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Water on POIS
« on: October 09, 2019, 08:42:55 PM »
DISCLAIMER: This is my personal opinion, and I'm not recommending it to anybody. I'm not a doctor either.

I have been drinking a lot of water and salt. It has been making a huge difference in my energy levels.
I found out this:
https://www.watercures.org/natural-antihistamine.html

It says that water and salt act like the best anti histamines in the world.
As you may know, many people here are discussing about the effects of histamine on POIS. We want to reduce it. I found out one of the best ways to do this is cutting coffee which dehydrates de body, and drinking 4 liters of water a day, with himalayan salt.
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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2019, 07:46:13 AM »
interesting...

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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2019, 10:11:27 AM »
I think so, too Aladin
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2019, 02:50:10 PM »
Used to drank gallons for years and alot of salt including himalayan salt. All it did was flushing minerals and nutrients out of the body, that is what water does at higher amounts - it's a solvent and at higher amounts it actually dehydrates and causes electrolyte imbalance. It only made muscle weakness worse.

i don't see how this is beneficial... might as well take 2 anti-histamine tablets

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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2019, 11:17:31 AM »
I also get huge benefits from drinking four litres of water a day and I don't even need to use salt with it. That in addition with heavy weight lifting, avoiding high gi foods or high histamine foods seems to be all contributing massively to my general wellbeing.

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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2019, 05:14:38 PM »
I also get huge benefits from drinking four litres of water a day and I don't even need to use salt with it. That in addition with heavy weight lifting, avoiding high gi foods or high histamine foods seems to be all contributing massively to my general wellbeing.

This works for me too although I drink 3 liters (not the recommended 2 liters - 8 cups).
« Last Edit: October 15, 2019, 05:16:16 PM by Limejuice »

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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2019, 12:43:11 AM »
Limejuice, think I could try this with TRT?
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TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2019, 12:57:34 PM »
During summer I drink 3 to 5 liters of water. But I need to add salt in water to balance the loss.
I noted salt decreases muscle termors symptom.
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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2019, 02:14:25 PM »
Limejuice, think I could try this with TRT?

Seems fairly safe to me and might elevate levels of free testosterone slightly with the increase of blood circulation. Kidney’s can remove 5gal of water/day, and study’s show nutrient removal starts with +2gal/day. I’m sure patient size/weight is an important variable too. So 3/4 gal (or 3 liters) seems relatively safe :)

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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2019, 06:31:18 PM »
Thank you, Limejuice
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2020, 02:30:00 PM »
What is the water drinking is not only about water, but also about the minerals/electrolytes?

Things like gatorade or special salt (with potassium, magnesium, zinc, ...) should help more then? Or the electroyte drinks against diarrhea (although those don't contain magnesium).

I'm investigating this topic now for general weakness/fatigue, please join me :-)

EDIT:
At POTS fora they use gatorade for dehydration. It isn't POIS but sharing anyway. I'm only thirsty when I'm transitioning out of POIS. Perhaps something going on with osmotic regulation.

Sounds obvious but I'm not just talking about after ejaculation.  I am talking about throughout the day and leading up to ejaculation.  Water dilates the blood vessels and gives them pressure.

After I drink water I notice that I feel both more relaxed and normal and able to think more clearly.

Then the key is to have an ejaculation while not tensing up -- keep the PC muscle open and relaxed (do level exercises).

You can also search the forum for the term electrolytes.
Sports professionals use electrolyte supplements and protein shakes for a reason!?
« Last Edit: August 17, 2020, 02:39:17 PM by berlin1984 »
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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2020, 02:09:36 PM »
Used to drank gallons for years and alot of salt including himalayan salt. All it did was flushing minerals and nutrients out of the body, that is what water does at higher amounts - it's a solvent and at higher amounts it actually dehydrates and causes electrolyte imbalance. It only made muscle weakness worse.
I have been drinking a lot of water and salt. It has been making a huge difference in my energy levels.

You might be interested in this blog post.
(I'm seeing POIS as part of the syndrome around ME/CFS/POTS and whatever else there is going on)

Oral Rehydration Solution More Effective than Saline IV at Improving Orthostatic Intolerance
https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2020/09/15/saline-ors-oral-rehydration-pots-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/
"A recent study indicated that most people with ME/CFS, when they have POTS or orthostatic hypotension or not, have reduced blood flows to the brain."
"Many people try to increase their blood volume by adding salt to water. Drinking large amounts of salt water, however, can be dangerous ? and Medow reported that ?conventional oral hydration? techniques are not effective in improving orthostatic intolerance. Drinking a lot of salt water will cause the water to go into the tissues ? not the circulation. Then the sodium has to be excreted ? potentially causing declines in potassium."
"The ORS Medow used derived from the World Health Organization formula and contained glucose (dextrose) ? not sucrose.  Plus it?s vital that the ingredients be combined in the specific portions specified by the WHO.
The glucose/salt combination creates an osmotic gradient consistent which produces ?nearly complete fluid and salt absorption via the intestinal Na+-glucose co-transport (GLUT2,symporter) carrier?"


EDIT: I'm now trying German alcohol-free wheat beer for rehydrating, mixed with lemone containing vitamin C, sprinkled with some normal salt.
"Sport doctors say non-alcoholic wheat beer boosts athletes' health"
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-06/tum-sds060811.php
« Last Edit: September 17, 2020, 02:18:39 AM by berlin1984 »
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Re: Water on POIS
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2020, 07:24:43 PM »
That's interesting. So things like Rehydron should be helpful according to your theory, right Berlin?