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Vandemolen

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Re: Official Desensitization plan Begins!
« Reply #375 on: November 07, 2017, 11:21:41 AM »
My doctor worked with dr. Waldinger. So I didn’t have to convince him. Maybe Egordon can anser how he did it. But there are other ways now. With the knowlodge I have today I would take purified cbd oil instead. But that’s not available in every country. And not legal in many countries.
Hello, I'm just curious(Egordon/Vandemolen), how did you convince your doc or specialist to perform Densens? I was living in Savannah, GA and I brought Waldinger's papers to an allergy specialist. He said that he understood the protocol but due to ?ethical reasons" he could not perform the test on me in his practice. He referred me to two other allergist who said the same thing. So I'm at a dead end. Who are your doctor's? I would be willing to relicate. Thanks, Liyyam
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 70% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Official Desensitization plan Begins!
« Reply #376 on: November 18, 2017, 05:47:27 PM »
Want to let you know that today I stopped with desens.  That's because of two reasons: 1. I had desens for 5 years. That's the normal period for desens. I could have gone on. But then the second reason: I will start with a purified CBD oil from Italy. The injections can have an effect on the oil.

I am stil at 70% less symptoms.
It’s been more than a year that I stopped with desens. I hoped that my prostate problems would be less after a few months without desens, but it only get worse. I don’t know if there is a connetion, but my prostate stays imflated even after 3 weeks of antiobiotics and abstince. My main problem now is not POIS but prostate infections.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 70% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

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Re: Official Desensitization plan Begins!
« Reply #377 on: November 18, 2017, 07:27:11 PM »
I have gone through a 5 year long desensitization treatment at the same doctor as Vandemolen. This was quite beneficial for me, I don't recognize other symptoms aside from POIS getting worse from the treatment though (although my POTS symptoms got worse in the third year but stabilized 2 years after it while still in the treatment phase). Desenz is still the best thing against POIS for me personally.

Vandemolen, how do you know your prostate is infected? What test did you use? My second question: Did your prostate symptoms got worse while using the CBD oil?

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Re: Official Desensitization plan Begins!
« Reply #378 on: November 18, 2017, 09:05:21 PM »
I have gone through a 5 year long desensitization treatment at the same doctor as Vandemolen. This was quite beneficial for me, I don't recognize other symptoms aside from POIS getting worse from the treatment though (although my POTS symptoms got worse in the third year but stabilized 2 years after it while still in the treatment phase). Desenz is still the best thing against POIS for me personally.

Vandemolen, how do you know your prostate is infected? What test did you use? My second question: Did your prostate symptoms got worse while using the CBD oil?

Muon
Yes desens was great for me too. 70% less POIS and only 1 day of POIS instead of 4.

Because of the purified cbd oil I had no POIS at all. But I only had this for a month. A few months later the purified cbd oil was availble again. But because I made a mistake and used too much cbd oil I got allergic for cbd oil.

I know my prostate is imflated because it’s a little bit swollen. And my esophagus, my throat and my nose gets dry. And I get overall malaise. My body gets cold and I have shivers.
POIS since 2000. Very bad since 2008. I knew that I have POIS since June 2010. Desensitization since March 2011. I stopped with desens in July 2016. I have 70% less POIS. And only 1 day of POIS. Purified CBD works for me, but I am allergic for CBD.

uhtred sonof

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Re: Official Desensitization plan Begins!
« Reply #379 on: June 06, 2018, 02:19:10 AM »
For those of us without the option to see an allergist, might it possible to enact a kind of desensitization through a controlled schedule of O's? I'm thinking about how people go on elimination diets then slowly reintroduce problem foods with great results.

I also know it's common for POIS sufferers to experience little to no symptoms with an O following a long period of abstinence. These folks might have a strong allergic component to their POIS.

The dose of allergen is high with ejaculation, so perhaps a long period of initial abstinence is required. One could experiment with the length of time required for an asymptomatic O. Abstinence lengths could be reduced carefully, ever so slightly -  while exponentially more healthy O's are reintroduced over time.

Before I knew what POIS was, and when it was really bad, I believe I may have unwittingly done this with some success. I self-diagnosed POIS as a DeltaFosB/dopamine downregulation issue for which the treatment is coincidentally similar, but not good enough. Treating it like a desens protocol would require a lot more care and meticulousness.

But I did go from having guaranteed, full blown, life ruining POIS for 4-5 days, to now a manageable POIS of a few hours-days with a crude abstinence protocol and some methods I picked up from this site.



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Nas

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Re: Official Desensitization plan Begins!
« Reply #380 on: June 06, 2018, 02:44:44 AM »
With my experience there is no such thing as asymptomatic POIS.
Light symptoms, yes, but you'll still feel the symptoms one way or another.