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Michael218

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Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« on: April 02, 2019, 04:42:02 PM »
Hi there,

These specialists aren't cheap. I was hoping POIS experts could suggest which specialist is more suitable to look into POIS?

And with blood tests, what would you be searching for? Doctors don't test everything in blood tests, they tick off specfic things they want results for e.g. "testosterone". What indicators/deficiencies/abnormalities would you be looking for?

Thanks kindly

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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2019, 05:08:14 PM »
I do not know which specialist to see. I went to a neurlogist. He could not help me. You can check all the gathered blood results here and look for abnormalities. There are a few men with low testosterone, but there are also a few men with normal testosterone. The same for vitamin D. Just look at that topic. And if you think it is better to check a few hormones, then maybe you should consider an endocrinologist. But is up to you. Good luck.

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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2019, 06:22:58 PM »
Michael218, there are no “POIS experts”.
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2019, 06:28:25 PM »
There are certainly members here who have spent countless hours investigating it, hypothesizing, aware of various possible causes... compared to the average person, I'd call them an expert.

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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2019, 06:41:27 PM »
Michael, you’re absolutely right when you say it that way :) I was thinking of someone like a doctor with a sign outside his door, “POIS EXPERT” ;D


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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2019, 06:32:56 AM »
This Forum is the best place to study POIS. Doctors do not have time to study. They have many appoitments.
My POIS only happens with masturbation. Normal sex does not generate POIS symptoms. My POIS is related to me mood and the health of my cervical spine. Dopamine/Inflammation/Body constitution (genetics) are factors that contribute to POIS.

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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2019, 10:57:40 AM »
Fernando, I agree! :)
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2019, 07:50:08 PM »
Michael, endocrinologic factors are the key players in all ejaculatory disorders - premature ejaculation = hyperthyroidism, delayed ejaculation (incl. refractory period) = hypothyroidism.  POIS more looks like delayed ejaculation to my blind eye, but keep in mind hypo and hyper are not distinct and patients criss-cross between the two.  Endocrinological factors, i.e. Thyroid affects every cell in our bodies, CNS, PNS, brain cells, body cells.

You can go to a Gynaecologist or Neurologist but they will only address a few out of many many symptoms.  The key is ENDOCRINOLOGIST.  Use this forum as talking points, but if you have access, you must go to some brave Endocrinologist (that doesn't believe every word taught by the medical power groups, and she/he will test you for Cortisol, T3, Total T3, Free T3, same thing with T4, Reverse T3, TSH, antibodies, etc).  Michael218, your experience would be very helpful to us all here on this forum.   A brave Endocrinologist will recognize the picture on the ground proven by research (better yet take a printout of that research) that says that thyroid hormones fluctuate drastically throughout the day so many patient are not getting diagnosis simply because of the time of the day their testing happened (as the current established ranges are political and not based on material evidence).  Heck the blatant injustice to the sufferers is that 90% patients are not getting diagnosed simply because current medical guidelines given to doctors (and reimbursed by insurance) are only for TSH and T4 which are pathetically insufficient, leaving a vast majority untreated, and leaving them to various many disorders (un-necessary) of today, creating this big bloated messy medical system.  I know guys my writing is tarty, but it is necessary for us to be rationally circumspect so we can recognize that every profession has this power/political system, and its not incidental that our medical system is so bloated and messy.
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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2019, 08:24:36 PM »
The key is ENDOCRINOLOGIST.  Use this forum as talking points, but if you have access, you must go to some brave Endocrinologist (that doesn't believe every word taught by the medical power groups, and she/he will test you for Cortisol, T3, Total T3, Free T3, same thing with T4, Reverse T3, TSH, antibodies, etc).  Michael218, your experience would be very helpful to us all here on this forum.   A brave Endocrinologist...
Exactly what I did. And very happy that I did. I was also advised that a UNIVERSITY-connected endocrinologist might be the “bravest”, since they are more “research-oriented”, and not as much “a believer in every word taught by the medical power groups”.

Well said, swell!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Neurologist or Endocrinologist?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2019, 05:25:55 AM »
Swell, I'm based in Sydney, Australia.
I'm open to seeing anyone so if you feel confident to research online an endocrinologist who may be suitable, I will happily make the appointment. Otherwise, I will just do my best to find one.
A lot of the heavy-on-science responses in this forum go over my head and I am out of my depth here, so I usually just skip the jargon and search for member solutions.

If you feel there is an ideal way to introduce the condition to the specialist, feel free to write a few of the most important things down - this is likely a condition he will not know much if anything about, and time is never on your side at the rates they charge, so if there is a way to introduce the condition to him to guide him in his approach to treating us, I am open to that... Obviously we may have slightly different symptoms and circumstances, so it's tricky. I saw a GP yesterday and I asked him to organise a blood test for testosterone and all hormones, cortisol, thyroid, vitamin d, b12, methylation, homocysteine, etc... I planned to bring these results to an endocrinologist or neurologist in order to save time.

If you have any other suggestions as to how to approach this, I'm open... 🙏