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For those with Both types of Symptoms What Weight would you give Each

80% Cognitive - 20% Flu-Like
60% Cognitive
40% Cognitive
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Daveman

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Detailed Symptoms
« on: April 06, 2011, 06:42:12 AM »
The other poll seems to indicate that we are, in great part, with mixed symptoms. Let's see how that divides out as a percentage.
Select what you feel to be an average percentage over perhaps thelast two years.
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Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
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Vincent M

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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 04:57:58 PM »
I selected 20% cognitive, because for me it seems my main problem is the physical pain symptoms of POIS mostly backache and eyeburning and exhaustion. These things however do also affect my mind in that it is much more difficult to think when I'm in physical pain.
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2011, 09:05:33 PM »
I selected 60% (cog) 40% (flu). I assume extreme exhaustion would be included in flu-like symptoms. That's a big one for me (although I also experience true flu symptoms--body aches etc.)
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My symptoms include: brain fog, depression, physical and mental fatigue, memory problems, social anxiety, concentration problems, myalgia, inflammation.

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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 01:02:44 PM »
You know, I wondered about the extreme exhaustion when it was asked. I think it's a little of both.
On the one hand, if you are walking or doing some sort of exercize, the heart pounds, the chest feels tight, perhpas the muscles hurt.
Yet on the other hand, cognitive exhasution also contributes. You sit down to the computer to take someting on, and you just can't. No interest, no drive, no inspiration. It's a sort of exhaustion as well.

I suffer the physical kind more, but in the two bad sessions I've had where the cognitive symptoms reigned, I felt theother strongly.

It's why I haven't been able to put together the draft wish list for the forum.

Which is coming hopefully later today!

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Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 01:55:02 PM »
I submitted my answer in protest!

It's 30% cognitive, so I was forced into 20%  :)

Exhaustion is my name in POIS. The tricky part is Mental Exhaustion, which could pass for either cognitive or physical.
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 02:06:52 PM »
Speaking of exhaustion, I think some of us give in to POIS too easily. At least I do.

When POIS hits, I "freeze" and do NOTHING - - - as much as possible of nothing!

The other day, I was at Day Zero, and I drove 11 hours and interacted with my son while driving (he asked ME to drive!) and after I dropped him off midway in a surprise hailstorm (!) I....got lost!

I proceeded to drive with my iPhone GPS (dangerous as hell, I will admit), somehow managing to continue to get lost regardless.

By the time I reached a restaurant at night, my anxiety was sky-high, so I proceeded to stupidly and almost unconsciously...BITE my tongue, harder than ever! I was bleeding profusely, my wife AND the restaurant suggested I go to the ER at the hospital nearby.

I decided to tough it out and drive home. Saw the doctor the next day, who said I will heal in 10 days, no infection, but if I had gone to the ER, they would have stitched my tongue.

Now this could have easily happened out-of-POIS.

My main point to you, the reader, is that you CAN do things in POIS, don't give in to The Monster who says, "Die, please, till POIS passes".

If someone told me I would go through all that in Day Zero, I would have said, "No way!"


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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 04:33:27 PM »
Quote from: demografx on April 10, 2011, 02:06:52 PM

........... If someone told me I would go through all that in Day Zero, I would have said, "No way!"


Bite your tongue!!
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Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 05:13:01 AM »
I'm an 80-20 man. There ARE physical symptoms - very dry hair (though not when I take Fenugreek), slight joint pain, but nothing that would particularly bother me compared to the cognitive symptoms
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 10:10:33 AM »
For me, the split is even smaller, 95%-5%.  The flu symptoms are minor and only started happening as I've gotten older than 35.
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 03:34:30 PM »
80% cognitive 20% flu-like.
If I had a physical work or exercice, I have more muscle or joint pains.
But cognitive symptoms are defintly the worst (dream-like felling ).
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2012, 04:11:30 PM »
40% brain fog and 60% exhaustion for me..
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2013, 01:41:38 PM »
I think 100 & cognitive..And the worst symptom of all..Inability in speaking plus inability in creative and deep thinking..Also irritability and lack of self-esteem is quite bad!
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2013, 03:15:06 PM »
40% cognitive, 40% flu-like, 20% inflamation of urinary  tract
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Re: Detailed Symptoms
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2013, 07:14:00 AM »
Definitely mostly cognitive for me: 90% cognitive, 10% moderate to severe fatigue. When my symptoms are at their worst I get a strange sensation of hot wax over the top of my head, which directly corresponds to severe cognitive impairment. I also feel the need to shower for some reason when my worst symptoms come.
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