Acidosis (low pH) and POIS

[BoneBroth]

It seems that many people here have symptoms that are a sign of acidosis, low pH. There are actually over 100 diseases that are a direct or indirect cause of deficiency of calcium/magnesium.

Some examples:

Candida --> couted tounge --> bad breath
Male pattern baldness (Low scalp pH activates 5α-reductase that transforms testosterone into DHT)
Musclecramps
Tinnitus
Bone loss (face, teeths, skelleton)
Low back pain
Spinal stenosis
Bad sleep
Kidney stones
Osteoporosis
Prolonged clotting time
Panic attacks, depression
Low body temperature
Frequent infections
Dry skin
Brittle nails
Hives
Fatigue
Headache

Stress lowers pH!

Stress (physical + emotional + mental + high blood sugar) and oxidation are huge factors to cause low pH. For example, cortisol is promoting a loss of minerals from the body and increasing the acid load which is also bad for your bones. 

So we have at least two separate illness cascades that works in synergy. Something like this:

1. Excess orgasm over time --> hormone overload --> impaired liver function --> bad hormone breakdown products --> oxidation --> inflammation --> POIS (and bad blood vessel condition)
2. Stress + lack of exercise --> hormone imbalances --> low pH --> acidosis --> male pattern baldness, coated tounge, candida, bone loss

Those lines are dependant on eachother to work! Only excess O will not cause POIS, but when you already have POIS you will be fine when you stop to have O/NE. Only stress will not cause POIS but when you have POIS and eliminate stress (meditation, holliday etc) and start exercising (yoga, running etc) you will see improvements.

This hypothesis will propose another supplement: calcium (with equal amounts of magnesium), and/or bicarbonate. I've been start taking a calcium supplement (2400 mg/day) with magnesium, vitamin d, zink, boron, colloidal minerals etc. I take also 1-2 glasses of water with half a teaspoon of bicarbonate and start having at least one green smoothie every day with half a lemon. I'm experiencing improvements in the over all health and sleep. Maybe it takes time for the pH to become normal after decades of POIS.

The supplements/diets are only quick fixes that chemically breaks those lines at diffrent stages, but as long as to dont fix the primary cause you are stuck with the supplements/diets.

Do the pH stick test in the morning!

Buy some pH sticks and check your urine and salive pH the first thing in the morning, some say it is best to do the test at 6 am but that would ruin my sleep... The saliva test should be done after you rinse your mouth with clean water and wait a minute for some new fresh saliva to form. Do the test 7 days in a row to get some good statistics, write down the result and report here!

There are diffrent opinions about what the morning pH should be in the saliva and urine (after a meal it raises quickly to over 7), but at least it should not be under 6 in the morning. I've had way under pH 6 for too long time.

https://www.getoffyouracid.com/blogs/ph-info/how-to-correctly-test-your-ph-levels
https://www.holisticprimarycare.net/topics/topics-o-z/prevention-practice-pearls/180-first-morning-urine-ph-a-window-on-acidalkaline-balance.html
https://www.betterbones.com/alkaline-balance/ph-testing/

[Hopeoneday]

It will be intresting to test for all tipes acidosis, repiratory too
(i think blod need to be tested).
last 10 years i did tryed helty diet, frut vegetables, water,
etc...tryed bicarbonate to, but nothing helped for my pois and health.
It will be intresting to by strips and test urine and saliva...

[Nas]

Well my pee is acidic does that relate to Acidosis? Also I don't have numbness in my hands and feet. The only thing that can be connected to Acidosis in me is my cognitive symptoms but as I see symptoms are actually more severe in Acidosis and are related to lose of consciousness than cognitive problems.
Plus dexamethasone is the only thing that ever worked for me, yet it supposedly increases acidity in the blood. I've also tried calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate for stomach acidity but obviously it didn't improve anything when it comes to POIS.

[BoneBroth]

As for carbonates. They are the same form of calcium that are found in egg shells and that form is said to be useless for us since they are only absorbed about 5%. I take a product with calcium citrate but there are many other good forms of calcium. Calcium should also be taken together with magnesium (in about equal amounts) and vitamin D. All those nutrients are beeing used together. To build strong skelleton it is also good to add boron and colloidal minerals.

[Quantum]

I think it will come as no surprise for anyone that a bad diet is creating more acidity in the body.  For example, refined sugars cause the body pH to lower, meaning it gets more acidic.   Junk food the same, and fried food as well.  On the other hand, green smoothies will make you body more alkaline / reduce acidity.   

I used to have a severe problem with body acidity, and had much stomach acidity problems too.  A major change in my diet as been a great game changer.

In addition, my many years of daily meditation practice, which have greatly reduced my stress and have centered me so that I am calm and happy instead of constantly anxious, is obviously another major factor in eliminating my body acidity problems. Learning to love yourself and to be at peace with others and the world makes wonder for the body health    You do not have to trust me, just try it for a few months and see for yourself.

Other factors have played as well, but I have already explained that in length in my POIS control method.

[Vandemolen]

I think it will come as no surprise for anyone that a bad diet is creating more acidity in the body.  For example, refined sugars cause the body pH to lower, meaning it gets more acidic.   Junk food the same, and fried food as well.  On the other hand, green smoothies will make you body more alkaline / reduce acidity.   

I used to have a severe problem with body acidity, and had much stomach acidity problems too.  A major change in my diet as been a great game changer.

In addition, my many years of daily meditation practice, which have greatly reduced my stress and have centered me so that I am calm and happy instead of constantly anxious, is obviously another major factor in eliminating my body acidity problems. Learning to love yourself and to be at peace with others and the world makes wonder for the body health    You do not have to trust me, just try it for a few months and see for yourself.

Other factors have played as well, but I have already explained that in length in my POIS control method.

[BoneBroth]

Other factors have played as well, but I have already explained that in length in my POIS control method.

You mean your supplement protocol? How much is just the green smoothies/meditation doing alone for the POIS do you think?

[Quantum]

Other factors have played as well, but I have already explained that in length in my POIS control method.

You mean your supplement protocol? How much is just the green smoothies/meditation doing alone for the POIS do you think?

Hi BoneBroth,

My supplement protocol, that I call my pre-pack, is part of my method, but not all of it.  You can check at http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2090.msg16604#msg16604  for the details about its main components.

In the last 3 and a half years, after I had developed my pre-pack, I did not made experiments to see how it would go if I would stop to take it and just go along with the other aspects of my method, including the healthy diet/green smoothies, and meditation.  My quality of life is 2000% better now, so it is normal that I do not feel like doing tests and taking the risk to suffer a severe POIS attack again like those I used to have, so I am very disciplined and take my pre-pack every time.  If things happen spontaneously and I did not have time to take it, or in case of a NE, I take my pack just after, as soon as possible, and I am still mostly covered, but it is more effective if taken before.

However, from the 35 years that I had to live with POIS before I have created my pre-pack, it is clear for me that the better is my health, the better is my energy level, and the calmer and happier I am, and the less POIS symptoms I have.  During those years of POIS without pre-pack, I had enough time to know that if I was more stressed, or more tired, or had digestive issues, or anxiety, POIS was more severe.     

I can add that my healthy diet, which include my green smoothies, but also, the complete avoidance of refined sugars, preservatives, artificial color s and flavors, etc,  have greatly increased my quality of life in general.  So, it is not just helping for POIS, but for overall energy, for clarity of mind, for emotional stability, for performance in sports, for general feeling of well being, for liver function support, and so on. Before, I was plagued with a multitude of symptoms of all kind every day, both physicla and emotional, and was rarely feeling just fine. Now I feel fine almost all the time, and if not, I clearly know why and it won't last for long.

POIS was not my one and only problem, so I developed a method for overall health, including physical, emotional and mental well being.  I continue to do all that is working good for me, and my experience is that everything in life is connected, so what helps an aspect also has a positive outcome on the other aspects as well.  So, I cannot put a precise percentage figure on the effect of meditation and healthy diet on my POIS, but I can tell you that they are essential in my life as a whole, including for the control of my POIS symptoms.

[Quantum]

I think it will come as no surprise for anyone that a bad diet is creating more acidity in the body.  For example, refined sugars cause the body pH to lower, meaning it gets more acidic.   Junk food the same, and fried food as well.  On the other hand, green smoothies will make you body more alkaline / reduce acidity.   

I used to have a severe problem with body acidity, and had much stomach acidity problems too.  A major change in my diet as been a great game changer.

In addition, my many years of daily meditation practice, which have greatly reduced my stress and have centered me so that I am calm and happy instead of constantly anxious, is obviously another major factor in eliminating my body acidity problems. Learning to love yourself and to be at peace with others and the world makes wonder for the body health    You do not have to trust me, just try it for a few months and see for yourself.

Other factors have played as well, but I have already explained that in length in my POIS control method.

Well, Vandemolen, this poor guy will not help his acidosis, for now

[demografx]

Well, Vandemolen, this poor guy will not help his acidosis, for now

[Hopeoneday]

Other factors have played as well, but I have already explained that in length in my POIS control method.

You mean your supplement protocol? How much is just the green smoothies/meditation doing alone for the POIS do you think?

Hi BoneBroth,

My supplement protocol, that I call my pre-pack, is part of my method, but not all of it.  You can check at http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2090.msg16604#msg16604  for the details about its main components.

In the last 3 and a half years, after I had developed my pre-pack, I did not made experiments to see how it would go if I would stop to take it and just go along with the other aspects of my method, including the healthy diet/green smoothies, and meditation.  My quality of life is 2000% better now, so it is normal that I do not feel like doing tests and taking the risk to suffer a severe POIS attack again like those I used to have, so I am very disciplined and take my pre-pack every time.  If things happen spontaneously and I did not have time to take it, or in case of a NE, I take my pack just after, as soon as possible, and I am still mostly covered, but it is more effective if taken before.

However, from the 35 years that I had to live with POIS before I have created my pre-pack, it is clear for me that the better is my health, the better is my energy level, and the calmer and happier I am, and the less POIS symptoms I have.  During those years of POIS without pre-pack, I had enough time to know that if I was more stressed, or more tired, or had digestive issues, or anxiety, POIS was more severe.     

I can add that my healthy diet, which include my green smoothies, but also, the complete avoidance of refined sugars, preservatives, artificial color s and flavors, etc,  have greatly increased my quality of life in general.  So, it is not just helping for POIS, but for overall energy, for clarity of mind, for emotional stability, for performance in sports, for general feeling of well being, for liver function support, and so on. Before, I was plagued with a multitude of symptoms of all kind every day, both physicla and emotional, and was rarely feeling just fine. Now I feel fine almost all the time, and if not, I clearly know why and it won't last for long.

POIS was not my one and only problem, so I developed a method for overall health, including physical, emotional and mental well being.  I continue to do all that is working good for me, and my experience is that everything in life is connected, so what helps an aspect also has a positive outcome on the other aspects as well.  So, I cannot put a precise percentage figure on the effect of meditation and healthy diet on my POIS, but I can tell you that they are essential in my life as a whole, including for the control of my POIS symptoms.

Hi Quantum, when i read this tread it looks like we poisers do not know
how to "live our lifes" , an that we do not know enything about sexuality,
dont know enithing about diet, dont know enithing aboutour pshy and sol.

Then all this pois is pshychilogicly an all this problems we imagine and
it is pshychosomaticly.
(I think that this isnt a case)

Supresing sexuality (eyaculation) in two a moonth for young helthy man
isnt life at all (that is the reason that all girls i meet and did try
explein them that we mybe hawe sex one or two on moonth awerage,
100% of them didnt hawe ability to acept that)
For a woman(yang espesualy), it is crucial that man be sexualy helty
fertile and potent.

If you ask me pois is linked to autoimunity yust from diferent angles,
because we are not all the same.
As you se here some poisers get sick only after eyaculation,
in apstinece , they are fine , but some of them newer get out
of some pois state ewan in apstinece and eyclation hit them like a train.

So pois for me is underlying cindition wich not working like it sholld be
all the time, 24/7 in us.

Some of us luckes hawe lighter symptomes some wery hard.

Dont take me wrong here, helty diet an life stayle benefit all people,
but i know people who eat sendwiches all days an they are fine,
full of energy, perfectly helty.

My father is 70 year old , he newer eats fruis, almoust newer.
He eats half kg a hard factory cookies a day with all odher
"unhelty" foods , he smokes hard tobaco without filter from his
10 year old, read 60 years of tobaco smoke,
and he is perfectly helty(he is sport active in his 70tes).

My modher, all life "helty diet" , all life sick from autoimune conditions.
She took like 40 diferent tipes off pils for autoimune conditions.

[Quantum]

Hi Quantum, when i read this tread it looks like we poisers do not know
how to "live our lifes" , an that we do not know enything about sexuality,
dont know enithing about diet, dont know enithing aboutour pshy and sol.

Hi HOD,

Not everybody is born with an equal level of health.   From my point of view, those who suffer POIS have a specific vulnerability, and have to live with it, and take all this special caution about health, to live up to that challenge.  We do not have the same exact metabolic flaws, I guess, hence different POIS types.  But we all share the fact that we do not have a perfect "sexual health", and rather have a poor resistance to sexual activity.

Life is everything but fair.  For that matter, it is not only about health and sexual heath, but also about beauty, intelligence, genetic, quality of parenthood, quality of the social environment where you are born (poor and stuck vs rich and free), to name some of the main "parameters".  It is true that some people will eat industrial food, smoke cigarettes all their life, drink a lot of alcohol, and have many other bad habits, and will go through life without much health problems.   That is not my case, and not the case of every member of this forum.  But hey, there are worst situations than having POIS.  We have the challenge we have, and it is not because we do not know how to live, it is just we have a greater challenge, health wise, than average people.