Author Topic: The Taurine laboratory (Read 141005 times)

b_jim · « **Reply #180 on:** September 22, 2018, 02:32:35 PM »

Hope you will be fine

A recent(2016) study showed that magnesium :

1/ Regulates circadian rythms
2/ Regulate energy burning in cells

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature17407#affil-auth

b_jim · « **Reply #181 on:** October 04, 2018, 02:57:19 PM »

I continue my combo Taurine/tyrosine with some success.
I can't say for now if tyrosine improves the symptoms compared to taurine alone. I would say yes but I'm not sure.

One thing is sure :
I have an ulcer and since several months I ate much less meat and less proteins. It clearly had a negative impact on my Pois.
I don't say the lacking amino acid is tyrosine but it's not impossible.

I have a new idea : I take my mg supplement in water.
It seems to improve absorbtion.

My objective is fight the first symptom I have in Pois : in the first 5-10 minutes after orgasm : I feel COLD. Especially during winter season.
I hope tyrosine will help me for this. I read an article where tyrosine xas give to soldiers during trainings in cold to improve alertness.

VictimNoMore · « **Reply #182 on:** October 23, 2018, 09:04:40 PM »

Hi B_jim!
It's been a bit and the journey continues. I'm sad to report i did complete an 11 day trial of daily Taurine at 1000mg daily, with no noticeable effects. Initially I did think i felt calmer, and that my general disposition was better through the day, but over time, i did not feel the same by day 10 and 11. I keep a small journal to keep track of my symptoms.
There were no negative side effects for me trying Taurine.
There were no noticeable good side effects to Taurine for me.
The supplement was cheap, and it was worth testing out. I personally dont mind giving it another run in about a month since there were no noticeable negatives, but ultimately I will move on and give something else a trial run. I'm still having good success with 5 HTP, and i think i will now move on to upping the dosage on it and documenting.
Thanks!

Vandemolen · « **Reply #183 on:** October 25, 2018, 09:00:13 PM »

I will give Taurine a second chance. Because I am on Clomid to raise my testosterone. And Taurine also has that effect. Is it wise to also use Gaba?

demografx · « **Reply #184 on:** October 26, 2018, 11:19:16 AM »

Quote from: Vandemolen on October 25, 2018, 09:00:13 PM

I will give Taurine a second chance. Because I am on Clomid to raise my testosterone. And Taurine also has that effect. Is it wise to also use Gaba?

You can’t go wrong: b_jim has been with our 2 forums as a major contributor since early 2007!

11+ years ago!

demografx · « **Reply #185 on:** October 26, 2018, 11:38:35 AM »

But I’m sure b_jim would also agree with me:

Taurine (just like TRT, niacin, diet, etc.) to treat POIS is not for everyone! We are all different. One man’s successful POIS treatment can be POISon for someone else.

Work with medical professionals. This forum is not intended for personal medical advice

Vandemolen · « **Reply #186 on:** October 26, 2018, 12:59:55 PM »

I know. My doctor gave me the Clomid to raise my testosterone. He can’t give me 100% certainty that it will help my POIS and/or my Prostatitis. But in theory there is a good chance that it might relief some symptoms. And Taurine is also good for testosterone. I don’t want to be more on the Clomid than the mimimum time (3 months). So the higher my testosterone level about 3 months the better.

demografx · « **Reply #187 on:** October 26, 2018, 10:59:06 PM »

Good luck, Van. It also took me some time before TRT started working.

I’m glad I didn’t quit too early.

Vandemolen · « **Reply #188 on:** October 27, 2018, 08:32:01 AM »

Quote from: demografx on October 26, 2018, 10:59:06 PM

Good luck, Van. It also took me some time before TRT started working.

I’m glad I didn’t quit too early.

Thanks. I read that Clomid has an effect after 2 or 3 months. I want to use it for 3 months. It’s also not so good to use Clomid for a long time. Because not only testosterone will rise, but also Estradiol, a ‘female’ hormone.

b_jim · « **Reply #189 on:** October 28, 2018, 02:40:36 AM »

I'm sorry if taurine didn't help you. But it's not a surprise : only less of 10 guys feel an improvement.
Some day I feel it less effctive, probablly I'm becoming older. I have stomach problems too and I feel depressed.When I'm depressed I have lack of concentration like Pois but without flu-like symptoms.... Anyway I can do my job, something impossible before I took the taurine. Thats the good point.

I think gaba itself can"t cross blood-brain bridge. Maybe gaba-pentine works.

I alway keep one eye on testosterone theory because my natural level may start to decrease now and I don't know what will be the effect on my Pois..

Vandemolen · « **Reply #190 on:** October 28, 2018, 08:50:27 AM »

Quote from: b_jim on October 28, 2018, 02:40:36 AM

I'm sorry if taurine didn't help you. But it's not a surprise : only less of 10 guys feel an improvement.
Some day I feel it less effctive, probablly I'm becoming older. I have stomach problems too and I feel depressed.When I'm depressed I have lack of concentration like Pois but without flu-like symptoms.... Anyway I can do my job, something impossible before I took the taurine. Thats the good point.

I think gaba itself can"t cross blood-brain bridge. Maybe gaba-pentine works.

I alway keep one eye on testosterone theory because my natural level may start to decrease now and I don't know what will be the effect on my Pois..

I knew that only a few had succes with Taurine. But maybe in combination with Clomid I will get some relief.

You should check your testosterone level. Maybe Taurine helps you because it’s good for testosterone.

b_jim · « **Reply #191 on:** October 28, 2018, 09:12:51 AM »

I tested it 3 years ago. Total T : normal, free T : low limit but normal. After 4-5 ejaculations days before and 500mg of taurine each day.
i hope clomid will help you.

Vandemolen · « **Reply #192 on:** October 28, 2018, 11:16:11 AM »

Quote from: b_jim on October 28, 2018, 09:12:51 AM

I tested it 3 years ago. Total T : normal, free T : low limit but normal. After 4-5 ejaculations days before and 500mg of taurine each day.
i hope clomid will help you.

Ok. My total testosterone is too low, free testosterone was low but normal.
Thanks.

b_jim · « **Reply #193 on:** November 02, 2018, 10:48:02 PM »

I wonder if sulfur could be the missing element. It's present in human semen giving the yellowed color. Taurine is a product of sulfured amino acid like methionine.

Sulfur is a key factor for glutathione production itself a key factor for dopamine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9349527

dizzy · « **Reply #194 on:** November 03, 2018, 07:57:15 PM »

Quote

I wonder if sulfur could be the missing element.

I wonder about this too. The sulfur-containing amino-acids taurine, methionine and cysteine have a positive effect on me.

There's an enzyme called sulfite-oxidase [1] in the mitochondria, which is important for the conversion/uptake of sulfur, and it depends on molybdenum. So sometimes I take molybdenum with taurine, and it seems to improve its effect on me. (But to be honest, it could be my imagination, also I'm not a biochemistry expert)

Another theory is that taurine improves lipid metabolism, see [2]. This would explain why the sulfur-containing amino-acids [3] and pantethine [4], inositol [3] and betaine/TMG [3] have a positive effect on me (at times). Again, highly speculative.

By the way, I've tried MSM (contains sulfur) in various doses, and it seems to have no effect on me at all. So it's not just sulfur that's doing something for me.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfite_oxidase

[2] https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/136/6/1666S/4664451

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipotropic

[4] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19685700

b_jim · « **Reply #195 on:** November 04, 2018, 03:07:58 AM »

Aah yes, nice post, thanks. I agree with the whole text

Agree with fats metabolsim. I'll go to my doctor soon and I have some question for her. My lipases are too high, cholesterol below range.

And of course, fat metabolism in my minds refers to testosterone at the end of the chain.

dizzy · « **Reply #196 on:** November 06, 2018, 05:57:28 PM »

I found another possible explanation, read this: https://migraine.com/stories/taurine-miracle-cure/

Turns out that migraines are sometimes effectively treated with taurine (and riboflavin).

Now I suspect that for some POIS is a type of migraine (one which doesn't necessarily feel like a headache).

More evidence is here:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sex-headaches/symptoms-causes/syc-20377477

Yes, "sex headaches" is an illness which is acknowledged by modern medicine.

I suspect this is all related.

b_jim · « **Reply #197 on:** November 07, 2018, 04:26:02 AM »

Thanks, good job !

dizzy · « **Reply #198 on:** November 10, 2018, 06:36:05 PM »

New explanation:

Taurine protects against bilirubin-induced neurotoxicity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20096270

I have high bilirubin levels, and was diagnosed with Gilbert's syndrome (according to my doc this is not a serious condition, but who knows if it has something to do with POIS)

I also have jaundice (to some extent)

Sunlight helps me (phototherapy helps reduce bilirubin levels, see "Prevention" section of this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernicterus)

Scrub · « **Reply #199 on:** November 10, 2018, 08:07:57 PM »

Quote from: dizzy on November 10, 2018, 06:36:05 PM

New explanation:

Taurine protects against bilirubin-induced neurotoxicity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20096270

I have high bilirubin levels, and was diagnosed with Gilbert's syndrome (according to my doc this is not a serious condition, but who knows if it has something to do with POIS)

I also have jaundice (to some extent)

Sunlight helps me (phototherapy helps reduce bilirubin levels, see "Prevention" section of this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernicterus)

I was diagnosed with Gilbert's too.

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