testosterone levels and abstinence

[phenethylamine]

I was recently reading about how abstinence can effect one's testosterone levels.  According to a couple of studies, testosterone levels in men tend to spike after 7 days of refraining from ejaculation. Now, if someone already has low testosterone levels, perhaps abstaining from ejaculation for 7 days elevates their testosterone levels enough to bring them back to normal.  That may explain why many people have POIS periods lasting for roughly a week.


Here is a study on testosterone levels and abstinence
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241?dopt=Abstract

[phenethylamine]

I also must add, that hot flashes are a symptom of a sharp decrease in testosterone levels.  I personally have experienced feelings of excessive warmth that could be hot flashes after orgasm.  I have also seen quite a few other people complaining about having hot flashes after orgasm. Now, once a person ejaculates after 7 days, their testosterone levels may sharply drop back to their original low levels, causing the symptoms of POIS.

[sameer7777]

Good share thanks

[demografx]

Interesting. TRT has cured my POIS 80-90%

Wonder if there is a relation to vagus nerve?...

[Jmari]

What does testosterone have to do with the Vagus?

[b_jim]

that hot flashes are a symptom of a sharp decrease in testosterone levels

I like this point.
 

Wonder if there is a relation to vagus nerve?...

If you ask this question, I guess two things : you must have hopeful elements about vagus nerve study but they can't make the link with hormones therapy.  

Ejaculation might create a fluctuation of testosterone, causing itself a fluctuation of dopamine regulating the vagus nerve.

[Samir]

I'm sure there is some connection between testosterone and pois, at least for me.  And I have a tendency to believe it may apply to all of us since our recovery time is in sync with testosterone productions post-O.

Thoughts?

[demografx]

What does testosterone have to do with the Vagus?

Clueless.

That's why I asked.

[phenethylamine]

What does testosterone have to do with the Vagus?

Clueless.

That's why I asked.

I believe that the Vagus nerve serves as a communication route between ones reproductive organs and the brain.  When you ejaculate, your brain needs to somehow know so it can begin the post orgasmic refractory period. For example, prolactin, is secreted after orgasm by the pituitary gland.  The pituitary gland receives a signal from the hypothalamus to secrete prolactin. Somehow, a signal needs to be relayed to the hypothalamus from the reproductive organs.  My guess is that the signal travels through the Vagus nerve.  So, if the brain is receiving a faulty signal from the vagus nerve, a whole lot of issues may arise.  Perhaps prolactin may be released in excess.  If prolactin is too high, testosterone levels will drop.

[Vandemolen]

I was recently reading about how abstinence can effect one's testosterone levels.  According to a couple of studies, testosterone levels in men tend to spike after 7 days of refraining from ejaculation. Now, if someone already has low testosterone levels, perhaps abstaining from ejaculation for 7 days elevates their testosterone levels enough to bring them back to normal.  That may explain why many people have POIS periods lasting for roughly a week.


Here is a study on testosterone levels and abstinence
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241?dopt=Abstract

That’s maybe the reason why most of us can’t have 2 O.’s in 1 week. The messed up immune system can take 1 hit in 7 days. But not 2. A lot of us, even the ones who find relief from vitamins or something else, can’t have sex twice a week without heavy symptoms.

[JohnJames]

I think raising testosterone can help some with some symptoms, but isn't a cure for me. There are other things that can help raise testosterone that don't have much effect on POIS and can actually make it worse for some (intense exercise, a good nights sleep, both make POIS worse, being sleep deprived actually helps symptoms for me which reduces test levels).

If low testosterone is what causes it, I wonder why testosterone is low in the first place. Doesn't seem like a root cause.

I'm very sure the answer for me lies in the microbiome, I think there's some pathogenic bacteria that is hard to get rid of and has damaged the gut lining causing foreign undigested food particles/proteins entering the blood stream, not sure how it directly leads to POIS. Alot/most of the treatments and cures seem to be related to the gut (antibiotics, antifungals, diet etc) and/or treating an inflammatory response (curcumin, anti-histamines, niacin, etc).