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[kurtosis]

Thanks for the numbers JP. Sounds pretty exhausting.

How are you doing in between sessions?

Sounds like the Kurtosis regime started to produce fatigue? As I understand this can be an initial consequence as the system readjusts.
 Is it still helping the POIS any?

I don't know if that's what he's saying. Perhaps the desens is producing fatigue?
Either way, let's let JP give us some more detail

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Let's let JP give us some more detail

Yes. I agree.

[jotape_chile]

Hi everyone...
Now recovered from my two-day POIS symptoms.

Let me answer to your questions:

Daveman: Between sessions I do OK. I only get the POIS the same day and the day after (as if I have had an O). Undergoing the Kurtosis method I've been able to reduce POIS symptoms, but at the same time I get a massive physical fatigue after an O or desenz injection. I am not taking methionine at the moment. Reducing the concentration and getting no symptoms sounds logical, but at the moment I prefer to continue going up until a 1/1 concentration.

Vande: I'm having a shot every 4-5 weeks. Next is on December 12th. To be honest, besides the positive effects of going with the Kurtosis method, I still get the POIS after and O or injection. Hopefully when I get to 1/1 I will start feeling better.

Kurtosis: After following your proposed diet I've been feeling better after an O. My symptoms are reduced in intensity, but I get very tired. Some of the symptoms have disappeared, but still I cannot be 100% fit because I feel a massive fatigue. Anyways, the method has done me good and I think it will continue improving.


Friends, thanks a lot for your support. I will be posting new developments on my treatment, and if anything improves I will surely be posting it here.
Let's keep in touch, and if you got any questions, feel free to post'em here. I check this thread daily.

Best regards,

JP

[Egordon]

JP,

You're going super fast! And I don't mean that with regard to the # of weeks in between injections -- you're going up in dilutions about 3 times faster than I did. (And I get shots 2 or 3 times a week.) I'm sure your doctor's chosen this regimen because he feels your body can handle it, but you might feel a bit better if your steps were a bit smaller. Are you reacting abnormally  (either at the site of your injection or symptomatically) after your shots? This would indicate that your moving a bit too fast.

Also, did you ever try NSAIDs?

[Vandemolen]

JP, I think Erdogan gave you a good advice. Slow down. Go in smaller steps. When I had pain in my arm because of the injection for more then 2 weeks my doctor slowed down the dillution. And when you are feeling ok, you can take bigger steps in the dillution. So ask your doctor if he can slow down.

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[jotape_chile]

Hello everyone...

No further news on my treatment.
Next week I got session.

The only news is that the Kurtosis method ain't working anymore... so I am back with my usual symptoms after an O. Bad luck with this methods again, but still hoping that desenz works at the end.

Will keep you updated.

Regards,

JP

[jotape_chile]

Hi everyone again.

Today had another desenz session. My progression is as follows:

Desenzitization treatment evolution         
         
DATE         CONCENTRATION   EFFECT   
         
29-06-2011              Prick test +   
13-07-2011   1/40,000   No POIS   
27-07-2011   1/40,000   No POIS   
17-08-2011   1/20,000   No POIS   
07-09-2011   1/20,000   No POIS   
24-09-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
05-10-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
19-10-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
02-11-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
23-11-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
14-12-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
11-01-2012   1/5,000     POIS   
SUSPENDED         
11-06-2012   1/5,000      POIS   
25-06-2012   1/2,500      POIS   
03-07-2012   1/1,250      POIS   
23-07-2012   1/625         POIS   
23-08-2012   1/315         POIS   (Niacin)
03-09-2012   1/105         POIS   (Niacin)
01-10-2012   1/50           POIS   (Niacin)
14-11-2012   1/25           POIS - Massive fatigue   (Kurtosis)
12-12-1012   1/10           POIS


Again started feeling POIS symptoms after a couple of hours. Next session is on January 9th.
No further news.

Regards,

JP

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[Vandemolen]

JP, I talked with my doctor who does the desens. He said that it is normal that the injection causes POIS. He said that especially if you are going to fast with the dillution. So ask you doctor if he slows down.
When my arm was hurt because of the injection (for a few weeks) my doctor did the same dillution as the last time.

[rock27]

JP,

1.did you get any improvement from the desenz so far?
2. you say you get pois symptoms after about every shot. Are these smaller after each shot, staying constant, or increasing?

[jotape_chile]

Dear Vande:

My arm hurt a couple of times, but this last time did not. I had the POIS anyways. I'd rather go this rythm, so I can reach faster the 1/1 dilution for a while and then try out with less concentration. Have you tried that? Going on less dilution? Maybe ther you do not get the POIS.

Dear Rock27:

1. Until now I have not get any improvements at all. The only "positive" thing was that my body reacted to my own semen shots, causing me POIS.
2. Since the first time I got the POIS after a shot (see chart) I have felt the same POIS effect. Not better, not worse... just the same. I hope as time passes by this situation changes.


For the stats: this year I have had 61 POIS days, including matsurbation, O's, wet dreams and the desenz. I think it's just too much.
I am hoping to get a relief in a short term, cause this is really pissing me off.

Hope you are doing well.

JP

[rock27]

Dear JP,
thanks for sharing. I am not an expert, but out of common sense I would expect an improvement when you've gotten this low. Maybe ask your doctor how he determines next concentration? Again, common sense would say you've gone too fast, so really bring this facts you stated above to the attention of your allergist!

[Vandemolen]

Yes JP, I had pain in my arm twice. And both times the dillution was the same af before. So it didn't go up. Ask the doctor if he can do the same dillution as 1 appointment before.

It's a pity that desens doesn't help you much. I read the papers of prof. dr. Waldinger. There were two cases. One guy had 40 % less POIS and the other guy I think 90 % less. There was one big difference between this two men. The 40 % guy had wet dreams, the other didn't. And I am lucky I don't have wet dreams. I am not sure if there is a connection. But maybe... Hang on there! And good luck!

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[Andy451]

Ive been doing a desenz treatment for close close to 9 months now am @ 1-700 and hit a wall. I started at 1-80,000 and have seen some improvement with the injections, but nothing consistent. The last two injections actually increased symptoms which have slowly progressed after a weeks break from the treatment. Anyone experience similar reactions? My doctors and I are experimenting with the dose and possibly increasing the length of time between injections from one to two weeks.

Open to suggestions..

[jotape_chile]

Hi everyone. I'm back.

Finally I reached the 1/1 concentration, and as usual, had the after POIS.
My desenzitization treatment evolution has been as follows:       
         
DATE         CONCENTRATION   EFFECT   
         
29-06-2011              Prick test +   
13-07-2011   1/40,000   No POIS   
27-07-2011   1/40,000   No POIS   
17-08-2011   1/20,000   No POIS   
07-09-2011   1/20,000   No POIS   
24-09-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
05-10-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
19-10-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
02-11-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
23-11-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
14-12-2011   1/10,000   POIS   
11-01-2012   1/5,000     POIS   
SUSPENDED         
11-06-2012   1/5,000      POIS   
25-06-2012   1/2,500      POIS   
03-07-2012   1/1,250      POIS   
23-07-2012   1/625         POIS   
23-08-2012   1/315         POIS   
03-09-2012   1/105         POIS   
01-10-2012   1/50           POIS   
14-11-2012   1/25           POIS
12-12-2012   1/10           POIS
23-01-2013   1/1             POIS

According to my doctor, I will continue having the 1/1 injections once a month until this symptoms dissapear.
I am happy to have reached the direct sample into my arm. Seems to me as a milestone after a long time. Things should start to get better during this year I think.
If this does not happen, at least I would have tried...

Hope to hear some comments.
Best regards,

Juan Pablo from Chile.

JP

[LAPOISSE]

Hi JP,

But what you think  now? you started 18month ago...you should feel some improvment ? Do you think it works ?