Maybe POIS is Chronic Fatigue Syndrone?!

[maybechange]

Hi everyone,

I always dismissed this theory but I was watching a tedx talk titled "What if you have a disease doctors can't diagnose". And when she was mentioning the symptoms lasting 7 days it rang a bell. I mean some pictures/cases she showed were a lot more severe than the POIS cases I know. But she was saying that severity varies.

And if I remember correct she also mentioned throat problems. Although now recently I have found something that alleviates the fatigue to a large degree in my case, I remember a lot of times where I spent 5-7 days basically lying in bed. Fatigue, heartpounding etc.

I don't know if people with CFS have some of the symptoms such as i creased heart rate, social anxiety. But maybe in some cases it's the same illness but triggered by ejaculation?

[swell]

MaybeChange, dont get caught into CFS crap.  POIS is due to nutritional deficiencies that doctors do not recognize.  Based on your genetics, your body has a harder time to metabolize certain nutrients, and added to whamy is when that particular incoming nutrient is already reduced in your diet, and further added to the whamy is when you supplement it in the wrong form.  Case in point, Folate / Folic / Methyl Folate / Folinic.  There are many other examples.  Unfortunately, the solution of POIS lies in your ability to garner research, understand your body, and then carefully experiment, or take guidance of a real knowledgeable practitioner. 

I have miserably suffered from POIS for 3 decades.  And now I have a e (ejaculation) 3 times daily and in fact I feel better after it then before it.   I miserably toiled here on this forum, trying to find answers, but I couldn't find it all.  I would advice is to use this forum (and use google) for understanding medical profession itself.  You'd be suprised how much doctors dont know yet, how much researchers dont know yet.  Your knowledge will soon equal theirs, and thats I guarantee you, at that time you will absolutely conquer POIS. 

[Journey]

MaybeChange, dont get caught into CFS crap.  POIS is due to nutritional deficiencies that doctors do not recognize.  Based on your genetics, your body has a harder time to metabolize certain nutrients, and added to whamy is when that particular incoming nutrient is already reduced in your diet, and further added to the whamy is when you supplement it in the wrong form.  Case in point, Folate / Folic / Methyl Folate / Folinic.  There are many other examples.  Unfortunately, the solution of POIS lies in your ability to garner research, understand your body, and then carefully experiment, or take guidance of a real knowledgeable practitioner. 

I have miserably suffered from POIS for 3 decades.  And now I have a e (ejaculation) 3 times daily and in fact I feel better after it then before it.   I miserably toiled here on this forum, trying to find answers, but I couldn't find it all.  I would advice is to use this forum (and use google) for understanding medical profession itself.  You'd be suprised how much doctors dont know yet, how much researchers dont know yet.  Your knowledge will soon equal theirs, and thats I guarantee you, at that time you will absolutely conquer POIS.

How to fix it? If it's nutritional deficiency why I had 0POIS by 1 NE, 2 O when sick, after it returned?

[Journey]

MaybeChange, dont get caught into CFS crap.  POIS is due to nutritional deficiencies that doctors do not recognize.  Based on your genetics, your body has a harder time to metabolize certain nutrients, and added to whamy is when that particular incoming nutrient is already reduced in your diet, and further added to the whamy is when you supplement it in the wrong form.  Case in point, Folate / Folic / Methyl Folate / Folinic.  There are many other examples.  Unfortunately, the solution of POIS lies in your ability to garner research, understand your body, and then carefully experiment, or take guidance of a real knowledgeable practitioner. 

I have miserably suffered from POIS for 3 decades.  And now I have a e (ejaculation) 3 times daily and in fact I feel better after it then before it.   I miserably toiled here on this forum, trying to find answers, but I couldn't find it all.  I would advice is to use this forum (and use google) for understanding medical profession itself.  You'd be suprised how much doctors dont know yet, how much researchers dont know yet.  Your knowledge will soon equal theirs, and thats I guarantee you, at that time you will absolutely conquer POIS.

How to fix it? If it's nutritional deficiency why I had 0POIS by 1 NE, 2 O when sick, afterwards it returned?

[aswinpras06]

Excellent explanation Swell. 

I have read your previous posts and found that you have successfully managed your chronic nasal congestion and thin epithilial layers in nose,mouth and gut by using growth factors.  Can you please provide more information on what growth factors you have used and how you overcame nasal dryness.  Thanks in advance.  This would be of immense help to me .

[maybechange]

MaybeChange, dont get caught into CFS crap.  POIS is due to nutritional deficiencies that doctors do not recognize.  Based on your genetics, your body has a harder time to metabolize certain nutrients, and added to whamy is when that particular incoming nutrient is already reduced in your diet, and further added to the whamy is when you supplement it in the wrong form.  Case in point, Folate / Folic / Methyl Folate / Folinic.  There are many other examples.  Unfortunately, the solution of POIS lies in your ability to garner research, understand your body, and then carefully experiment, or take guidance of a real knowledgeable practitioner. 

I have miserably suffered from POIS for 3 decades.  And now I have a e (ejaculation) 3 times daily and in fact I feel better after it then before it.   I miserably toiled here on this forum, trying to find answers, but I couldn't find it all.  I would advice is to use this forum (and use google) for understanding medical profession itself.  You'd be suprised how much doctors dont know yet, how much researchers dont know yet.  Your knowledge will soon equal theirs, and thats I guarantee you, at that time you will absolutely conquer POIS.

Thank you for the reply. So, I see you cured POIS with diet?!
That's fantastic, I'm happy for you.
Did you have an official diagnosis and did you find your cure by the guidance of doctors or stumbled on it entirely by yourself?

[berlin1984]

I have miserably suffered from POIS for 3 decades.  And now I have a e (ejaculation) 3 times daily and in fact I feel better after it then before it.   I miserably toiled here on this forum, trying to find answers, but I couldn't find it all.  I would advice is to use this forum (and use google) for understanding medical profession itself.  You'd be suprised how much doctors dont know yet, how much researchers dont know yet.  Your knowledge will soon equal theirs, and thats I guarantee you, at that time you will absolutely conquer POIS.

Thank you for the reply. So, I see you cured POIS with diet?!
That's fantastic, I'm happy for you.
Did you have an official diagnosis and did you find your cure by the guidance of doctors or stumbled on it entirely by yourself?

He writes:

Hello Vandermolen, I believe you, completely.  I dont like to give this advice, but I am going to:

I believe, dry skin, thinner epithelium layer, breaking apart mucus membranes, these are halmarks (to me) for POIS.  Sjogrens has same symptoms.  Chances are your doc will suspect Sjogrens, however upon advanced testing (i.e. anti-bodies), Sjogrens will be ruled out.  I believe, our thinner epithelium is also the cause for POIS, skin and brain symptoms - skin symptoms being, dry eyes - I used to even get growth under eyelids, dry esophagus (making me susceptible to sore-throat, various allergies), weaker muscles, etc.  And brain symptoms being brainfog, emotional state, anxiety, speech, etc.

I am mostly POIS free now, and trying to get off the too many supplements I take.  I believe, you have to do 2 things:

a) change your diet.  Eat high-fat (healthy fats - plenty of them), and simultaneously reduce your Carbs to minimum. 
b) take 'growth' supplements to help your mucus membranes heal, gut lining grow/heal, epithelium to thicken. 
c) resolve your digestion issues.  Betaine HCL, Digestion enzymes, Bile Salts (purified).

@swell could you go into detail what are 'growth' supplements?