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Thought this was interesting
« on: August 22, 2013, 09:22:33 PM »
Perhaps having something to do with POIS?
My POIS managed with Diet (@ diet that 100% manages my pois)Believe my POIS stems from inflammation in the gut. O = neuro POIS from inflammation from the gut

Current supps: microdose of zyrtec and gaia liquid olive leaf extract for sleep. Micro astragalus and 1tsp ev olive oil for energy .


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Re: Thought this was interesting
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 05:05:21 AM »
Perhaps having something to do with POIS?

I would suggest that in regard to POIS, these type of studies offer interesting information from a symptom reduction perspective, and are most helpful for folks whose POIS has not become long term or chronic in nature, with the potential to stall further onset of more severe symptoms.

The data and approaches also potentially could support reduction in the psychological or stress response component in the brain fog and cognitive elements of POIS.

From a purely personal perspective, none of these studies can explain to me, why, (for me), seconds after orgasm (for 3 days), seborhaiec dermatitis skin issues flares up, my sinuses block, and the aforementioned psychological and physical (pain) symptoms are present.

Am into my fourth decade with these experiences and believe me, I have immersed myself in all stress and relaxation response (mind/body/spirit) oriented "cures". But there can't be a cure until someone finds out what is really going on in someone with POIS. I am fascinated to find out what NORD research may show.

Even if it shows that we need to make changes that include diet, lifestyle, mineral supplementation or consider pharmaceutical intervention, I think addressing stress response sits as an import aspect of allowing the body and mind to heal.

PS. I anyone out there in the forum, who also experiences seborrhaiec dermatitis (face/scalp/chest/thighs etc)  that is aggravated by any minute exposure to direct sunlight, I would be curious to hear. I haven't met anyone else who has this photo-aggravated (sun) dermatitis, so I am wondering if it is peculiar to POIS.


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Re: Thought this was interesting
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 07:07:12 PM »
Colm, prior to my POIS treatment, I had intense and "painful" (hard to describe the strange, horrible feeling) dermatitis in all 10 ***fingertips*** for 4 in-POIS days.

Confirmed by a top dermatologist  who was skeptical ("Come back in to my office and PROVE it when when you're in-POIS")... But his treatment (Rx ointment) was...useless.

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10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business


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Re: Thought this was interesting
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 04:52:51 AM »
Appreciate the response very much demo.

Been to many dermatologists over the years, and have got creams and expensive prescription only shampoo that keeps things in control post 3 days from orgasm. However, very uncomfortable for the 3 days.

Very interested to hear that someone else has experienced this. Obviously something going on with immune system that exacerbates the dermatitis. In my experience dermatologists treating symptoms like many general practitioners, rather than resolving anything underlying.


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Re: Thought this was interesting
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2013, 02:48:39 PM »
Hallo Demo,did you mean with ?dermatitis? a clear visible ?something ? on the skin of your fingers  or is it a sensation  somewhere inside?
This last sensation is wellknown to me and it is hard to ignore for me it has nothing to do with pois.
It lasts about 3 or 4 days and is rather irragular.
The phenomenon is wellknown as ?pins and needles, or paraesthesia.


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Re: Thought this was interesting
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 05:53:42 AM »
Here is an interesting article that I came across which explained to me some of the main signs of Auto-Immune conditions.  I thought Auto Immune conditions were similar to an allergy, but now I see it is different. The article discusses getting to the underlying reasons for any Immune reaction in general, which some have been successful in doing.

The explanation seems to tick boxes for symptoms that are shared on this board and nsf.

I can personally tick the box on a number of these symptoms (plus sinus flare-up) below that kick in straight after O, certainly I tick the first 5 listed, as well as number 8.

Number 3 (sun sensitivity and specific rash) on the list is really interesting to me personally, as since my POIS started in my teens, I experience extreme sun exposure sensitivity (even 10 seconds direct exposure to sun on my face) and this butterfly shaped rash described also flares up on O, as does an accompanying scalp dryness and irritation.

This condition was diagnosed for me many years ago by experienced dermatologist as "photo-aggravated seborhaiec dermatitis", which also used to affect my chest and front of thighs badly. So the reaction to O, automatically brings on these symptoms.  I have used creams to control it, and it's ok, except for 3 days after O, when I have discomfort and irritation from it.

The article on Autoimmune diseases is at
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