Fungal Infection

[abud]

im sure now its not the fungal infection
it seem my blood pressure drop everytime i eat, i've had this long before pois and it alawys get worse after orgasm also im not anemic
also supplement that help the flow of blood seem to help with the symptoms such as ginkgo, im trying now organic dark chocolate which gives me immediate relief but sadly it doesn't last that long before the symptoms appear again,
maybe the fungal infection caused by bad blood flow?

[over it]

Around the begining of my POIS symptoms (about ten years ago) I got a fungal infection around my balls & inner thigh. It went away with antifungal cream. Years later I got a fungal rash type thing on my shoulders from a fungus that falls from scalp onto shoulders. Treating this rash with a antifungal foaming solution seems to work  but it seems to always come back. I recently used this foaming solution at the same time I started taking an antibiotic Doxycycline and experienced the greatest reduction in my POIS I have ever experienced to the point I thought I had overcome it. I have a reddish face that gets alot worse with alcohol consumption and physical exertion. Maybe I have this gene mutation. Has anyone had themselves tested for such a mutation? By the way this forum is riduculously hard to follow.

[kurtosis]

Around the begining of my POIS symptoms (about ten years ago) I got a fungal infection around my balls & inner thigh. It went away with antifungal cream. Years later I got a fungal rash type thing on my shoulders from a fungus that falls from scalp onto shoulders. Treating this rash with a antifungal foaming solution seems to work  but it seems to always come back. I recently used this foaming solution at the same time I started taking an antibiotic Doxycycline and experienced the greatest reduction in my POIS I have ever experienced to the point I thought I had overcome it. I have a reddish face that gets alot worse with alcohol consumption and physical exertion. Maybe I have this gene mutation. Has anyone had themselves tested for such a mutation? By the way this forum is riduculously hard to follow.

Waiting for genetic tests to be done. Sent off the sample last week.

[Ccconfucius]

Around the begining of my POIS symptoms (about ten years ago) I got a fungal infection around my balls & inner thigh. It went away with antifungal cream. Years later I got a fungal rash type thing on my shoulders from a fungus that falls from scalp onto shoulders. Treating this rash with a antifungal foaming solution seems to work  but it seems to always come back. I recently used this foaming solution at the same time I started taking an antibiotic Doxycycline and experienced the greatest reduction in my POIS I have ever experienced to the point I thought I had overcome it. I have a reddish face that gets alot worse with alcohol consumption and physical exertion. Maybe I have this gene mutation. Has anyone had themselves tested for such a mutation? By the way this forum is riduculously hard to follow.

Waiting for genetic tests to be done. Sent off the sample last week.

nice

[mat780]

By the way this forum is riduculously hard to follow.

Over it, you can subscribe to the RSS feed so you can receive all the latest posts.

Take a look at the following link where it is explained by Daveman.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=426.msg4833;topicseen#msg4833

Regards,
Mat

[over it]

This from a wiki search on depersonalization disorder & brain fog:

Etiologies: The list of possible etiologies is said to be "endless".[3] The hyperactive presentation is associated with substance withdrawal or intoxication whereas the hypoactive presentation is associated with recent surgery, being in the intensive care unit, or having a terminal illness.[26] The chronic presentation is associated with disseminated cancer, end-stage liver disease, exhaustion, malnutrition, and wasting whereas the acute presentation is associated with fever.[24][25] In alternative medicine, the disease concept known variously as candida-related complex, the yeast syndrome, or candidiasis is said to cause "brain fog".[43][44] Conventional medicine labels this as quackery.[45] On the other hand, the disease concept candidiasis in conventional medicine is known to be associated with clouding of consciousness.[46] The autointoxication disease concept in alternative medicine where intestinal faecal toxins from faecal stagnation poison the brain has long been said to cause clouding of consciousness.[47][48] Conventional medicine also labels this as quackery.[49] On the other hand, conventional medicine recognizes that intestinal faecal toxins can poison the brain and cause a reduced level or "clouding" of consciousness if the liver fails to detoxify it[50][51] and that faecal impaction and urinary retention can cause clouding of consciousness.[52] Alternative doctors describe allergic responses to certain chemicals such as caffeine or mercury as a cause of clouding of consciousness or brain fog respectively.[53][54] Some skeptics of alternative medicine say that "allergic responses do not include "'brain fog'".[54] Ironically, conventional medicine recognizes that allergic responses in general can cause clouding of consciousness, which is of course also known as "mental fog".[55] Conventional medicine recognizes that intestinal tapeworms can cause clouding of consciousness as well.[56]

By the way, thanks Mat.

[Daveman]

"Over it",

There are 301 things that cause brain fog. But for 6 yrs or more, we have pursued potential etiologies for POIS as being caused by just about all of them.

I appreciate your "thinking outside the box approach", but after 6 yrs or so, there is nothing left that is outside the box, and we still don't have a cure OR certain etiology.

That's why we are pursuing formal investigation. If I had my way, we would do nothing more than raise funds for the research.

We are very close. Just one last little bit to reach out goal.

Reaching down and pulling out that donation for the last few yards is worth 100 times a bright idea.

We don't know enough to solve this ourselves.

[Stef]

im sure now its not the fungal infection
it seem my blood pressure drop everytime i eat, i've had this long before pois and it alawys get worse after orgasm also im not anemic
also supplement that help the flow of blood seem to help with the symptoms such as ginkgo, im trying now organic dark chocolate which gives me immediate relief but sadly it doesn't last that long before the symptoms appear again,
maybe the fungal infection caused by bad blood flow?

Hi Abud and All,

There is a rare condition that causes people's blood pressure to drop after eating -- sometimes to the point of fainting.

There's a GREAT organization that's focused on this and other related conditions. There's a branch of the org in the US and the UK --

STARS USA (Syncopy Trust and Anoxic Seizures, USA) -- http://www.stars-us.org/
(This link leads to a story of a nurse who has this condition -- and lives in my hometown! -- http://www.stars-us.org/case-studies/stories/marthas-story.html)

STARS UK (Syncopy Trust and Anoxic Seizures, UK) http://www.stars.org.uk/.

I have no idea, obviously, if any of this pertains to you or to POIS -- just thought you or others might want to know about the org -- they've got some very good information, including about POTS -- a condition that's been mentioned on this forum previously.

Stef

[abud]

thank you so much nordnurse for link

and i would like say that i cured my blood pressure drop after eating by wearing abdominal binder! which i've read it compress large blood vessels in the abdomen to help maintain blood pressure.

does anyone else have troubles with blood pressure?

[poisioq]

i do have low pressure. maybe i will try that. thanks

[over it]

I have been able to 're-create' the 90% POIS relief I experienced for 3-4 days after taking a course of antibiotics a few months ago. The cause of this relief was not the antibiotics at all, it was the anti-fungal foaming solution "Peveryl" that I used at the exact same time as I began the antibiotics. I was perscribed this medication after presenting with a red blotchy rash on my shoulders, neck, chest & upper back. I should note that I have used this product about 6 times in the last 5 years but have only realy noticed large improvement the last 2 uses. A reason for this may be because the last two times I have applied it to my entire body, not just head & shoulders. I should also note that around the beggining of my POIS symptoms (10 years ago) I had a rash around the inner thigh & testicals & successfully treated it with anti-fungal cream.
Pevaryl is available in chemists without prescription here in Australia. Apparently there is an oral anti-fungal that can be used in lieu of the foaming solution but is available by perscriptiion which I'm keen to try.
The relief I'm experiencing is so obvious that it cannot be a placebo.
Would be great if someone else can try this to verify results.   

[kurtosis]

Have a look at Itraconazole http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/092318119390072W
There are new oral anti-fungals which are good for treating systemic fungal infections.

[kurtosis]

Have a look at Itraconazole http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/092318119390072W
There are new oral anti-fungals which are good for treating systemic fungal infections.

While you're at it notice that Neem and Olive Leaf are listed as anti-fungals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifungal_medication
I'm not saying that POIS is a fungal infection, just that it seems that some POIS sufferers appear to have bad fungal infections, me included.

[Daveman]

Have a look at Itraconazole http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/092318119390072W
There are new oral anti-fungals which are good for treating systemic fungal infections.

While you're at it notice that Neem and Olive Leaf are listed as anti-fungals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifungal_medication
I'm not saying that POIS is a fungal infection, just that it seems that some POIS sufferers appear to have bad fungal infections, me included.

And/or, I was wondering if fungal infections could aggravate or wake up the POIS reactions.

[Ccconfucius]

I also  just realized i have fungal effections on my stomach.  I used some anti fungal pill dr prescribed and it cleared up the fungus and reduce the white coating on my tongue.  I now use anti dandruff shampoo to keep the fungus away.
so maybe there is something with this fungus stuff.
anyone know how prevalent fungal infection is in the general population.

[over it]

I have been able to 're-create' the 90% POIS relief I experienced for 3-4 days after taking a course of antibiotics a few months ago. The cause of this relief was not the antibiotics at all, it was the anti-fungal foaming solution "Peveryl" that I used at the exact same time as I began the antibiotics. I was perscribed this medication after presenting with a red blotchy rash on my shoulders, neck, chest & upper back. I should note that I have used this product about 6 times in the last 5 years but have only realy noticed large improvement the last 2 uses. A reason for this may be because the last two times I have applied it to my entire body, not just head & shoulders. I should also note that around the beggining of my POIS symptoms (10 years ago) I had a rash around the inner thigh & testicals & successfully treated it with anti-fungal cream.
Pevaryl is available in chemists without prescription here in Australia. Apparently there is an oral anti-fungal that can be used in lieu of the foaming solution but is available by perscriptiion which I'm keen to try.
The relief I'm experiencing is so obvious that it cannot be a placebo.
Would be great if someone else can try this to verify results.   

Went to see a the doc today & he seems to think that there is no possible scientific explaination as to how the Peveryl alleviates my symptoms almost entirely. He still believes it is depression. I stopped the Lovan & stopped the Zoloft; they both did nothing for me. He also said that only people with AIDS and people that are really sick already can get internal fungal infections & that I would be on deaths door in a hospital bed if I had an internal fungal infection. He also refused to prescribe me an oral antifungal because they can be potentially fatal due to liver complications (1 in 10,000 death rate). The only other thing i can think of is that it was the physical action of trying to apply the foaming solution to my back that gives me very satisfying relief. Or maybe they put heroin in the Peveryl. I refuse to believe it is placebo effect as I have been medicated with everything under the sun & the only thing that seems to bring relief is Peveryl & Vit B complex (however the efficacy of the B complex seems to diminish with prolonged use). The peveryl takes way my joint pain, stops my eyes from burning, eliminates brain fog, enables me to orgasm without consequince, makes me sit & stand taller, balances my pelvises so I feel level & strong when standing & walking, helps me sleep deeply & have vivid dreams, I wake up fresh(er),  I have less gas & bloating, more sociable, less anxiety, improved mobilty in neck, spine & pelvis, less fatigue especialy after eating. Maybe it's a magic potion. I would love to arrange a double-blind test.

[kurtosis]

I have been able to 're-create' the 90% POIS relief I experienced for 3-4 days after taking a course of antibiotics a few months ago. The cause of this relief was not the antibiotics at all, it was the anti-fungal foaming solution "Peveryl" that I used at the exact same time as I began the antibiotics. I was perscribed this medication after presenting with a red blotchy rash on my shoulders, neck, chest & upper back. I should note that I have used this product about 6 times in the last 5 years but have only realy noticed large improvement the last 2 uses. A reason for this may be because the last two times I have applied it to my entire body, not just head & shoulders. I should also note that around the beggining of my POIS symptoms (10 years ago) I had a rash around the inner thigh & testicals & successfully treated it with anti-fungal cream.
Pevaryl is available in chemists without prescription here in Australia. Apparently there is an oral anti-fungal that can be used in lieu of the foaming solution but is available by perscriptiion which I'm keen to try.
The relief I'm experiencing is so obvious that it cannot be a placebo.
Would be great if someone else can try this to verify results.   

Went to see a the doc today & he seems to think that there is no possible scientific explaination as to how the Peveryl alleviates my symptoms almost entirely. He still believes it is depression. I stopped the Lovan & stopped the Zoloft; they both did nothing for me. He also said that only people with AIDS and people that are really sick already can get internal fungal infections & that I would be on deaths door in a hospital bed if I had an internal fungal infection. He also refused to prescribe me an oral antifungal because they can be potentially fatal due to liver complications (1 in 10,000 death rate). The only other thing i can think of is that it was the physical action of trying to apply the foaming solution to my back that gives me very satisfying relief. Or maybe they put heroin in the Peveryl. I refuse to believe it is placebo effect as I have been medicated with everything under the sun & the only thing that seems to bring relief is Peveryl & Vit B complex (however the efficacy of the B complex seems to diminish with prolonged use). The peveryl takes way my joint pain, stops my eyes from burning, eliminates brain fog, enables me to orgasm without consequince, makes me sit & stand taller, balances my pelvises so I feel level & strong when standing & walking, helps me sleep deeply & have vivid dreams, I wake up fresh(er),  I have less gas & bloating, more sociable, less anxiety, improved mobilty in neck, spine & pelvis, less fatigue especialy after eating. Maybe it's a magic potion. I would love to arrange a double-blind test.

I love the way doctors say there's no possible scientific explanation for X.
It's funny because it's such an arrogant statement. If you'd asked people in the 1800s could the atom be split and used to create bombs or fuel, they would have thought it was nonsense. Pure fiction but they would have been wrong. For instance, scientists in NASA are now working on an existence proof for "warp" drives. Once something is shown to be possible in even its simplest form then it provides an incentive to build a working prototype.

I've posted material about this before but there's a connection between fungal infections and methylation.
It's described here http://mthfr.net/methylation-inhibited-by-candidas-toxin/2012/09/08/
The primary reason is acetaldehyde impairing the action of methionine synthase. I originally thought that we may have the acetaldehyde enzyme mutation (maybe some POIS sufferers do but I don't).
The thinking was outlined a post a few months back. If someone gets a chronic fungal infection they may show signs of methylation impairment due to increased acetaldehyde. Someone with ALDH impairment may have this. If someone has a serious methylation problem they may not be able to fight a normal fungal infection properly which may become chronic which may reduce their methylation further due to acetaldehyde buildup. and so on...

Have a look at this anti-fungal. It seems to be better than the standard ones like Diflucan for treating systemic fungal infections and "there's no evidence it's metabolized by the liver".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anidulafungin

[Daveman]

Sorry about your doctor "over it". Some doctors just like to play it safe. Treat common colds, that kind of stuff.

As with all things, we usually have to get second or third opinions.

Here it's fairly common, to prescribe oral treatment for deep fungal infections. Whether they are internal or not I couldn't say, but a simple check of the exterior and general patient history will tell if it's more than a passing fungal infection.

Probably not THE cause of POIS but is likely a contributing factor.

I find that in general POIS makes a lot of inflammatory situations worse, things you might not otherwise know you have or that don't otherwise bother you become flared with POIS.