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Starsky

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Steinach operation as a method of treating POIS?
« on: June 18, 2012, 06:06:09 AM »
Davemen dont you think its intresting? By taking SLIT drops i feel more energy when i take them, i dont understand it...

"I also made a small (very small) contribution to SLSA myself. I gave a talk about reproduction and debt in two accounts of vasectomies: a novel published in 2002 by Steve Tomasula and Stephen Farrell entitled VAS: An Opera in Flatland (Chicago: University of Chicago UP, 2002) and early Austrian endocrinologist Eugen Steinach's memoir Sex and Life: Forty Years of Biological and Medical Experiments (New York: Viking, 1940). The novel is wild (read it!), but in this post I'm going to focus on Steinach's account of his procedure. In the early twentieth century, based on his research with rats, Steinach came to believe that performing a unilateral or bilateral vasoligature (tying off the vas deferens) would lead to rejuvenation in older males. He first performed this procedure on a man in 1918 and, due to its perceived wild success, became something of a medical celebrity in the 1920s. His procedure came to be called the Steinach Operation in order to differentiate it from a vasectomy proper, which at the time was used primarily to sterilize those deemed "unfit" for reproduction. A Steinach Operation, in contrast, could be either unilateral or bilateral (to be effective as contraception, vasectomies must be bilateral), and the force behind its promotion was tied not to contraception but instead to rejuventation. Steinach and his followers reported that after the procedure, formerly weak patients who were unfit for work felt reinvigorated and reborn. For example, Harry Benjamin, an early follower of Steinach, reported that his patients experienced an increase in strength, improvement in hearing, new growth of pigmented hair, reappareance of "mental buoyancy," return of ambition, desire for work, improvement of memory and concentration, general overall feeling of well-being, restoration of sexual potency, increase of libido, and better erections after the procedure. The force behind the operation, then, was tied to rejuvenating the aging body so it could perform better physically and economically. While Steinach and his followers stressed that although the improvement in sexual potency was nearly universal, it should not be the main motivation for undergoing the operation. Instead, the procedure allowed those formerly unfit for work to return and become productive members of society once again, thus temporarily postponing the deleterious economic consequences of aging.

There are many interesting and weird aspects of this history that I don't have the time or space to discuss here, but what I do want to share here is Steinach's fondness for before and after photos of his patients. Meant to illustrate the striking effectiveness of his procedure, the pictures occur in couples: first, a photo of a supposedly weak and feeble patient before the procedure; then, a photo of the supposedly restored, rejuvenated, and enlivened patient after the procedure. While most of Steinach's photos are of rats and sometimes dogs, the reports of his followers from the 1920s sometimes include before and after pictures of men. "
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Re: Steinach operation as a method of treating POIS?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 07:36:41 AM »
Hmmm,

I had my vasectomy (one could assume the same phenomenon would apply) between the ages of about 23 and 53.

What I most felt was freedom I guess. This of course is a positive feeling and could lead one to feel greater
feel more sexually verile, and therefore more energetic etc. Of course in the early years, from 23 to 35 I was
in a "horny" group anyways, also young fit and energetic.

But after 30 yrs of vasectomy, whatever vigor one might feel becomes commonplace and therefore not really
noticable.

Upon having the reversal, then you might expect a "downer"... which I really can't say I felt. Who
knows, it's possible that the vasectomy of 30 years built up a permenant condition!!

About 5 yrs after the reversal I got POIS..... and yes, THAT is a "downer"!
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Re: Steinach operation as a method of treating POIS?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 09:01:25 AM »
Did you have an open or close-ended vasectomy?

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Re: Steinach operation as a method of treating POIS?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 09:53:07 AM »
Not sure what they are, but the vas were "cut".

Many doctors removed a piece (an inch or so). My doctor just cut them and folded the excess back.

The doctor that did the reversal appreciated this very much.

WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!