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POIS Cause/Treatment Discussions => Hormonal Causes and Treatments => Topic started by: Observer on June 06, 2011, 11:30:21 AM
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I have order Goji berrys for tomorrow because i have read on the NSF about the potential amazing properties of this berry. The woman on the herbs store suggested me to buy the original berrys from the Tibet. I will update on the effects the Goji berrys the next time i have an O. Any comment would be apreciated.
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yes, I posted it since I know someone who reduced his symptoms dramatically (-95%) and feel even better than before out of POIS. I am testing it too, cause it worked for many unknown cases with autoimmune strange disorder. The matter is the price, but with the benefit, i wouldn't hesitate at all.
Yes, she is right, the Tibet wolfberry is the most efficient according to people who tried.
I advise you to take 20/25 g a day, in the morning 15 minutes before the breakfast. So your 500 g amount is eaten in 20/25 days.
The best is the dry wolfberry, whereas the juice looses some benefits.
Tell me how you feel after 15 days and we could compare since we start about the same time ! Good luck :)
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Good Luck!
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i have also started about two days ago. I was not sure amount to use thanks you clarified that.
Mine i a product of china though so that shouldnt to bad, it is also certified organic.
where do i get the one from tibet.
lets get this three gojimingos going.
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I got it in a shop :) but i guess you can find it on line easily ! on google : buy/purchase goji from tibet"
where do you live? i could try to find you an accurate link regarding your location. I took a 35$/ kg type (25 €) and it should last about 50 days.
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I advise you to take 20/25 g a day, in the morning 15 minutes before the breakfast. So your 500 g amount is eaten in 20/25 days.
The best is the dry wolfberry, whereas the juice looses some benefits.
Tell me how you feel after 15 days and we could compare since we start about the same time ! Good luck :)
I have the Goji berrys now, but it´s an 250 g amount. I have been feeling the last 2/3 days with one of the worst POIS episodes since i began to take garlic or fenugreek. The reason? I had a Nocturnal Emision. As i have said fenugreek is not as useful when your POIS symptoms are stronger(or maybe you have to take too much), but it continues to work. This feeling reminded me what i used to feel in the past and to recognize the clear difference of TAKING/NOT TAKING fenugreek before the O. This afternoon i was feeling with medium brain fog. Then, i ate a fruit, went to shop and bought the Goji Berrys. I wanted to know the effect. Well, now i can tell you. I take 3 or 4 berrys(Of course, this is less than your suggestion Habibou) and my brain fog dissipated . I don´t know if we are talking about some strong placebo effect, but time will tell. Currently 4 or 5 hours later i feel very well maybe with a little cognitive symptoms, but nothing disturbing. I will update on the next days.
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Also, perhaps the fenugreek didn't work as well with the NE because ideally, you need to take fenugreek 1 or 2 hrs just before.
Intersting to see how the berries go. You are still taking fenugreek too then, right?
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Great it seemed to work for you ! The best would be to see after a real willing O to test the real effects...
i will restart it on Thursday, but anyways it seems like my brain is foggy 24h/24 so i would need a good AD in the same time.
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I got it in a shop :) but i guess you can find it on line easily ! on google : buy/purchase goji from tibet"
where do you live? i could try to find you an accurate link regarding your location. I took a 35$/ kg type (25 €) and it should last about 50 days.
am in the us and the berries are kind of new here am guessing since i could only find one store that has it.
i found some on amazon but do you really think it makes a difference.
i still need better source than amazon i dont totally trust individuals selling it.(thanks)
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Also, perhaps the fenugreek didn't work as well with the NE because ideally, you need to take fenugreek 1 or 2 hrs just before.
Intersting to see how the berries go. You are still taking fenugreek too then, right?
Yes, of course. I usually take fenugreek when i am going to have an O. (1-2 hours before with full stomach - good diet) and then i take 2 capsules the first day, 1 capsule the second... and POIS is gone. I had the NE at the morning, 4 days ago and with an empty stomach and this has been one of the most disturbing POIS episodes in this months.
Today i didn´t sleep so good and the POIS made a serious comeback in the dinner(chinese food). I was feeling like yesterday, or worse, and decided to increase the amount of wolfberrys(maybe 10-12). They worked very well. My conclusion until now is that they work better than fenugreek, for longer periods of time. I will update how i feel tomorrow, but it has been 5 hours since i take the wolfberrys, i ate a sweet dessert and i feel really good. I think that Habibou suggestion of wolfberry amount is the correct to maintain a good mind condition during the day.
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Speaking of Chinese dinner!
Depending on if it's home-made or bought out, Chinese food often has lots of MSG or similar. Even if it's home-made, most soyas and other salses have a lot of it too.
MSG (which is in a high percent of packaged sauces and foods) is very bad for POIS symptoms.
It may be disguised with more technical names. MSG is mono-sodioglutamate. But is also part of other flavour enhancers and chemical preservatives.
Once I bean looking up the derivitives on labels, I had a difficult time finding any canned orpoackaged food-product that didn't have it.
Among exagerated POIS symptoms, it makes my ears and brain "pulse" and the hearing intensity rise and fall at similar frequencies. ( 1 to 5 cycles per second).
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Speaking of Chinese dinner!
Depending on if it's home-made or bought out, Chinese food often has lots of MSG or similar. Even if it's home-made, most soyas and other salses have a lot of it too.
MSG (which is in a high percent of packaged sauces and foods) is very bad for POIS symptoms.
It may be disguised with more technical names. MSG is mono-sodioglutamate. But is also part of other flavour enhancers and chemical preservatives.
Wow, thank you Daveman for your information. Since i discovered that i have POIS i became an observer of the foods or habits that worsened my brain fog/POIS symptoms, and i think you´re right on this one. I recall some times in the past this has happened to me when i have eaten in chinese restaurants.
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ESPECIALLY Chinses Restaruants. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Chinese food, in all forms. But I can't eat it.
I'll eat it home made, and carefully, very carefully selecting the ingredients.
Keep it fresh and hand make all sauces. You have to buy soy sauce, but check the label, and understand what all the ingredients really are. Look them up on internet.
Fortunately, ginseng and other spices are fine, just the sauces.
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Also, perhaps the fenugreek didn't work as well with the NE because ideally, you need to take fenugreek 1 or 2 hrs just before.
Intersting to see how the berries go. You are still taking fenugreek too then, right?
Yes, of course. I usually take fenugreek when i am going to have an O. (1-2 hours before with full stomach - good diet) and then i take 2 capsules the first day, 1 capsule the second... and POIS is gone. I had the NE at the morning, 4 days ago and with an empty stomach and this has been one of the most disturbing POIS episodes in this months.
Today i didn´t sleep so good and the POIS made a serious comeback in the dinner(chinese food). I was feeling like yesterday, or worse, and decided to increase the amount of wolfberrys(maybe 10-12). They worked very well. My conclusion until now is that they work better than fenugreek, for longer periods of time. I will update how i feel tomorrow, but it has been 5 hours since i take the wolfberrys, i ate a sweet dessert and i feel really good. I think that Habibou suggestion of wolfberry amount is the correct to maintain a good mind condition during the day.
where did you buy your berries i havnt felt anything yet.
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Try to find a website with "traditional Chinese cures" and try to find one from Tibet...
I have some websites for you, but it is in french, any matter?
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where did you buy your berries i havnt felt anything yet.
This are the goji berries i have bought: http://www.alliumherbal.biz/bayas-goji-100natural
(100% natural is a spanish brand, the only that sells goji berries from Tibet). I was advised by the woman on the herbs store to not buy the berrys from other places if i wanted to feel the positive effects that this berry has.
Today my POIS is gone and i have found certain relief. I´m going to abstain from O. until the next week because i need to enjoy this state after some bad POIS days. You will be updated on any possitive effect of this goji berries.
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Try to find a website with "traditional Chinese cures" and try to find one from Tibet...
I have some websites for you, but it is in french, any matter?
french one is cool i will just google translate. thanks.
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http://www.espritsante.com/boutique-29-1-Goji+du+Tibet+plateau+tibetain.html?gclid=CM7Q8Nboq6kCFcUMfAodMyO9Mw
There is 2 types of Goji, of course the most expensive is the best...i will buy more there too !
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thanks, i looked around the internet and found the exact one observer is using.
they called themselves aunthentic tibet and their berries are wild berries from tibet.
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How is goji going for u habibou am in my second week of trying
The first week wasnt that special wit goji I hope second week is better
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I had to stop for 10 days :s but i will restart asap !
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I had to stop for 10 days :s but i will restart asap !
Goji berrys are certainly having a possitive effect, and i will say that they are better than fenugreek *AFTER* the orgasm, to reduce the symptoms. *BEFORE* the orgasm, the best alternative for me is Fenugreek!
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Rutin is the main flavonoid in Goji berry. It has mast cell stabilizing properties. Chemistry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycium_chinense
https://www.mastattack.org/2015/09/naturally-occurring-mast-cell-stabilizers-part-1/
It also downregulates COX-2 and inhibits INOS.
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@Muon: Interesting link to it acting as a mast cell stabilizer. I've found success taking small amounts of olive oil to increase DAO activity.
I've actually found that Niacin can make my symptoms worse. Due to it increasing (or releasing?) histamine, and reducing DAO activity, if I recall correctly.
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Was eating fresh pomegranate for 2 month, and it worked, it managed pois pretty good but from consuming point of view it is not too convenient since I need to eat 2-3 a day (And watch your teeth, as it is acid, and especially don't take it with aspirin, I damaged the nerve on my leg just by sitting leg on leg for half an hour, still have tingling feelings and pain 3 month after, it somehow making the nerves itself very fragile). Stopped eating pomegranates since.
Tried Goji berries and it worked too, better, since you only need to choo a handful of it once or a few times a day. And the effect is very good. Completely shutting pois for me.
Break to smoke again since not doing it for a year and the anxiety and cough after orgasm came somewhat partially even with goji. The smoking is worsening the symptoms ( i am smoker for 12 years), quit smoking, it is severely worsening the symptoms.
Niacin not doing much for me though i tried it only for a few times since i have very bad skin allergy on it.
Goji is working for me, eating it for a month and the strength is not diminishing. Recommending it to try for all who haven't done so yet.
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How soon after starting eating goji berries did you get benefits ramore?
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20-30min
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20-30min
So the goji berries are more effective than the hCG injections? Timing is similar as cromolyn btw.