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gatorkea

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Some symptoms prevail after abstinence
« on: June 17, 2016, 03:23:20 PM »
Hey guys, I am new to the forum. I am certain I have POIS based on what I have read here and other websites. The longest I have gone without ejaculation is about 30 days. I have been practicing abstinence for over a year now and for the first several months of practicing I would feel great when I went about 3 or more days without doing it. Well that has really changed now. A lot of symptoms do go away now but I also have a few problems, brain fog might not completely go away, and I can just be irritable(probably the dopamine) and probably more I just can't think of right now. So do any of you guys still feel pretty crappy even when abstaining from ejaculations?

Long term, I have greatly improved mental symptoms such as ADHD(which I have had all my life) , muscle/joint pain , cramps, energy.

Also, I have been doing 'Nutritional Balancing' with hair analysis. It seems to work for my general health but I need to stay with the program better.

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Re: Some symptoms prevail after abstinence
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2016, 03:51:15 PM »
Hey guys, I am new to the forum. I am certain I have POIS based on what I have read here and other websites. The longest I have gone without ejaculation is about 30 days. I have been practicing abstinence for over a year now and for the first several months of practicing I would feel great when I went about 3 or more days without doing it. Well that has really changed now. A lot of symptoms do go away now but I also have a few problems, brain fog might not completely go away, and I can just be irritable(probably the dopamine) and probably more I just can't think of right now. So do any of you guys still feel pretty crappy even when abstaining from ejaculations?

Long term, I have greatly improved mental symptoms such as ADHD(which I have had all my life) , muscle/joint pain , cramps, energy.

Also, I have been doing 'Nutritional Balancing' with hair analysis. It seems to work for my general health but I need to stay with the program better.

Welcome,  you definately not alone i and some others have constant brain fog even after abstaining a long time.

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Re: Some symptoms prevail after abstinence
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2016, 04:14:28 PM »
thanks for the reply, I also wonder how many of you guys believe that POIS might be the cause of low minerals or something of that nature instead of 'Semen allergy'.
Also I seem to get a lot of kidney symptoms after ejaculation. Difficulty breathing after eating protein is one of them.....

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Re: Some symptoms prevail after abstinence
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2016, 04:31:44 PM »
POIS cause?

I'm still clueless after nearly 10 years @ forums!!!!
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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Re: Some symptoms prevail after abstinence
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2016, 09:24:09 AM »
I can totally identify with the symptoms prevailing after abstinence.

For me:
- Fibromyalgia-like muscle pain
- Brain fog
- Headache
- Depression
- Anxiety
- Insomnia
- Poor memory (long and short term!)
- Poor hand-eye coordination
- Artificially messy writing (technical term for that is?)

Terrible. Then you O and it gets 10 times worse!

Amazingly, I still manage to go to work full-time in a toxic work environment with bullies.
Its sad to see my brain slowly go to mush, and I really notice it at work. I'm a chemist and I forget the most basic of concepts it's really embarrasing!

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Re: Some symptoms prevail after abstinence
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2016, 10:51:46 AM »
For me, I stick to Dr Waldinger's definition of POIS, with is 5 criteria, the fifth being that symptoms disappears spontaneously after 3 to 7 days, usually.

For me it is clear that when there are persistent symptoms, there is something other than POIS that has to be diagnosed.  This chronic something may be related in nature to POIS, and made worst by O, and could be fibromyalgia, ME/CFS, or similar, or depression, or something neurological.  After a few weeks without O, if symptoms remain, that does not fit anymore with POIS definition, and this does not rule out that POIS will be present anyway after O, with its own symptoms and by worsening the symptoms of this other, chronic condition.

In my case, I have suffered from chronic anxiety.  Yes, it gets many times worst when in POIS.  But after a few days, it is just my plain, chronic anxiety that is left, not POIS. 

Also, a step further, I remember having read posts on this forum from previous member Cornelius, I think, who said he never had POIS, he had an undiagnosed ADD or depression, or something like that, and when treated ( in 2011) for it, he had no more POIS symptoms ( as said in his 2013 post...not very active since).
You are 100% responsible for what you do with anything I post on this forum and of any consequence it could have for you.  Forum rule: ""Do not use POISCenter as a substitute for, or to give, medical advice" Read the remaining part at http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1.msg10259#msg10259

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Re: Some symptoms prevail after abstinence
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2016, 07:45:56 PM »
For me, I stick to...[a] definition of POIS...[in which]  symptoms disappear spontaneously after 3 to 7 days, usually.
I agree, Quantum,

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demo


« Last Edit: June 21, 2016, 10:54:22 PM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business