Niacinnamide + niacin works ,new step up

[vetrofragile79]

HI guys.. Niacin + niacinnamide works!
How it works:
The only niacin works for me on 50% Brainfog but the fatigue remains, as well as the difficulty of talking to people, the long-term memory unusable, the regression to a behavioral state child (very emotional and not rational), and the inability to plan in the medium to long term. The niacinnamide, when it works, it improves all of this and for the first time in 20 years I felt the smell of pine and sea I cried with emotion.

How much : I'm still experimenting but my dose is 1250-1500 mg niacinnamide after a "or" an empty stomach ;before "o" I take 200mg of niacin and flush waiting .. Does not always work and I have to figure out where mistake ..

 End of report

[Daveman]

HI guys.. Niacin + niacinnamide works!
How it works:
The only niacin works for me on 50% Brainfog but the fatigue remains, as well as the difficulty of talking to people, the long-term memory unusable, the regeressione to a behavioral state child (very emotional and not rational), and the inability to plan in the medium to long term. The niacinnamide, when it works, it improves all of this and for the first time in 20 years I felt the smell of pine and sea I cried with emotion.

How many : I'm still experimenting but my dose is 1250-1500 mg niacinnamide after a "or" an empty stomach ;before "o" I take 200mg of niacin and flush waiting .. Does not always work and I have to figure out where mistake .. but I am very confident.

 End of report

This sounds very interesting. I haven't tried niacinamide yet, so I will try to adapt your scheme to mine.

So to understand:
I'm not sure how you take the niacinamide. Is it after an "O" on an empty stomach?
You also take 200mg niacin before "O".

I undertand from others that you can take the niacinamide daily, about the same dose as you are taking, and that way it doesn't have to be on an empty stomach. It might help to stabalize the  performance.

[vetrofragile79]

Hi daveman I still do not understand completely how does the niacinnamide on me but when it works is really interesting.
So, before "o" I always take niacin 200mg because it gives me the flush,its a flag as u know... and after I take pills niacinamide (not open) empty stomach, or the next morning on an empty stomach and alway take 3 x 500.
Its high dosage i think,may be need to talk about it to doctor.

[Daveman]

Hi daveman I still do not understand completely how does the niacinnamide on me but when it works is really interesting.
So, before "o" I always take niacin 200mg because it gives me the flush,its a flag as u know... and after I take pills niacinamide (not open) empty stomach, or the next morning on an empty stomach and always take 3 pills of 1500.
Its high dosage i think,may be need to talk about it to doctor.

3 x 1500 sounds a litttle high. Your doctor might not have a clue about POIS, but he should know what dosage you can "resist".

Doctors aren't evenused to people taking 200mg of niacin. It's not "usual"...

Have you tried niacinamide before "O"?

I'm tempted to try it say Wednesday, Thurs. and Friday (2000mg each day), then Fri night 150mg niacin before "O"

[vetrofragile79]

3 x 500 mg sorry

I tried yesterday.. WORK!  1500 mg 2 hours before "o" on empty stomach work good may be better than niacin but no flush .
I wanted to try 1500 mg of niacinamide before "o" together with a supplement of b,  I can feel when it's effect because I have a kind of strang feeling, very personal impossible to describe, of course: is not comparable to  naicina's flush ..its like a mix of enhanced senses and the throat a bit

[vetrofragile79]

After a month of occasional use can support a speech in public, I feel much better, more than niacin. I feel more eloquent and better attention on study and homework.  I also forgot to take before an O and I did not have strong pois .. but much lighter. It 's like the niacinnamid had accumulated a little. I am recovering my strength faster than niacin.

I'm reading the book hoffer .. you know?

[vetrofragile79]

niacinnamide needs more time to completely cover .. It took  2-3 weeks, and even if I do not take a dose before 'or' it also covers

someone tried?

[Daveman]

niacinnamide needs more time to completely cover .. It took  2-3 weeks, and even if I do not take a dose before 'or' it also covers

someone tried?

I will try it. Have to find it first, will have to order on-line (Can't find it in Chile).

My niacin works great, but it's a real hastle to have to fast and be spontaneous when you are waiting for a flush that doesn't want to come.

Few have really tried niacinamide, although it's been mentioned by a few.

Basically the others have said the same, better to take it regularly and if you do, you don't have to take it before on empty stomach.

I suppose it would be good to check in with a doctor sometime within the first month and then regularly every 6 or so, or depending on what the doc. says.

Sometimes though, they may not understand why we need to take 1500 per day, nor believe that we have anything that requires it.

[vetrofragile79]

Hello daveman  probably niacin has the same effect as niacinnamide, but it is impossible to take 1500mg without burn in hell.
The niacinnamide turns into niacin after it has been assumed, but not so quickly as to create the burst of heat

[Daveman]

Hello daveman  probably niacin has the same effect as niacinnamide, but it is impossible to take 1500mg without burn in hell.
The niacinnamide turns into niacin after it has been assumed, but not so quickly as to create the burst of heat

I'm going to see if I can't order niacinamide today on line.!!

I guess the niacinamide when taken regularly, and given that it's a slower release, leaves niacin in your bloodstream always, so that whenever you want to have sex, it's there to protect you.

You can't do that with straight niacin, you'd need to be taking it every 4 hours or so!!!

[vetrofragile79]

I had to suspend the niacinnamide on a precautionary basis, the level of pruritus has risen dramatically is not passed, I think it involved the liver. Friday I have blood tests and a medical examination Monday. It 'a tragedy if I stop taking niacinnamide, today I had pois dots,  8 months without strong pois and now its terrible hit the road... , I am destroyed

[Daveman]

I had to suspend the niacinnamide on a precautionary basis, the level of pruritus has risen dramatically is not passed, I think it involved the liver. Friday I have blood tests and a medical examination Monday. It 'a tragedy if I stop taking niacinnamide, today I had pois dots,  8 months without strong pois and now its terrible hit the road... , I am destroyed

Had you any problems before?

That's the one good thing with niacin, is that it's taken in lower doses and ONLY before "O", so does less damage on the liver.

Sorry, hope we can find a working solution.

[poisperson]

I?ve had excellent results from niacinamide...until I started getting POIS on days 3 and 4. Then, instead of upping my dose - I was taking only 500mg (1 hour before O) - I switched to Nicotinic Acid (slow release! - it was the only version i could get hold of here in Argentina). Aware that it was slow release, I crushed the tablet and dissolved it in oil before ingesting, but despite getting a mild flush - a slight sunburn sensation across my face (only my face) - my reduction in POIS symptoms afterwards was at best 50% reduced (although perhaps I should give it some time - it{s only 6 hours ago since I did the O).

So the upshot is that, if i get POIS and it lasts for the normal 5 days, then when thats over I?ll be reverting with zeal to my jar of Nicotinamide tablets, this time taking 1000mg before O. Hopefully that will give me the same positive results as before without the return of symptoms on days 4 and 5. When it was working, boy was it working good - I even pulled off a best man?s speech for heaven?s sake!
 

[Daveman]

I?ve had excellent results from niacinamide...until I started getting POIS on days 3 and 4. Then, instead of upping my dose - I was taking only 500mg (1 hour before O) - I switched to Nicotinic Acid (slow release! - it was the only version i could get hold of here in Argentina). Aware that it was slow release, I crushed the tablet and dissolved it in oil before ingesting, but despite getting a mild flush - a slight sunburn sensation across my face (only my face) - my reduction in POIS symptoms afterwards was at best 50% reduced (although perhaps I should give it some time - it{s only 6 hours ago since I did the O).

So the upshot is that, if i get POIS and it lasts for the normal 5 days, then when thats over I?ll be reverting with zeal to my jar of Nicotinamide tablets, this time taking 1000mg before O. Hopefully that will give me the same positive results as before without the return of symptoms on days 4 and 5. When it was working, boy was it working good - I even pulled off a best man?s speech for heaven?s sake!
 

Often my first hours after taking  niacin are still a little rough. So I usually take niacin and "do the deed" before going to bed.

Once I wake up, I'm great. I may get slight effects when I get tired the second day.

But overall effect is like "cure" for me.

My only experience with slow release wasn't very good.

I live in Chile and buy my Niacin on line. You can't get it here.

If you have it imported by mail it gets through. One time with UPS, I couldn't get it in.

Everytime by mail it gets in  with no problems.