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Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« on: June 30, 2014, 06:55:10 AM »
So I have been increasing my Niacin dosage almost everyday to get the flush. Already up to 800 mgs. Other than a light tingly warmth on my lower back a couple times, I still really haven't gotten the flush yet. I know you're not suppose to take it every day, but I wanted to so I can find where the exact sweet spot amount is. I've also been taking the Nature's Way "nicotinic acid" as suggested by this forum. While doing some research on it, I read that if you haven't gotten the flush yet, that means that your body hasn't gotten enough of it yet, or that is how much your body needed it. Anyway, just curious if anyone had any suggestions. Thanks in advance :)

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 12:33:19 PM »
The 1st flush I have I thought I am going to have heart attack, didn't know what was flush lol
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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 01:01:29 PM »
That has happened to me before. Something I try that causes the flush to occur much faster is open up the capsules and pour them in a blender (it doesn't mix well by hand for some reason) with 1 cup water, and blend for about 20 seconds until the niacin is dissolved into the water. Then drink the liquid. The flush occurs much faster this way because it's already dissolved. The only negative thing about this is the taste. I can't stand the taste, but it's really not too bad after you drink it, especially if you drink a cup of pure water after.

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 02:19:00 PM »
The last time I took niacin (nicotinic acid) was a year ago, because I cannot achieve a flushing response without feeling ill from the high amount of niacin I need. I stopped at 1500 mg. I also could not seem to get a good flush. I used to be able to get one with 200 mg.

I am on some medications that may be responsible for this. My liver is under a heavy load already. Are you on any meds, mentaldetective? I use natural anti-inflammatories now, to similar effect. They really help reduce symptoms.

Find some concentrated tumeric (curcumin), and see if taking it helps

http://www.newchapter.com/force-of-the-whole/turmeric-force

http://www.europharmausa.com/products/curamed-750-mg/

I take Curamed with their other product, Bos-Cure. I really need to make a big post on this guys, I have found this approach to be fantastic. Even better than when niacin was working for me. Curcumin works really well for me as an anti inflammatory.
Turmeric and Rosemary 30-45 minutes before orgasm for anti-inflammatory and immune support has helped me a lot. Faster and easier than niacin approach.

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 07:31:40 PM »
Don't eat for 3 hours before taking Niacin. Flush is easy to obtain then. 300MG on empty stomach gives me good flush.
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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2014, 03:27:18 PM »
I read your post about curcuma and you convinced me to try again. Inflammation, inflammation, inflammation.
The supplement you take has 500mg of pure curcumin per cap.
According to my datas : 1 gramm of curcuma powder = 65 mg of curcumin
So 7gr ~~ 500mg

Pepper is very important for a good absorbtion of curcumin

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2014, 05:44:55 PM »
So I have been increasing my Niacin dosage almost everyday to get the flush. Already up to 800 mgs. Other than a light tingly warmth on my lower back a couple times, I still really haven't gotten the flush yet. I know you're not suppose to take it every day, but I wanted to so I can find where the exact sweet spot amount is. I've also been taking the Nature's Way "nicotinic acid" as suggested by this forum. While doing some research on it, I read that if you haven't gotten the flush yet, that means that your body hasn't gotten enough of it yet, or that is how much your body needed it. Anyway, just curious if anyone had any suggestions. Thanks in advance :)

I understand that taking it often, reduces the "flush threshold". So taking it everyday will probably mean that you require more each time. So it seems you'll never find the "sweet spot".
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Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2014, 05:47:47 PM »
That has happened to me before. Something I try that causes the flush to occur much faster is open up the capsules and pour them in a blender (it doesn't mix well by hand for some reason) with 1 cup water, and blend for about 20 seconds until the niacin is dissolved into the water. Then drink the liquid. The flush occurs much faster this way because it's already dissolved. The only negative thing about this is the taste. I can't stand the taste, but it's really not too bad after you drink it, especially if you drink a cup of pure water after.

That's interesting. I'll have to try that. I don't mind the taste. I often put it under the tongue if I want a faster reaction.

If I take a capsule of 100 and I don't get the flush, I take 50 more under the tongue. The response from under the tongue is like 5 minutes. It doesn't work much faster for the first 100 though.

WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 11:20:03 PM »
I was having a hard time getting the flushing reaction so I switched to 500mg tablets, and it makes it a lot easier for me find the right dosage. Instead of taking tons of pills where I lose track of how many I've taken, now I just take 2-4
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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2014, 04:11:39 PM »
Thanks everyone for your replies! I finally got the flush and it only happened with 300mg on an empty stomach, and it hit me hard! I was bright red all over like a really bad sunburn and it was sooo hot and itchy. Kinda scary, but I knew it wouldn't last too long. Guess I should listened when people said to do it on an empty stomach. The only issue I am worried about is, I felt like I couldn't get an erection till the next day. It's almost like the flush counteracted my sex drive to not even wanting it all. I'll experiment with it some more.

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2014, 06:35:12 PM »
NOTE: you only get about an hours protection after a niacin flush.
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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2014, 10:06:53 AM »
I made a last test with 10-12g of curcuma + pepper.
Then I will try something else : DHA and Taurine.
I read some interesting things about these supplements and vision, which is a symptom of Pois.

I don't know why but I'm optimistic today ! Keep hope !

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 11:37:25 AM »
NOTE: you only get about an hours protection after a niacin flush.
Thanks for reminder on that FB, as I tried Niacin again last w/e, only 4 hours from food, had more minor flush, and may have left it over an hour before we did the deed.

I was not good next two days. I will persist and try get dose, flush & timing correct next time.

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Re: Lots of niacin........ still no flush, what do I do?
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 04:57:35 PM »
I made a last test with 10-12g of curcuma + pepper.
Then I will try something else : DHA and Taurine.
I read some interesting things about these supplements and vision, which is a symptom of Pois.

I don't know why but I'm optimistic today ! Keep hope !

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