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Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« on: December 07, 2021, 04:04:24 PM »
I noticed in one of poisers medical test results low iron ,
low ferritin but normal RBC , normal hemoglobin,
normal hematocrit lewels.

https://www.reddit.com/r/POIS/comments/r9kzxk/what_do_my_blood_tests_results_from_2021_august/







HWA: Hypoferritinemia without anemia a hidden hematology disorder
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5629903/

In quick search, there are ower 400 tipes of anemia..

Withouth proper oxigenation , no organ can work properly in body...
« Last Edit: December 07, 2021, 04:07:01 PM by Hopeoneday »
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Re: Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2021, 06:35:14 PM »
The post in question is mine

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Re: Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2021, 10:25:37 PM »
I have high ferritin on the other hand. About 500. Diagnosed with Hemochromatosis. Not the inherited type.  Hematologist thinks it could be caused by inflammation.  No Iron stored in liver. So Iron levels in POIS/CFS  is a complex.
Simultaneous onset of CFS and POIS since Feb 1993. Married since 1989.

Helped by Immunocal (I explained how to take in previous posts).  Some relief on day one and day two.  It affects neurotransmitters.

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Re: Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2021, 11:21:14 AM »
So maybe it's not related. EDIT: Sorry, did not want to discredit that theory. Ignore that part of my post. I'm interested because I feel nutrition can cause or fix so many things. When vegans complain about health problems then I'm raging in my mind because I think "duh!"

Journey, do you feel better when eating more iron sources like beef etc?

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Re: Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2021, 01:12:53 PM »
Hidden anemias are not that easy to be diagnosed, and
treated.
You need expert specialist for this..
For exemple, in Journey case low feritin can affect on tyroid.. etc
.. no ordinary doc will tell you this..

Intresting, hemocromatosis can be coused by
certain kinds of anemia, liver disease etc..

It will be intresting to see, how comon is hidden
undiagnosed anemia in pois population..
« Last Edit: December 08, 2021, 01:17:25 PM by Hopeoneday »
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Re: Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2021, 03:53:22 PM »
Intresting..
My journey from despondency to freedom.
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Re: Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2021, 04:27:50 PM »
So maybe it's not related. EDIT: Sorry, did not want to discredit that theory. Ignore that part of my post. I'm interested because I feel nutrition can cause or fix so many things. When vegans complain about health problems then I'm raging in my mind because I think "duh!"

Journey, do you feel better when eating more iron sources like beef etc?
A bit I think

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Re: Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2023, 02:53:39 PM »
I've updated my initial post to reflect my new findings. My ferritin had been 17 ng/ml. My symptoms resolved after of 900mg of iron sucrose infused over 5 different sessions (200, 200, 200, 100, 200).
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Re: Hidden anemia in poisers like Hypoferritinemia
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2023, 03:03:06 PM »
https://forums.phoenixrising.me/threads/weird-blood-test-results-can-you-help-interpret.90152/post-2436178 :-[

I am  :o how chatGPT diagnosed his blod test results and explaned all.

I asked chatGPT and it said:

Your lab results indicate that you have an increased number of red blood cells (RBCs) and hematocrit (HCT) but low mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH) and mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC). The normocytic term indicates that your red blood cells are of normal size, while hypochromic suggests that they have less color than normal, implying lower than normal amounts of hemoglobin, the molecule in red blood cells that carries oxygen.
Iron deficiency is a common cause of hypochromic anemia, but you mention that your iron panel is completely normal. This rules out the most common cause, but there can be several other potential reasons behind these results.
One possibility is thalassemia, which is a genetic blood disorder that can cause a microcytic hypochromic anemia. However, your cells are not microcytic (smaller than normal), they are normocytic (normal size), so this seems less likely.
Another potential cause could be a condition called anemia of chronic disease (also known as anemia of inflammation), which can occur in people with diseases that cause long-term inflammation, like autoimmune diseases, infections, and cancer. This can sometimes present with normocytic, hypochromic red cells. In these cases, the body has adequate iron but can't use it effectively to make hemoglobin.
The increased number of RBCs and HCT could suggest polycythemia, a condition where your body produces too many red blood cells. This can thicken your blood and cause complications. However, polycythemia usually results in hyperchromic (more color), not hypochromic red blood cells.
One rare possibility is sideroblastic anemia, a group of disorders characterized by anemia and the presence of ringed sideroblasts in the bone marrow. Sideroblasts are iron-loaded mitochondria in developing red cells. In this case, iron is available, but the cells are not capable of incorporating it into hemoglobin, leading to hypochromic cells despite normal iron levels.
It's essential that you consult with a healthcare professional to interpret these results and guide you on the next steps, which could include further testing or a referral to a hematologist. This information should be considered as potential possibilities and not as a definitive diagnosis or medical advice.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2023, 03:31:55 PM by Hopeoneday »
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