Resveratrol supplements
-Diosmin and Hesperidin supplements
-Fenugreek tea

[b_jim]

There is non-sientific technique for women called Derivative Bath. The goal is to refresh the perineum with cold pocket. For men with fertility problems, it's recommended to refresh the testicles.
If Pois is a real inflammation condition, why not give a try.

[dizzy]

My most successful attempts to prevent and fix POIS have been so far by adding antioxidant supplements and rich foods into my diet such as:

Thanks! I might try that once I'm finished studying taurine, and my liver condition.

[b_jim]

After 2 months of tests, I recommand 500mg of L-Tyrosine 30min before ejaculation for this symptom :
- restless legs syndrome

[Vandemolen]

I still have Taurine. But I will not use it for a while. Because I read this: ‘Taurine may increase Histamine levels within the Hippocampus.’ Maybe when my histamine problem is fixed I will give it a try.

[demografx]

         Taurine Molecule

[b_jim]

Recent studies shows taurine defiency explains male infertility

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180511102357.htm

Maybe since the beggining of my life I had difficut to produce taurine and my levels crashed after puberty and ejaculation...

[demografx]

Very interesting, b_jim!

[demografx]

Oct 22, 2018 · Researchers at The University of Western Australia (UWA) have been awarded close to $490,000 from two organizations to explore the potential use of an amino acid called taurine as a treatment for Duchenne muscular dystrophy (DMD). Duchenne UK granted £273,648 (approximate...


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