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happy2

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Cured except for the Zyrtec
« on: January 24, 2018, 03:27:17 PM »
I don’t have to use Benadryl anymore after Osms.  13 Osms in the last 5 days with no symptoms.  I still am on the 10 mg Zyrtec every day.  Haven’t worked up the courage yet to try to omit it though. 
If you want to know what my treatment regimen has been just look up happy2-my username.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2018, 06:49:31 PM by happy2 »

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2018, 05:10:15 PM »
So why do you need the Zyrtec if you are cured? What am I missing here?

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2018, 05:58:04 PM »
knocked the benadryl out, not sure if symptoms will not show up again if i quit the zyrtec too, haven't tried yet.

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2018, 06:04:14 PM »
And what do you mean with 'through desensitization' ?

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2018, 06:04:53 PM »
i've been taking the zyrtec every day, like i said in my other posts, the benadryl just as needed two pills after each o.  the two pills, you see worked on different zymptoms and also worked in conjunction with one another.  I omitted the two benadryls after each o and continued to take the 10 mg of zyrtec every day.  Probably built up in my system or something.  You gotta understand though, the two benadryls were absolutely vital to knocking the majority of symptoms out.  The zyrtec just took out the brain fog and fatigue.

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2018, 06:11:26 PM »
You didn't answer my question.

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2018, 06:12:44 PM »
Muon,
through desensitization i mean by taking the benadryls through the time period i did, two years and an average of one o per day, it made the reaction within less potent.  if the histamine reaction is stopped below the belt immediately following o, then the neurological symptoms do not appear.  When i first found this combo the benadryl/zyrtec, I couldn't take just one pill of benadryl without immediately feeling the old brain fog roll in within 20-30 sec.  I needed both pills of benadryl to stop the onslaught of crazy symptoms.  nOw, and for the last 5 days I do not need to take any benadryl.  So, obviously the body has gotten used to the reaction not taking over my entire system.  The benadryl was used to stop the histamine reaction and after these last two years that is exactly what it has done.  NOw, for the first time, I have absolutely no symptoms. 

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2018, 06:21:34 PM »
Ok kinda wrong title then, I thought you were cured through a desensitization treatment (what you probably meant to say is that your body is less sensitive or symptom free by long term usage of Benadryl, that is something different than desensitization). You also don't know if you are cured unless you stop taking Zyrtec (the question here is do you need Zyrtec yes or no?).

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2018, 06:25:42 PM »
That's right.  I will quit the zyrtec and get back with everyone in the next week or two to let everyone know if all the symptoms still do not appear.

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2018, 06:51:24 PM »
Sorry, I should have been more technical.  I'm trying to change the title so as not to confuse anybody else.

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec - through desensitization.
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2018, 06:52:15 PM »
Or the following scenario could happen because of the long term usage: A small portion of the dose of the previous day is still in your blood when you start taking the next dose. With other words you are building up Diphenhydramine in your body. Do this for two years and your body is a pool of Diphenhydramine. I don't know if that is possible regarding the amount your are taking, the 2 years and the half-life.

Or something happened to the body the moment you stopped taking it.

I would stay on the Zyrtec if I were you and wait a bit longer, a few weeks. Perhaps you still have some of it in your system. If you are still symptom free after that period then stop taking Zyrtec and observe any effects. Just keep taking Zyrtec and wait a bit longer before quitting with that as well.

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 06:54:25 PM »
Thanks for the advise, will do.

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2018, 05:03:05 AM »
I would not quit the Zyrtec just to prove something unlikely.  If zyrtec helps you, than stay on it.  As said, the benadryl is probably still in your system as well.  Taking benadryl and Zyrtec is not going to "cure" anybody, it just masks the symptoms IMO. 

I have a feeling if you quit the Zyrtec you will feel the POIS lvl 9 boss come out to play.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 05:05:59 AM by Going less Crazy »
My POIS managed with Diet (@ diet that 100% manages my pois)Believe my POIS stems from inflammation in the gut. O = neuro POIS from inflammation from the gut

supps: microdose zyrtec if needed for food sens. ibuprofen for infl. as needed. Melatonin as needed. Big Pinch Black cumin  seeds once daily

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2018, 10:30:18 AM »
Hi Happy2,

Can you describe your symptoms before you start the treatment?

And also how frequently you were having orgasms while on the treatment?

Are there side effects from taking Benadryl with Zyrtec?

Wish you a sustainable success!

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2018, 10:49:04 AM »
Hi happy thansk for report and grat..on yours cure.
About 2 benydrayls imidiatly after O. Did you take them allways on empty stomach or deesnt mater? I tought , if my stomach is full how much time is need for apsorb, is it to late?
Dr-pois.

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2018, 07:37:18 AM »
Hopeoneday,
I just tried to always drink one glass of water with the two benadryls immediately following O.  The absorbtion happens within seconds of ingesting the pills.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 07:40:20 AM by happy2 »

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2018, 08:00:39 AM »
Hi Happy2,

Can you describe your symptoms before you start the treatment?

And also how frequently you were having orgasms while on the treatment?

Are there side effects from taking Benadryl with Zyrtec?

Wish you a sustainable success!

Yea Jimmy,
My symptoms treatment were extreme irritability, brain fog, couldn't sit down for the 4-5 days of the pois cycle, couldn't talk to people, or find the right words.  Also extreme fatigue on days 5 and 6 following the cycle.

I would stack 3-4 orgasms in a single night, then go three to four more nights before having the next set of 3-4 orgsms.  Taking Benadryl (2pills) after each O.  My doctor said no problem with this method, and it would not cause memory problems unless used every night, like some people do for sleep problems.  So, it basically averaged out to one orgasm per day for 2 straight years.

The side effects from the Benadryl are just you might feel kind of out of it for the next day.  The effects wear off after 22 hours and sleep.  Zyrtec I experience no side effects.

Thanks for the successful wishes, I'm sure it will be.  Even if I have to stay on the Zyrtec.  According to mental health daily, the Benadryl is completely out of ones system between 13.2 hours to 2.1 days.  Being that I only used the Benadryl once every 3-4 days, I'm sure it's been completely eliminated from my system.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 08:11:38 AM by happy2 »

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2018, 03:55:51 PM »
*sigh* if only zertic and bendryl would work for me. That would make my life much simpler. I wonder did you get instant relief after trying these two for the first time or did they have to accumulate ?

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2018, 05:24:24 PM »
Zyrtec accumulated two months before first O, that's when I found out it worked.  But, I had already been seeking and getting relief from Claritin and the two Benadryl combo for over three years at that point.  That's when I went to the urologist (after the 3 years on Claritin) and he then told me to get on Zyrtec, since it was more powerful of an anti-histamine than Claritin.  I took for two months, then had first O being on the Zyrtec, and that's when it cleared up my symptoms 100%.  Two years later, now, and for the previous 4 weeks I've been able to stop the Benadryl for the first time in 5 1/2 years.  I only take Zyrtec now.  I don't give medical advice, that's what doctors do.  But, because of my previous experience and lack of a total cure being found yet for the treatment of everyone, I would say, take Zyrtec for at least two months, and I repeat do it for the full two months, and then try the two Benadryl immediately following your O.  Take it within 20-30 seconds following O for it to work completely.  The Claritin the first time (5 1/2 years ago) worked wonders after only a 30-day trial combination with the 2 Benadryl following O.  Maybe take the Zyrtec for 1 month, stick it out, then O and try the Benadryl.  Good Luck!
« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 05:27:06 PM by happy2 »

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Re: Cured except for the Zyrtec
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2018, 06:56:08 PM »
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I took for two months, then had first O being on the Zyrtec...
For a better understanding, while taking Zyrtec did you abstain from O's during those 2 months?