I am the worst POIS sufferer

[chen1995]

Hi  

  After reading lots of threads in this forum, I found that my sympotom was the worst of all, if not taking into account those who already killed themselves.

 At the onset of my POIS(2008), it was just some mild fatigue for  2 to 3 days after an O. Now I am completely disabled and unable to work because I just can't take any responsiblity any more. My brain can't handle any pressure any more. POIS seems to permanantly destroyed my brain.


My condition significantly deteriorated after I was prescribed with Mirtazapine. In 2009, I was already affected by some of the POIS sympotoms such as fatigue and insomnia that nagtively affected my study. But I still had some sorta control over my body. So I was prescribed with Mirtazapine. After I took it, the medication simply made me very numb and unable to think. It was like I was half-dead. The only thing I could do was breathing. And even that seemed so hard for me to do. The medication worsened my insomnia. I was on sleeping pills ever since.

 There was a time when I was so badly tortured by POIS (depression) so I masturbated 3 times that day in hope for a miracle. Something wierd happened. After the third ejaculation of that day, I felt totally drained like all my energy was gone and strangely the depression was gone with it. But I couldnt focus on anything any more. I felt like a ghost floating around everyday I couldn't do anything and my muscles were complete soft like there was no blood in them anymore.  

After that masturbation spree(in the summer), I miraculously had about 2-week good night sleep and no urge to masturbate. Then things got nasty again since the weather got colder. During the period after the masturbation spree, my body wasn't sensitive to temperature change any more and it was just generally cold like there was never enough energy to produce heat. Until one morning I woke up, I felt my nerves were burning inside me and I could barely breath. It was like hell then I realized I actually forgot to put my cover on me that night. I slept over a night that was a little cold with absolutely nothing on my body. I guess that's why my body started acting abnormally. Since then, I started suffering again.


    

[Daveman]

Hi  

  After reading lots of threads in this forum, I found that my sympotom was the worst of all, if not taking into account those who already killed themselves.

 At the onset of my POIS(2008), it was just some mild fatigue for  2 to 3 days after an O. Now I am completely disabled and unable to work because I just can't take any responsiblity any more. My brain can't handle any pressure any more. POIS seems to permanantly destroyed my brain.


My condition significantly deteriorated after I was prescribed with Mirtazapine. In 2009, I was already affected by some of the POIS sympotoms such as fatigue and insomnia that nagtively affected my study. But I still had some sorta control over my body. So I was prescribed with Mirtazapine. After I took it, the medication simply made me very numb and unable to think. It was like I was half-dead. The only thing I could do was breathing. And even that seemed so hard for me to do. The medication worsened my insomnia. I was on sleeping pills ever since.

 There was a time when I was so badly tortured by POIS (depression) so I masturbated 3 times that day in hope for a miracle. Something wierd happened. After the third ejaculation of that day, I felt totally drained like all my energy was gone and strangely the depression was gone with it. But I couldnt focus on anything any more. I felt like a ghost floating around everyday I couldn't do anything and my muscles were complete soft like there was no blood in them anymore.  

After that masturbation spree(in the summer), I miraculously had about 2-week good night sleep and no urge to masturbate. Then things got nasty again since the weather got colder. During the period after the masturbation spree, my body wasn't sensitive to temperature change any more and it was just generally cold like there was never enough energy to produce heat. Until one morning I woke up, I felt my nerves were burning inside me and I could barely breath. It was like hell then I realized I actually forgot to put my cover on me that night. I slept over a night that was a little cold with absolutely nothing on my body. I guess that's why my body started acting abnormally. Since then, I started suffering again.


    

I would try to get off that Mirtazapine!! The way it was before has got to be better than now!

Those psychologists, psychiatrists should be shot! They give out dangerous drugs like they were candy!

POIS is not an affliction that requires these kinds of drugs.

Go to a general practicioner and see about weaning off of the Mirtazapine. Don't do it alone or try to stop overnight. But get off the stuff

[chen1995]

 Exactly! Daveman, I think you are definitely right. Before I took it, my POIS was bad but not irreversable. I could get a lot better by taking a few days break and having enough sleep.
After the Mirtazapine nightmare, I am literally half-dead. It took half of my life from me. I am never able to get back to the way it was before. I think I am cureless now...

[Colm]

Chen,

Yes, I have also been down the road of being on something for depression a long time back. Took me a long time to "wean" myself off it, very gradually is a must. I have avoided any of these for a long time, and have just preferred mainly using different holistic approaches to POIS symptom reduction and keeping physically as well as possible.

As Daveman emphasises, don't stop suddenly. Try find a GP who will work with you on a more general level, rather than just a tablet approach. You MAY benefit from one of these types of drugs, as others do. However, they usual work best, when combined with some other strategy, be it counselling or physical exercise or a wellness strategy etc.

My heart goes out to you man, as you are obviously younger than I, so it is more difficult to reduce the need for regular masturbation. I have been there. It is shocking in truth that avoidance of any sexual activities can be a help to a POIS sufferer.  

Your reactions to Mirtazapine may indicate this is not a drug for you. Please get good balanced medical advice and keep on a wellness track. As GP's don't know POIS, best stick to what happens to you, rather putting a label on yourself, when they only believe in anything with medical validation studies behind it. On the way it appears.

Is it also feasible that it is something other than POIS that is equally at play here for you. Please don't give up on yourself or the possibility of being well some day in the not too distant future. A lot is happening out there with POIS research and other things to try.

I am happy that I have not given up, as there were many times I felt like it. Had I done so, I would not have found new hope, learned out about POIS and that others had this, and that something is being done by a seriously committed bunch of guys and the dedicated work of the Moderator here.  

[Chris]

Chen trust me , there are members here who have equally passed what you are going through and worser than that.You are just desperate.
I have been in same conditions many times before and sometimes i still am.Its true that POIS in some of us (maybe most of us) make us unbarable even to live.But
you have to fight back.Try find a temporary solution throught this forum,thats why it was made for and something that works for you.Try making your POIS more liveable
and wait for the solution.Its not far.Anything you need, you can ask us.We will help you.Dont lose hope.We will find a way.

[chen1995]

Thank you guys so much. I really do. I simply feel better by sharing my thoughts with you. I will try to live as long as I can.

The biggest reason I feel hopeless is this: The symptoms for hormonal cause of POIS are very similar to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, as I compared many sufferers. Their symptoms actually overlap a lot. Lots of patients feel the symptoms constantly even without O. However modern medicine can't really cure  CFS so they probably can't cure POIS (of hormonal cause) either. Those who are subjected to the allergy cause are the lucky ones but I am not one of them

[Daveman]

Thank you guys so much. I really do. I simply feel better by sharing my thoughts with you. I will try to live as long as I can.

The biggest reason I feel hopeless is this: The symptoms for hormonal cause of POIS are very similar to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, as I compared many sufferers. Their symptoms actually overlap a lot. Lots of patients feel the symptoms constantly even without O. However modern medicine can't really cure  CFS so they probably can't cure POIS (of hormonal cause) either. Those who are subjected to the allergy cause are the lucky ones but I am not one of them

CFS is similar to POIS in that a cure hasn't been found yet, this does not mean that it has been proven that there is no cure for it. There is a tendancy toward there being some autoimmune cause in CFS.

Similarly, (and even moreso, POIS has been much less researched than CFS) POIS probably has neither a hormonal cause nor an allergy cause. It is possible that these two virtual causes are  indirect results of a root problem, but "feel like" they are at the root. They appear to be caused by one or the other. For this reason, when looking for a cure, it is usually a bad idea to try to fix it in the same way that you fix something the feels like what you have. Researchers don't do that. Of course they use symptoms to help diagnose, but not to find cures. They may look for remedies that temporarily eleviate symptoms based on other infermities that feel the same, but not cures.

It is more likely that there is an auto-immune cause that unbalances to different extentes, other systems which generate the same symptoms. If not (auto-immune, some other roots that are at the base of the spin-off irritants.

So have faith, your cause is still not lost.
 

[Stef]

Thank you guys so much. I really do. I simply feel better by sharing my thoughts with you. I will try to live as long as I can.

The biggest reason I feel hopeless is this: The symptoms for hormonal cause of POIS are very similar to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, as I compared many sufferers. Their symptoms actually overlap a lot. Lots of patients feel the symptoms constantly even without O. However modern medicine can't really cure  CFS so they probably can't cure POIS (of hormonal cause) either. Those who are subjected to the allergy cause are the lucky ones but I am not one of them

Hi Chen,

Regarding CFS and POIS -- they're probably not related at all!  Some of the symptoms may be similar -- but this doesn't mean they're related conditions. (A viral origin is thought to be a possible cause of CFS.)  Additionally, CFS is not related to ejaculation in any way, and it effects men and women equally.

It sounds like your biggest need right now is to get off of that mirtazapine. -- with the guidance of your physician.  This might sound counter-intuitive, but I think it might be wise to have a psychiatrist help you taper off this drug. (It doesn't need to be the same one who put you on it.)  It can be done safely and completely -- but during the process, a doc needs to monitor you for withdrawal effects (which you might not even get -- it could go rather smoothly!).

Please don't try to figure out what POIS is, or which type you have (there's probably only one "type" -- which may require different treatments for different people).  Once that root cause is discovered -- the treatments will follow quickly!

There's every reason for hope, Chen!!

And just look at the men on this forum -- they're all rooting for you! You're not alone!  

Stef