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Anyone have anxiety
« on: January 08, 2013, 11:21:41 PM »
I'm 18 years old and have suffered from pois for sure for about 3 or 4 yeara but trying to figure out some things Iwas curious if anyone has mild or severe anxiety? I have been previously diagnosed with mild anxiety a because I always had a problem with crowds or unfamiliar places and usually get stomach aches and random uncontrollable sweating...? Anyone else? Or does this not coorolate?

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 11:44:57 PM »
nickman, welcome! Yes, you will find many instances of anxiety here.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 03:11:23 PM »
I've always had severe social anxiety and that has worsened from POIS. Not only have the symptoms increased my anxiety indirectly by impairing my cognitive and physical strength and thus decreasing my self confidence, but also directly through some biological pathway.
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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 08:00:46 PM »
I also would look at it from the other perspective. Anxiety worsens your POIS symptoms. I think we're in some kind of feed-back loop, as stress can induce POIS-feeling(this has occurred to me in several occasions without having an Orgasm), but a POIS-feeling can cause more anxiety and stress. This surely would be investigated in the NORD research grant(we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, but if everyone helps with some amount- it does not matter how much-, we will have more answers very soon!)

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 08:11:03 PM »
The other day, a memory from 8 years ago came back to me.

Just 3 weeks- one month before getting POIS for first time after Orgasm, I had the high-school's end-year graduation so I had very mixed feelings at that moment. From one hand I was feeling very excited, but from the other hand I was also stressed with the final exams, and I did not want the end of the academic year(At this moment, it was probably the best year of my life!) . That day I felt some brain-fog, weird feeling that I'd describe now as an small POIS... That "strange episode" ended when the graduation's party began  ;D and it did not repeat itself after 1 month, when I began to experience the horrible POIS symptoms...

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 09:59:15 AM »
Hi,

I m not 100% sure but I think my POIS started after a period of stress and high anxiety. Anyway, lots of men have anxiety and very stressful lives and don?t have POIS. What I?m 100% sure is that my symptoms got worse after a period when I had been practicing lots of sport (I was preparing for a half marathon and was looking forward to doing a very good result) and at the same time I wasn?t eating correctly and found myself very fatigue for most of the time, but still kept training (I was trying to lose some weight and wasn?t eating enough). You have to add to all of this I had exams and also, I was applying to some job offers. I was quite stressed because of this.
Since my POIS got worse, I have been suffering from high anxiety, probably depression and panic attacks.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 07:25:46 PM »
I used to have social anxiety, but I couldn't really blame that on POIS. POIS did increase and initiate my anxieties but by forcing yourself to be in different social situations, you can help define yourself outside of POIS... and not make POIS define you!

With that said, when I am having symtoms of POIS, I become a completely different person. Introverted, and brain dead.

But in non-pois, I'm decently extrovert.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2013, 02:39:43 PM »
I used to have social anxiety, but I couldn't really blame that on POIS. POIS did increase and initiate my anxieties but by forcing yourself to be in different social situations, you can help define yourself outside of POIS... and not make POIS define you!

With that said, when I am having symtoms of POIS, I become a completely different person. Introverted, and brain dead.

But in non-pois, I'm decently extrovert.

There's such a crazy line between in-POIS and out of POIS, and what effects POIS has and what are just part of a regular you!

Most of us could probably say that we have had times out of POIS and that we feel much better, mentally and socially healthier, yet ACTUALLY
defining what is caused by POIS or what is latent in you and worsened or brought out by POIS is all a different thing.

You are right though Suppertime, that being conscious of at least the differences that are obvious, one can direct his activities and consciousness to
areas that are safe for the current condition.

It helps to remember who you really are (that good and real part of you that comes out when you have gone a good time without orgasm), when you are in full POIS.
It's so difficult and in POIS you become so immersed in this POIS personality that you hardly remember what it's like to be normal. But when you ARE normal,
it's really worth while soaking it in and trying to record it into your soul, so that you can remember it, if not feel it a little when you are the POIS monster.

It just occurred to me that one might try to record (on Video or audio) a message to yourself for when you are in POIS. If anyone wants to give that a try,
maybe you can let us know what happens.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 02:44:42 PM »
Audio/video in POIS is an interesting idea. In 30+ years of POIS, I never thought of doing that.
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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2013, 10:29:50 PM »
I have fear of public speaking. I went to psych doc and she thinks I have generalized anxiety. I was put on ssri once and it drove me nuts. I strongly believe that POIS and anxiety are related.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2013, 08:29:07 AM »
I think, our anxiety may be because of low initiative and thinking capacity during POIS

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2013, 01:41:07 PM »
I think, our anxiety may be because of low initiative and thinking capacity during POIS

Yes, that's what I thought at the beginning ; No I think it's quite the opposite ; Anxiety cause POIS  ; this summer I crashed emotionaly because of a bad job experience(due to POIS experienced)..I Was very stress and anxious about the future...My POIS symtoms was just worse that ever

I also figured that when I drink some beers, most of my POIS symtoms disapears

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2013, 05:50:09 AM »
Yes, it's a sort of vicious circle!

Stress aggravates POIS, POIS aggravates stress. Part of the POIS breakdown overstresses the weakend adrenal system.

Things like beer and marijuana therefore do help, at least to break the cycle for a while.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2013, 09:22:15 PM »
Crazy anxiety, tomorrow I'll be conversing with someone unfamiliar to me & that always gets me a bit anxious in the beginning. After a while the anxiety goes away as I become more familiar with the person. Without POIS though, it would be almost no problem and I'd have way more confidence.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2013, 09:25:36 AM »
There is something interesting about stress and anxiety ; It's an heritage of our cro magnon brain ; front of a danger, your reptilian brain will trigger a fight or flight reaction ; basicly I'll it the tiger or being eaten by it...your brain will release chemical in oder to prepare the body...That is suppose to happen 20 minutes...If it's too often you over consume the chemical involved in the danger reaction and get tired...there is a direct link here with adrenals...and adrenals fatigue

What is really interesting is the other function of anxiety is to focus in the problem until you solve it ; you face a danger, you need to solve and you can think only about it...when you focus, all the rest get blurry, fogged..it's like photography...POIS is a problem, It makes the future uncertain, creates anxiety, creates brain fog...build up POIS...and so on

When i have an O...I expect POIS to happen...it makes me anxious...it makes me focus so much on myself, what i feel, what I telle, etc...it's produce fatigue and brain fog...that makes me more anxious...and so on

Think about it...it's definitely helps..a lot

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2013, 10:12:02 AM »
Hey Lapoisse,Prancer,Daveman and all POISers i want to add something very important about the connection between anxiety/stress and POIS for me.

I find that if i stress too much myself,and think negative about POIS i get symptoms! I dont know how this is happening but it seems that in stressing
periods i get POIS symptoms without necessarily having masturbated or sexually aroused.

I have also mention it before but noone paid attention.Have you ever notice it too guys ? Are we talking about the same thing here ?
Its like a second cause of POIS for me.The symptoms arent in the same intensity as after ejaculation but still its symptoms.

I dont know if anyone gets symptoms when stressed (no matter if he is in a POIS session or not) but im sure that stress makes everyone symptoms worse.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2013, 10:40:06 AM »
Hey Lapoisse,Prancer,Daveman and all POISers i want to add something very important about the connection between anxiety/stress and POIS for me.

I find that if i stress too much myself,and think negative about POIS i get symptoms! I dont know how this is happening but it seems that in stressing
periods i get POIS symptoms without necessarily having masturbated or sexually aroused.

I have also mention it before but noone paid attention.Have you ever notice it too guys ? Are we talking about the same thing here ?
Its like a second cause of POIS for me.The symptoms arent in the same intensity as after ejaculation but still its symptoms.

I dont know if anyone gets symptoms when stressed (no matter if he is in a POIS session or not) but im sure that stress makes everyone symptoms worse.


I've noticed the following, especially that with Viagra I don't really have POIS anymore.

I am just about what I consider to be "normal". I forget that yesterday I had sex for instance, but stress or certain things trigger aches and pains that are similar to some POIS symptoms. This can be on day 1 or day 8. As you say, they aren't of the same magnitude, but can even provoke a light brain-fog, or particularly muscle or nerve pains.

My weakest point is my neck and soulders. If this inflames, I can get headaches, back aches, heart arythmias, and even brain-fog. The whole neck area is very important, there are a lot of nerves inter communicating there.

So stress can be very hard on that area, it's natural, you tense your shoulders and neck with tension. There's a reflex, to associate the pain/sensations with POIS, even though it may not be POIS. POIS, I know in my case, swells soft connective tissue, which of course will affect my already sensitive neck area. So years of this 1) makes the area more sensitive, and 2) sensitizes me to associative feelings, making it seem as though I have POIS when the area may be otherwise affected.

I was reading something the other day, I don't remember where now, where they actually showed that pain involves a lot more than the sensations of the precise point being "stimulated". Whole areas feel like they hurt when only a common center is stimulated, and visa-versa, when the surrounding area is stimulated, you believe that the central point is being stimulated.

Pain is very complex. A good deal of pain is in the memory and associated more with fear than with the pain itself.  Fear -> stress,  stress -> pain.

WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2013, 07:47:52 PM »
Hey Lapoisse,Prancer,Daveman and all POISers i want to add something very important about the connection between anxiety/stress and POIS for me.

I find that if i stress too much myself,and think negative about POIS i get symptoms! I dont know how this is happening but it seems that in stressing
periods i get POIS symptoms without necessarily having masturbated or sexually aroused.

I have also mention it before but noone paid attention.Have you ever notice it too guys ? Are we talking about the same thing here ?
Its like a second cause of POIS for me.The symptoms arent in the same intensity as after ejaculation but still its symptoms.

I dont know if anyone gets symptoms when stressed (no matter if he is in a POIS session or not) but im sure that stress makes everyone symptoms worse.


Yes, stress can trigger some symptoms for me too. Also for some reason I get bad pois symptoms sometimes after taking a hot shower.

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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2013, 03:54:28 PM »
Oh man, the anxiety is more apparent to me now. The past two month, I abstained from masturbation and sex. Felt almost zero anxiety. I didn't feel amazing but I felt normal at least. I even had job interviews and I felt confident in myself... didn't have much to hide.

I masturbated on Tuesday without ejaculation. I feel quite bad, groggy, and an overwhelming anxiety. I have an interview tomorrow and I don't feel ready for it - when I usually do.

And then it hit me, I remember in university when I was living in residence. I never wanted to leave my room. So before class I would be in my room gaming, and then after class I would go back to my room to avoid any social contact. And now I realize why I had that.


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Re: Anyone have anxiety
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2013, 12:25:34 AM »
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Oh man, the anxiety is more apparent to me now. The past two month, I abstained from masturbation and sex. Felt almost zero anxiety. I didn't feel amazing but I felt normal at least. I even had job interviews and I felt confident in myself... didn't have much to hide.

I masturbated on Tuesday without ejaculation. I feel quite bad, groggy, and an overwhelming anxiety. I have an interview tomorrow and I don't feel ready for it - when I usually do.

And then it hit me, I remember in university when I was living in residence. I never wanted to leave my room. So before class I would be in my room gaming, and then after class I would go back to my room to avoid any social contact. And now I realize why I had that.



In some occasions, when i feel bad due to POIS , i tend to avoid leaving home. But since this is an interview and you cant avoid, the best thing for you to do
is to relax and get ready for it in every way you can. In my experience, i find that if i dont stop stressing myself and worrying the symptoms will continue to be
unberable.So take it calm and smooth, and dont overworry. We dont really have any other choice (except if you have some treatment) so try not to make
things worser.Good luck man and be strong.