Author Topic: Cured except for the Zyrtec (Read 13702 times)

Michael218 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2018, 09:57:09 PM »

This is interesting as you take these after your o's, not before. I will need to give zyrtec and benedryl a try next time I have a NE... although you mention to take it 1-2 months before... who knows...

Let us know when you go off the zyrtec and see what happens!

demografx · « **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2018, 10:39:41 PM »

I use Benadryl. Careful, there are memory problems reported. I should stop. I use it to sleep. I was given Benadryl after major surgery and unfortunately it developed into a (bad) habit.

Nas · « **Reply #22 on:** February 27, 2018, 09:46:59 AM »

Quote from: demografx on February 26, 2018, 10:39:41 PM

I use Benadryl. Careful, there are memory problems reported. I should stop. I use it to sleep. I was given Benadryl after major surgery and unfortunately it developed into a (bad) habit.

Well he didn't say everyday; only on orgasm days so I don't think it would be that much of a problem.

Also Happy you didn't mention your dose ? You take 5mg or 10mg daily?

demografx · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2018, 10:42:16 AM »

You’re right, I use it almost daily.

Hopeoneday · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2018, 01:23:23 PM »

As i am reasarhing acetaycholine wright now, is it posible that benadrayl help because Happy hawe HI acetaycholine lewels???

happy2 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 13, 2018, 07:11:20 AM »

Quote from: Muon on February 20, 2018, 06:56:08 PM

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I took for two months, then had first O being on the Zyrtec...
For a better understanding, while taking Zyrtec did you abstain from O's during those 2 months?

Yes, Muon,
No O's during those two months.

happy2 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 13, 2018, 07:12:58 AM »

Quote from: Nas on February 27, 2018, 09:46:59 AM

Quote from: demografx on February 26, 2018, 10:39:41 PM
I use Benadryl. Careful, there are memory problems reported. I should stop. I use it to sleep. I was given Benadryl after major surgery and unfortunately it developed into a (bad) habit.

Well he didn't say everyday; only on orgasm days so I don't think it would be that much of a problem.

Also Happy you didn't mention your dose ? You take 5mg or 10mg daily?

Nas,
It's 10 mgs. Zyrtec daily, at night.

Foggedup · « **Reply #27 on:** October 19, 2018, 01:13:48 PM »

I am also having very good results with zyrtec and benadryl (emesan - in my case)
I had used cetrizin before affecting me in no way. With the help of Zyrtec instead i almost had like 90% less symptoms - this is phenomenal! I tried a lot of things and having almost not symptoms is unbelievable. I had multiple Os in one night an had like 6 Os in a week.

dizzy · « **Reply #28 on:** October 19, 2018, 02:01:27 PM »

Quote from: Foggedup on October 19, 2018, 01:13:48 PM

I am also having very good results with zyrtec and benadryl (emesan - in my case)

That's great news. Does this mean you are taking both at the same time?

Scrub · « **Reply #29 on:** October 19, 2018, 03:19:37 PM »

Very interesting. It helps to build up the MCAS theory.

Foggedup · « **Reply #30 on:** October 20, 2018, 02:08:29 AM »

I have 10 mg Zyrtecs, break them in 2 pieces and take one half in the morning and one piece in the evening every day - I am sure it makes no difference to take it in one piece but I started it that way and I dont want to experiment with it since it helps the way I do it so...
Directly after Oing I take 25mg Emesan (Diphenhydraminhydrochlorid). I take it only after O.

I forgot one thing. Maybe it isnt part of the conclusion - maybe it is. I have experimented with nutrition a lot the last two years. I noticed I have a sesitivity to nightshade plants. So I dont eat potatoes, tomatoes, chili and eggplants. Those gave me the same symptoms as POIS (brainfog, runny nose etc lasting 2-3 days).

I have Pois since roundanout 2012 and the only thing that helped was being abstinent for as long as possible. I tried alot of things. I made alot of food experiments, took vitamins, amino acids, sport, pre-packs -nothing really helped - most things made it worse rather than improve anything...

Right now I am on a totally normal diet. I can eat a lot of sugars, I can drink alcohol, I dont need to eat whole foods etc. - I just avoid nightshade and take those medications. I take those for two weeks now - so I cannot say if it helps over a longer period. But what I can say is that nothing else helped me to such a degree.
Day one after an O i have (if at all) like 10% of the symptoms of what I used to have. On day 2 I have no symptoms at all - and day two was always the worst...

dizzy · « **Reply #31 on:** October 20, 2018, 07:40:33 AM »

@Foggedup Thanks for the detailed explanation.

How did you find this combination of drugs? Did one of them give you some relief already, after which you tried adding another drug?

I'm wondering what would be the best approach for the rest of us: try one drug, see how it goes, and then proceed with the next drug; or try the entire protocol at once.

Foggedup · « **Reply #32 on:** October 21, 2018, 01:37:47 PM »

Hi Dizzy,

I didnt came up with the combination. I just did what happy2 did. Benadryl isnt available in my country so I took a generica of that. I tried a generica of zyrtec too a year ago and that didnt work. Someone said it has to be zyrtec so at least I wanted to give it a try now and it worked immediately.
So i just take 10 mg zyrtec everyday and after every O a benadryl generica.

Vandemolen · « **Reply #33 on:** October 21, 2018, 02:38:53 PM »

Maybe you find relief from Benadryl, because it causes sleepiness. After an O. i can’t sleep. So maybe it’s not the antihistamine that does the work. I already tried mucher stronger antihistamines like Xyzal (Levocitirizine) and Fexofenadine. And it didn’t work. No relief at all.

Hopeoneday · « **Reply #34 on:** October 21, 2018, 03:24:20 PM »

Hi Foogedup, thanks for report and glad tha this helped you.

So you saying that only taking zyrtec withouth benadrayl give yoi 90%
relefe? And you do combo now like happy.

You say that firs time you tested you ddint use org zayrtec citrizine but
some replacemant generic citrizine and didnt work?

Me personaly did tested it in letizen form and it didnt work for me.

demografx · « **Reply #35 on:** October 21, 2018, 03:32:57 PM »

Quote from: Vandemolen on October 21, 2018, 02:38:53 PM

Maybe you find relief from Benadryl, because it causes sleepiness. After an O. i can’t sleep. So maybe it’s not the antihistamine that does the work. I already tried mucher stronger antihistamines like Xyzal (Levocitirizine) and Fexofenadine. And it didn’t work. No relief at all.

From Harvard Medical School. I’m a Benadryl user, and concerned. I’ve heard these medical concerns from others as well, especially regarding memory loss.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/common-anticholinergic-drugs-like-benadryl-linked-increased-dementia-risk-201501287667

Hopeoneday · « **Reply #36 on:** October 21, 2018, 04:07:03 PM »

Yeah, tat,s the quest , is it firs he was helped by zayrtec or anticholingercic
efect of benadryl?

Foggedup · « **Reply #37 on:** October 22, 2018, 11:42:50 AM »

I have no answers why this combination helped. Some years ago I tried Cetrizin. It didnt do anything. Sometime later I think I read a similar thread like this one - maybe it was also started by happy2 - I dont remember. There I read about the combination of cetrizin and benadryl. I tried that but beside that the benadryl made me sleep well this combo didnt improve my symptoms.
But in that thread they said it has to be zyrtec and no generica. But I didnt try it back then, because zyrtec was more expansive (at least in germany) and I already had spent so many money for all that supplements that I had tried. But in the back of my mind there was always this you have to try zyrtec.

In the meantime I used benadryl on day 2 or day 3 after an O because in those days I always had major sleep problems. But it didnt change the symptoms of POIS the next day.

Anytime later I read this thread and there was said there was even no need of taking benadryl and it was claimed to have a 100% relieve of pois.

I was skeptical and ordered a 20 pill package of zyrtec and bought Emesan (the benadryl generica). The plan was to use zyrtec for some days and than have an O and then pop Benadryl afterwards. But I had a IDGAF moment, I took half a zyrtec, had an O and took the Benadryl afterwards. So the first time I took zyrtec was just 30 minutes before an O.
Next morning I felt good but I was still skeptical. The usual symptoms didnt kick in that morning and for the rest of the day. Since then I took 5mg Zyrtec every morning and evening.
In the last 2 years I had long phases of abstinence. But usually I didnt have more than one O in a month. Often times I had 2 month breaks or even 3 month breaks. I could take any pre pack or supplement - nothing helped.
This time I had a 2 day break. I tried thre combo again and I had no symptoms that evening or the next day. So the next day i tried it again. I had 2 Os that night. I think I popped 2 benadryl and I had no Pois symptoms next morning - maybe very light ones. Before that I would have been in a zombie state of mind for days...

The only thing that changed from my first experiment with cetrizin and benadryl was that I used zyrtec this time and the second thing is I didnt eat any nightshade foods for weeks - I dont know if that is relevant. You have to find out for yourself.

If you want to try the same: take zyrtec everyday, take a benadryl directly after O-ing - maybe dont eat any nightshade foods for some days.

Hopeoneday · « **Reply #38 on:** October 22, 2018, 01:47:41 PM »

Thanks, thats all i wana know, i will test it again.

In my country hard to to find org zyrtec ...
I will order onliine and test again.

This condition is probbly conected to autoimune disorders, so
lectin(NIGHT SHADES) and odher... diets avoidence can help,
but one diet it want help to all.

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Author Topic: Cured except for the Zyrtec (Read 13702 times)