Strange how I can eat certain breads but not others

[Going less Crazy]

As strange as it sounds I can tolerate cake made from enriched wheat flour but have a reaction from other breads probably containing the same ingredients.  Like I can actually have this one bread this restaurant close to me makes and completely have a reaction to other bread I purchase in the store.  This made me write down that I may not be intolerant to a specific thing such as gluten, but intolerant to certain items or foods.  I'm not sure if it comes down to a single ingredient but find it strange that I can tolerate things that I probably wouldn't be able to tolerate.  Anybody else have a similar story?

[Prancer]

Yes, that's weird. It makes me think about trying something simpler like water and kale for a whole week and seeing what happens. (I know, as gross as that sounds...I'd rather be eating more delicious foods like cake, pizza, ice cream, steak, etc.) So yes, I've noticed that as well.

PS - Do you still have to deal with the acne on your back that you mentioned before (backne)? Because I was thinking that it must be so uncomfortable for you when you lean back against something, so hopefully you were able to get rid of it.

[Macster]

I think it may have to do with carbohydrates. Have you checked how much carbs (sugar or non fibre such as starch). I was feeling something similar. Nowadays I try to eat the least possible carbs in all the food I eat. I recently discovered romano bean bread. It has very little carbs (a little expensive though)

[Going less Crazy]

Lol, that's funny that you're talking about my bacne that I probably posted long ago.  Actually it had cleared up probably 50% since going gluten free corn free plus other grains also sugar free is a plus but I still crave Reese's which I tolerate well.  And actually it wasn't really that uncomfortable just unsightly.  I wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't see it in a mirror or feel it with my hands.

And for an update I ate the rest of the cake and actually did have an immediate reaction... Bone pains and then migraine/brain fog POIS feeling.  I had a big portion so I prob do react to that stuff, maybe not so noticeable in smaller portions but it would be best to avoid it and everything w wheat flour.

Are you on a gf (girlfriend) diet Prancer?

And macster its mainly pastas and breads and corn that bothers me so in that carbohydrate area, though aren't some fruits considered carbs? On my phone and too lazy to look that up... So I believe I have extreme ncgs or non celiac gluten sensitivity.  I rarely get stomach pains from eating those foods so that's why I think it's ncgs... Alot of the symptoms of ncgs relate to POIS symptoms.

http://hypothyroidmom.com/12-shocking-symptoms-of-gluten-sensitivity/

Later guys

[Prancer]

I'm trying the girlfriend diet, but I need some more diet discipline for sticking with it. I feel that I should go several days on the GF diet to see if there's an improvement. It's so hard for me to be extra selective about what I eat for some reason.

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[Going less Crazy]

Yes it is really hard, I'd suggest you try a paleo like diet free of any grains.  Right now I am like 80% I think the brown rice flour might be causing something so I eliminated that and feel really clear in the head.  I can eat potato chips which is good as long as theyre gf.

[Quantum]

I'm trying the girlfriend diet, but I need some more diet discipline for sticking with it. I feel that I should go several days on the GF diet to see if there's an improvement. It's so hard for me to be extra selective about what I eat for some reason.

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Hi Prancer, and GLC,

It is hard at the beginning, I would say, because of acquired taste, like for very sweet food.  But I can say that it has been reversible, in my case.  I am now very fund of all that is healthy, and prefer the more natural and refined taste of healthy food.  For example, I am now very fund of 85% dark chocolate, and while I can still enjoy milk chocolate, I do not enjoy it as much, it is too sweet for me now, and a bit "shallow", and misses the rich flavor of cocoa.   Same thing for other kinds of food as well.  After a year or maybe a couple of years of healthy diet, you will have completely re-programmed your taste.

Also, there is growing evidence that the type of gut flora you have may influence what type of food you crave for ( http://bodyecology.com/articles/food_cravings.php , http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-11-bacteria-gut-affect-cravings-food.html ).  Science slowly discovers that the bacteria in your guts can send messages to the brain that have an effect on your eating behavior, via the nerves of the gut-brain axis, or by producing peptide messengers. So, if you are already working on building a healthier gut flora, with good probiotics and good food, this will also help in the process, and reinforce your appetite for healthy food.

[Going less Crazy]

That's interesting.  Tho for my problem candy doesn't bother me nearly as much as wheat so I literally can eat tons of Reese's which is awesome.  I love Reese's.  The gut flora thing is interesting as well.

I'm vastly improving on this grain free diet and my head is as clear as ever.  I avoid all gluten foods and even similar gf foods such as quinoa and buckwheat since they also give me reactions.  White rice is the only substitute I think I can eat tho I haven't eaten any since going grain free.

I think grain free is the way to go now.  I eat alllllot of mashed potatoes w turkey or steak and it is great.  My head hasn't been this clear since before POIS.

I'm hoping... Probably a long shot... That the diet plus coffee I drank long ago that led into POIS, possibly ruined my small intestines and since than I haven't had the chance to heal correctly... Maybe this all grain free diet will give it the chance to heal thus healing my POIS.  Than maybe I could reintroduce grain foods later.  That'd be pretty cool, but definitely, a long shot.

[pdepauw]

yes i have the following observation:

 "healthy" brown bread results in stinking stool!  With white bread, no problem!


PdP

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[Starsky]

Going less crazy, pls look ar the low thiol diet, it looks like you react to high thiol foods

[Going less Crazy]

I feel like this post is really old and I should delete it.  I do believe I react to all breads and I have a version of celiac and ncgs.  This page should refer to my diet post.  Thats my current plan.

[Quantum]

I feel like this post is really old and I should delete it.  I do believe I react to all breads and I have a version of celiac and ncgs.  This page should refer to my diet post.  Thats my current plan.

You mean, this thread, GLC ?  :  http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2275.msg18450#msg18450

[Going less Crazy]

Yes, lol sorry for late reply