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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2011, 04:12:46 PM »
eat the same meal for a day and do a periodic sugar test all day.   Also look at what your blood sugar will be like two hours after the meal to get the basline.
When you are doing pois test, eat same meal, do sugar test two hours after the meal compare to previous test and then do sugar test after pois ( interval of like 15 min for like three hours).  I hope that makes sense.

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2011, 04:53:40 PM »
Makes sense.  I think the only problem would be that my sugar levels are affected by stress, which can vary from day to day.  I'll have to figure out how to make a test that accounts for that.

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2011, 03:42:50 PM »
I asked my mom what Indian foods she makes using methi.  She basically said most of them.  This explains an unusual characteristic of my mom's food to help my symptoms.  Basically, her food has fenugreek in it, lots of it.

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2011, 03:59:17 AM »
I have found another clue and this just begins to make sense. demografx said that his testosterone replacement therapy is working for him reducing 80% of his POIS symptoms.

Garlic supplementation in rats, along with a high protein diet, has been shown to boost testosterone levels.[53]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garlic

•Garlic is one of the the best natural ways to raise testosterone levels because it contains a strong compound called allicin that can increase the levels of testosterone hormone. Allicin breaks down easily, so make sure you eat real garlic -- don't take supplements which often don't have any active allicin left.
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The intake of vegetables regularly will never make you prone to the low testosterone levels. Spinach is specifically very good to boost the testosterone levels in the body.Read more: http://www.articlesbase.com/mens-health-articles/food-to-improve-testosterone-levels-in-men-859881.html#ixzz1PtnxcZ4S
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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2011, 04:03:39 AM »
News article from just yesterday!!!:

Fenugreek has a storied past. New Yorkers complained of a strange maple syrup aroma in the air for years before realizing it was fenugreek. Some people believe the spice increases milk production, while others say it relieves arthritis or cures fever. Its name means: “ram's horn clover.”

Now, compounds called saponins inside the fenugreek seed are believed to stimulate production of male sex hormones, including testosterone.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/fenugreek-can-increase-male-libido/2011/06/20/AGOxpqcH_blog.html

Goji Berries

In Asia, goji berries are known as a strong sexual tonic. They increase testosterone levels, which stimulates libido in both men and women. Furthermore, they improve overall stamina, mood and wellbeing, all of which are vital for an optimum sex life.

http://www.naturalnews.com/022992.html
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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2011, 07:55:55 AM »
I doubt that fenugreek increases testosterone levels since it decreases my sex drive a significant amount and also seems to decrease my desire to exercise and ability to gain muscle. However at the same time it still makes my POIS symptoms improve quite a lot. I think it has to do mostly with an inflammation reducing effect.
Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2011, 10:46:28 AM »
I doubt that fenugreek increases testosterone levels since it decreases my sex drive a significant amount and also seems to decrease my desire to exercise and ability to gain muscle. However at the same time it still makes my POIS symptoms improve quite a lot. I think it has to do mostly with an inflammation reducing effect.
All of our bodies are different, so each of us will react differently to the various treatments out there.  Just keep experimenting to find what really works well for you. :)

I'm kinda lucky as garlic and spinach really work well for me.  And that Kashi's Chicken Florentine frozen meal has garlic, spinach, and protein all in one simple meal.  Two or three of these meals speed my recovery by more than 50%.

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2011, 11:32:23 AM »
I used Fenugreek for about 1 week, i dont know how but it increases the semen volume. It cannot be good for POIS

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2011, 06:39:29 PM »
I used Fenugreek for about 1 week, i dont know how but it increases the semen volume. It cannot be good for POIS

I certainly noticed the same thing , but on the other hand it continues to work after/before O. If you have an O. 1-2 hours after taking fenugreek, you are not going to sense POIS(At least in my case), and the POIS will be greatly reduced the next 24-48 hours if you eat a good diet to get rid of the residual symptoms plus more fenugreek or goji berries. This is having good results on me(more than 3 months now taking fenugreek!).

I don´t believe that increasing the semen volume could be bad for POIS. From what i´ve read, the regeneration theory could provide some explanation!

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2011, 08:03:50 AM »
I think it could relate to the allergy theory too, bigger semen load could mean lower allergen concentration.

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2011, 01:30:49 AM »
I used Fenugreek for about 1 week, i dont know how but it increases the semen volume. It cannot be good for POIS

Strange, if anything it reduces my semen volume.
Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2011, 09:26:34 AM »
Guys pls help me I am feeling too much weak ??? what should I do its been 10 days of my O , pls guide me for energy I have stop now , I will not do O any more not even small sex thing , I have stop complete porn watching so guys I want a second chance pls guide me ,

One more thing why I am urinating and sweating a lot , have blur vision , is this diabetes , pls guide me , took meds for diabetics for high blood sugar for 10 days but did not help me …. So I have stop and I feel the same or bit better , but my blood sugar comes at random is 250 + , but when I left meds of diabetics I stop measuring it …..

KINDLY GUIDE ME I WANT A SECOND CHANCE !!!!!!!!!!!
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2011, 11:35:45 PM »
I've found fenugreek is quite effective.  Maybe because it's traditionally used in Indian cooking and my parents are Indian, but it's the most effective thing I've found.  Combining it with the other things that work like zinc, spinach, garlic, fish oil, and krill oil, I can recover much quicker than ever before.

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2011, 09:45:41 AM »
okay samir bhai i got ur point ...........
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2011, 07:14:49 PM »
i am using feenugreek crushed leaves and mashed seeds .......
i take it before sleep .....a at day time .....
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2011, 01:45:00 AM »
Glycemia and post-prandial inflammation are linked that's why I agree with Vincent Marcus and Sameer.
I agree but maybe it's not post-prandal inflammation.  Maybe the synthesis of insulin itself is causing a competition with hormones or neurotransmitters involved in Pois.
Maybe a competition between insuline and testosterone.
The axoim is more insuline = more pois.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2012, 02:25:29 AM by b_jim »
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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2012, 09:03:10 PM »




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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2014, 06:17:36 AM »
Well, i was feeling with some serious brain fog yesterday (only less than 36 hours After O.) and i ate spinachs. Never done that before, because i didn´t like spinachs(the spinachs tasted good!), and my brain fog cleared. The effect has lasted more than fenugreek or garlic, because today i ate some sweet foods, but the brain fog didn´t come as hard as before and it was perfectly tolerable.
I noticed a great reduction of symptoms, so i suggest you to eat more spinachs!!

HI , how did you eat spinach did u have raw ???
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2014, 06:25:20 AM »
POIS is greatly reduced in my case with a good diet plus fenugreek PRIOR to Orgasm.

It´s more effective to prevent the auto-immune cascade than to fight against it when it´s developing. This is my conclusion.

I am having sexual intercourse but not with O. every time. Maybe one O. every 3 days(or 2 sometimes). My partner knows whats happens to me after every O. and i have decided to have O. only after i have taken fenugreek and she knows about it.

The last time(yesterday) i ate spinachs + sweet potatoes plus 2 fenugreek capsules before O., and POIS has been reduced in severity and duration. The bad old days of crazy brainfog and a tortured mind are gone. I feel remains of POIS, maybe between 10-20% of what it was, and its duration has been reduced to 24 hours (or less) to 36 hours. Sometimes POIS is more harder, like it was used to, but i can hit back with more weapons. I think that the sunny days are helping, but this is not the decisive factor(today there has been cloudy and POIS is 10-20%).



this gives a great hope i will also try feenu greek before sex ...... should i also take after ??????
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: The reason why Fenugreek, Garlic, berries, Spinachs work in POIS
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2014, 07:02:25 AM »
You know, this makes some sense, and it could connect with something I've noticed with past O's.  Very shortly after an O, my stomach starts making gurgling sounds.  So perhaps there is some chain effect that ends up effecting the stomach--and then perhaps that stomach-issue could be a cause of the major debilitating effects of POIS.  Just a theory...

Have other people experienced the stomach-gurgling just after O?

i also have the stomach problem , Esp GAS !!!
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AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK